How good are Draggin Jeans?

[carver]

For all of those riders out there who ride with Draggin Jeans on and have had a minor accident on their bike while wearing them, I am wanting to know how well do they hold up?
And are they worth spending the money on, or are you better of spending a bit more towards a new set of Leathers?

if your looking for protection, i can show you a brand i trust, its good when riding

[gatch]

Draggin Jeans speel...

"Minx - Women's

Trouble finding great fitting jeans?

New Minx Jeans by Draggin Jeans are the answer!

Using stretch denim for comfort, they have an amazing fit, look sassy and with military-grade knitted Kevlar UNOBTAINIUM lining, they provide safety when riding your bike.

Ride safe in cool style and comfort."

UNOBTAINIUM, are you fuckin kidding me, I certainly hope they are taking the piss..

[Elysium]

if your looking for protection, i can show you a brand i trust, its good when riding

This the brand?

[carver]

This the brand?

actually, its this one

durex is shit

[discotex]

Contrary to Hitcher's opinion it's well known that armour in leather does prevent injury. Perhaps not a bone crunching impact such as hitting a wall at 100km/h but hitting a curb or stone etc while sliding can do a lot of damage to elbows, knees or shoulders.

captain_andrey's knee would be looking a lot better had be been wearing decent leathers rather than draggins.

As Quasi already said. Look at what racers wear and watch how they crash and make your own judgment call.

EDIT: That said for commuting I take a calculated risk and wear jeans or kevlar jeans. Open road it's the full kit though.

[Hitcher]

Contrary to Hitcher's opinion it's well known that armour in leather does prevent injury.

Contrary to being misquoted, Hitcher said that armour doesn't stop bones breaking.

If leather trousers weren't so hot in summer, so damned cold in winter, and so darned hard to get your wanger out of when nature calls, then Hitcher may be more inclined to wear them.

[discotex]

Contrary to being misquoted, Hitcher said that armour doesn't stop bones breaking.

If leather trousers weren't so hot in summer, so damned cold in winter, and so darned hard to get your wanger out of when nature calls, then Hitcher may be more inclined to wear them.

Yeah you did say that and I did twist your words (as the undertone was "armour is worthless"). I wondered if you'd notice. You got me

But seriously I'd contend armour does prevent broken bones. Especially collar bone, shoulder, elbow. It's highly likely my shoulder wouldn't have broken if I was wearing MX armour when I broke it mountainbiking.

And yeah it can be a pain for a trip to the shops or the ride to work. But for a weekend fang is it really that much hassle? Even putting some Knox armour in your Draggins has to be better than nothing right?

[Hitcher]

But seriously I'd contend armour does prevent broken bones. Especially collar bone

The armour in my jacket didn't stop me breaking my collarbone when I went down the road in Bulls on Boxing Day of 2006.

If people want to wear armour, good on them. I just wish that people would stop slagging Draggin jeans out of ignorance or prejudice when they have saved the skin of many people (me included, twice) on many occasions.

[discotex]

The armour in my jacket didn't stop me breaking my collarbone when I went down the road in Bulls on Boxing Day of 2006.

Umm I'm not contending armour prevents *all* broken bones. But if it reduces the rate of deceleration then there will be less breaks as a result. Totally depends on the crash though.

It's kinda like saying all helmets are pointless because some people still die of head injuries.

If people want to wear armour, good on them. I just wish that people would stop slagging Draggin jeans out of ignorance or prejudice when they have saved the skin of many people (me included, twice) on many occasions.

They're not a waste of time as they will help prevent abrasion. As will normal jeans to a lesser extent.

They're just not as good as fully armoured leather. It's a personal call how much risk you're up for and somewhat depends on your riding style. Like I said I wear them to work for the convenience. Would never wear them on the open road unless I rode like a nana.

[Bob]

The common complaint that I've heard against Draggin Jeans is that the kevlar doesn't go far enough down the legs - it covers major impact areas, but leaves other parts to rely on the denim alone (and denim will hold up against abrasion for, oh, about half a second).

I ride in kevlar lined trousers all the time - heavy denim ones in Winter and a poly/cotton blend trouser in Summer. Mine come from a UK company called Hood.

Hood has their kevlar line the entire inside of the jean, right the way down to where they meet your boots. Important point: Hood call the stuff they use "Aramid" - this is kevlar, but without the use of the name (use the name Kevlar and pay money to Du Pont for the privilege, which bumps up the cost of the jeans)

Hood K7 jeans review here

Hood H2 trousers review here

I've seen an abrasion test that Hood put together. They filled a pair of their jeans with off-cuts of kevlar, to simulate the weight of a rider. They then hauled them along the road for a 1/4 mile, to simulate a rider sliding down the road. The denim burnt through, but the kevlar remained intact.

As Hitcher was intimating, Kevlar lined jeans will protect against abrasion, not impact. Armour is where you get impact protection. The Hood jeans can have armour added (Hood use the Knox armour that James Deuce was praising), I think the Draggin ones can as well.

Hope some of this assists.

[Gremlin]

I've actually come off in both... so could probably offer insight

As Bob has said, the armour in leather will assist with impact protection. Came off in the slippery wet at 70kph in leather, in a corner, didn't even slide off the road. No scratches, slight bruising, nothing major. Leather pants were scraped on the hip, knee reasonably heavily scuffed. Glad it was the armour having the first meeting, and not my knee.

Aquaplaned at 90kph and was turfed off the bike on the high side on a straight, but super slippery. Slid for bloody ages in draggin brand jeans and cordura jacket. Landed on front, then rotated and slid on back head first for vast majority of distance. Draggins were barely scratched, can't even tell which of the two pairs it was, but it was exceptionally slippery. However, I did have pretty decent bruising on the hip and bruised several ribs well enough that movement was annoying for a week.

If you have the choice, leather all the way. Better protection against abrasion like coarse chip on a dry day, and impact protection for the initial landing (its always a bit bumpy)

I still wear all three, leather, cordura and draggins, for varied times and reasons...

That said, brand and quality mean a hell of a lot. I saw someone crash at the track, could have been spool leathers? (dpex if I remember rightly) in a low side into the first corner. Leathers didn't hold up well at all, splitting along several seams...

[Duke girl]

Thanks guys for your feed back on Draggin Jeans but I have another question for you all, and that is do any of you know what sort of test they put them thru before having the Approved Standard Mark on them before they are put on the market to be sold?

[Pussy]

Thanks guys for your feed back on Draggin Jeans but I have another question for you all, and that is do any of you know what sort of test they put them thru before having the Approved Standard Mark on them before they are put on the market to be sold?

Quasi is your man for that question, Duke Girl

[Mom]

Anybody who says otherwise probably thinks that armour defies gravity and that flouro vests save lives.

Saw a guy last weekend who definately believes fluro is the way to go. Only gear he was wearing was a helemt and his trusty fluro vest. Shorts, t-shirt and sneakers completed the ensemble. Reckon the fluro was extra special as it must be able to protect pillions who dont have one, who also wear the bare arms and legs look for comfort and coolness.

[awayatc]

Everything has been well covered, and unarguably leathers come out tops.....

I got som Technic kevlar jeans for $150 at e-moto in ChCh, and they fit me realy well, and are very comfy.
How well they would do in an off I will probably never find out.....but I do know that I wear them when I normally wouldn't bother to wear leather pants...
It has got to be better to wear kevlar jeans then normal jeans.....