What would you ask MNZ for?

[Grey Beard]

A clear accurate and total picture set of accounts from the Office at the AGM

Not saying theres anything underhand going on but in the format presented who would know?
An explaination as to why we need all these office staff or is it to satisfy the major membership sparc thinks we have

or maybe as a rider and mother of 3 other riders is there a point when all of us who belong to MNZ say Huntly there really is a problem and what is our duly elected Board doing except crisis management

As a rider i really fail to understand why so little is being done for riders and why so much money is being spent propping up an overstaffed and under acheiving office
Lets be honest here it doesnt matter how hard you work if your systems are
inefficent

So this family wants change at MNZ, I would ask MNZ What is the board going to do to improve the way the paid employees are alienating the Industry, the clubs and us the riders

Well Put, Suzuki Mama.

It appears the MNZ Office personal work hard but not smart.

Maybe Paul P should spend less time trying to do the different Commissioner's jobs and spend more time managing the Office, that way more could be achieved

[FROSTY:Me]

Careful what you are suggesting.
There are probably 400- 500 Road Races and 4000 - 5000 Off- Road races (MX- Enduro- etc).

Im hearing you but say at 100 bucks a licence thats $50000 --the question is are we getting that value from MNZ?
Also how many of the enduro guys actually have licences?
Thats another question. How much money is coming in and wheres it going?

[Grey Beard]

Everybody riding Enduros must have a license, it is the guys just trail riding that don't contribute and probably cause the most concern with accidents etc.

I was told a story recently about a trail ride in the Central North Is, which had 1500 competitors but there were also 12 plus collarbones broken.

ACC would have been better off paying the Organisers $10K not to run the event.

Also most "Track Days" have someone carted off in an ambulance.

It is only a matter of time before "Big Brother" (i.e. ACC and the like) start clamping down and then where will we be.

Rising Hard on the roads, dicing with Asian drivers and "Cheesegraters"

Sorry one of my pet subjects:

Back on Thread:

Maybe we should be asking MNZ to look into this before it kicks us all in the arse

[Grey Beard]

Sorry Frosty, missed your main point.

$50,000 are we getting value?

Last year, through the good offices of the CEO and the Board, the Castrol Power 1 Superbike Championships got no direct funding apart from what was already budgeted for through Stewarding etc. Well that is how I understand it.

So the answers is probably NO.

The CEO seems happy to send our money travelling the country, but exactly what is being achieved is questionable.

In Fact does the President and the Board actually ask any questions of our highly paid and travelled EMPLOYEES?????

[scrivy]

In Fact does the President and the Board actually ask any questions of our highly paid and travelled EMPLOYEES?????

And there in lies the problem with MNZ. People may bitch about P.P., but the board are sitting on the sidelines, when they should be instrumental in providing a suitable outcome and direction.
If any other business had board members doing nothing, they would fail outright.

[FROSTY:Me]

Also most "Track Days" have someone carted off in an ambulance.
It is only a matter of time before "Big Brother" (i.e. ACC and the like) start clamping down and then where will we be.

Sorry to quote you perhaps out of context here here mate (its a pet subject of mine) I've been to and run a fair few track days and for that matter open test days. On only ONE occasion was anyone actually taken away at a track day Ive been involved in personally. I think thats bloody good going concidering each event had about 100 attendees. Incidently (not in any way having a go at the person concerned) the chap that did damage himself was a Race rider using the track day as practice for an event coming up.
Im only aware of a total of 5 injury accidents at any track day in the past 5 years.
Im of the belief that anyone wanting to give racing a go should actually attend at least one propperly run track day before venturing out at a full on meeting.

Edit-for GB As a trackday organiser I run an incident log basicly listing all the things that went wrong during the day. just checked back and over last 7 rackdays we used the ambo a total of 6 times -4 of them precautionary only so rider rode back 1 was a minor concussion and one resulted in broken collar bone -again that person was a race rider

[Grey Beard]

No Frosty, you haven't taken it out of context.

Obviously, my source of Information is now questionable.

If there has only been 5 accidents in 5 years, that is far better than the National RR Champs.

I will ask my source to clarify their info.

However my Point still stands, Accident statistics is something MNZ could be looking into for us.

The info on their site is dated 2005

[Ivan]

my recent dealings with the board have not been good but Im going to open something up I normally keep out of these issues

But 5 months Ago Me, Steve Bron + Dennis Simmonson, and Vicky all broke New Zealand land speed records payed our money lodged our forms everything MNZ gaveus the all O.K saying everything was fine and we would be given our records. Still no word have rung them numerous times over the past 5 months been told its awaiting the board to meet to Radacate the Records.

In my opinion its sorry for language Fucken Bullshit we are being cocked around Im atwits end now I spent over 500 bucks that day alone to ride that event broke the records felt proud but am not satisfied that the records still havent been classified as "Official"

So my thing is I would ask MNZ to pull Finger out there arse and actually do what they are there to do.

[The Chow]

Well you know what nothing surprises me.

Anyway lets bring on some change in direction , the President and Board need to bring the paid employees in to line. The office is famous for delays.

Remember to vote for change in leadership Vote JT for president in the upcoming elections.

Change may even see the situation we find our selves at the moment regarding road racing improve. We need change now!

Speakin to Paul Stewart today , (and remember he is still commissioner until the end of may) , and he said he has had very positive comments about the proposed class changes.(see MNZ website) Shows you a guy who is still giving 100% even though he won't be the commissioner after May. Can we afford to loose such a person?

[FROSTY:Me]

Incidently I would like to see a clear second step for the young racers that guys like oyster,billy and Aj turbo are training up though the 150ss series.
Theres an old phrase in selling --it says lets "Feed the funnel"
In essence we start with 1000 riders and by the end we might have 50 world classers.
After 150ss theres no clear next step for them to progress to

[scott411]

I would ask for the major race series (the mx nat series and the RR nats series) to have seperate organisers(or even better promotors), i mean not leave it to the comissioners, i do think the job is that important to run those series well that it should not be combined with other jobs

[steveyb]

Incidently I would like to see a clear second step for the young racers that guys like oyster,billy and Aj turbo are training up though the 150ss series.
Theres an old phrase in selling --it says lets "Feed the funnel"
In essence we start with 1000 riders and by the end we might have 50 world classers.
After 150ss theres no clear next step for them to progress to

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[Kevin G]

www.motoacademy.co.nz

125 GP is the next logical progression from street stock. This is a class where you can hone the racecraft skills learnt in streetstock and also learn about chassis set up. This class has produced some of the best (closest) racing of the last few seasons, bikes are cheap (in comparison) and plentiful.

[Ivan]

125 GP is the next logical progression from street stock. This is a class where you can hone the racecraft skills learnt in streetstock and also learn about chassis set up. This class has produced some of the best (closest) racing of the last few seasons, bikes are cheap (in comparison) and plentiful.

I agree 125 really helped me in my step up from 150's into something I mean the power issue slightly richen it up at first for a few rides and then start going leaner i found helped me out to learn the bike.
And really helped me to my progession to SV650 in pro twins alot of riding skills could be brought over from 125 racing.

[suzuki mama]

Has any one received their voting papers yet . last year they were so late as to almost make the whole thing farcical and we were told it wouldnt happen again .!
checking with other club members around both islands and they havnt got anything either
delighted to hear the board are working on a charter convienently just before the AGM, ANY ONE ABLE TO COMMENT IF THEIR CLUB HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS ,OR IS THIS JUST ANOTHER SNOW JOB GIVE US THE WARM FUZZIES AT agm and make us think they have been working on it all along