This makes me unhappy with the world I live in

[fire eyes]

In typical bloody Kiwi fashion, once again everybody turns a blind eye to things that go on in neighbourhoods that they live in, until an event gets front page headlines.

Dog fighting is big business in New Zealand. It's well organised, well patronised, well supported and lucrative. There's a good statistical probability that Kiwi Biker members are involved.

But, like family violence, people just shut the fuck up until some poor innocent is maimed or killed.

In this latest case of some poor old dog being stolen and used as live bait for trained killer dogs, I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that this isn't the first time that the owners of these animals have done such a thing.

I predict that it is unlikely that the SPCA's reward will produce any tangible evidence that leads to a conviction.

I also predict that there are Kiwi Biker members who will defend the owning of dangerous dog breeds, on the basis that it's not the dog's fault.

I don't own any dogs. Granted there are some issues I do not think about unless they come to light via The News or Threads. I don't have room in my head to think or keep track of everything.

That does not mean I care any less.

[Beemer]

It absolutely appalled me, especially after seeing the old dog himself on the front page of the paper today. Looked a big softie. Loved hearing the owner say she'd like to snap the necks of the bastards who did this.

Hopefully with all those witnesses there will be rego plates for the white van the pit bull was tied to and the red car (hatchback I think) that the tall Maori with a pony tail arrived in with Lincoln.

As Hitcher says, I bet this isn't the first time this has happened, it's just the first time they have perhaps done it so publicly and someone has called the police to them.

I can't understand the attraction of watching animals tear each other to bits. At least with boxing the humans have been trained and have a choice, and they don't get rewarded for killing their opponent.

[Owl]

It's upset so many people, who have made donations to SPCA, that they (SPCA) are now able to offer a $20000 reward for info leading to arrest of the scum.
With that amount on offer it shouldn't take too long for someone to give them up.

I think that reward was put up by two business owners. Either way I hope these pricks are caught!

[Little Miss Trouble]

In typical bloody Kiwi fashion, once again everybody turns a blind eye to things that go on in neighbourhoods that they live in, until an event gets front page headlines.

Dog fighting is big business in New Zealand. It's well organised, well patronised, well supported and lucrative. There's a good statistical probability that Kiwi Biker members are involved.

But, like family violence, people just shut the fuck up until some poor innocent is maimed or killed.

In this latest case of some poor old dog being stolen and used as live bait for trained killer dogs, I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that this isn't the first time that the owners of these animals have done such a thing.

I predict that it is unlikely that the SPCA's reward will produce any tangible evidence that leads to a conviction.

I also predict that there are Kiwi Biker members who will defend the owning of dangerous dog breeds, on the basis that it's not the dog's fault.

Yes, sadly it has been going on for far too long and will continue to do so because there are far to many sickos out there who enjoy this 'sport'

I've worked with dogs rescued from this environment, some we had to put down because they'd gone mental, but others were the sweetest natured animals imaginable.

I'll put my hand up as one who will defend 'dangerous dog breeds' because it ISN'T the dogs fault, its the fucktard that trained the poor creature, the dog does it because it pleases his master/packleader.

[macros87]

i was really hoping this was some kind of crime against a bike.. this stuff really does disappoint me, just makes me have less faith in people being generally decent and caring.

[MSTRS:Me]

After the elderly dog tried to defend himself against one of the dogs, one of the owners tried to break Lincoln's legs by pulling them apart.

Fuck the wet bus ticket...bring back the rack. Oh, and 'drawing'. Let the punishment fit the crime.

[Number One]

I saw this lovely old doggy on the front page yesterday and have to admit I wanted to pick up the paper and read the story but knew it was something bad when the caption said 'they tried to break the dogs legs'...I chose to not read it as I knew it would upset me too much and stuff about cruelty to animals and kids just seems to sit with me heavily.

I'd like to point out that this does not equal turning a blind eye because if I had witness to this shit I'd have been on my phone so damn fast reporting them, their vehicle regos and all that stuff.

This makes me sick to my stomach. These people are fucking scum and there is nothing you could do to them that would be harsh enough as far as I am concerned - low life cretins!

[Finn]

The thing that turns my stomach the most is animal cruelty followed closely by maori scum. So this news got me really pissed off.

I hope they catch them so they can all get a $25 fine.

Revenge is the best justice folks.

[fire eyes]

The thing that turns my stomach the most is animal cruelty followed closely by maori scum. So this news got me really pissed off.

I hope they catch them so they can all get a $25 fine.

Revenge is the best justice folks.

hmmmmmmmmm

[MsKABC]

It's upset so many people, who have made donations to SPCA, that they (SPCA) are now able to offer a $20000 reward for info leading to arrest of the scum.
With that amount on offer it shouldn't take too long for someone to give them up.

I'd give them up for free if I knew who the revolting pr!cks were. As would most of us on here, I'm sure.

[Hitcher]

Also relevant to this discussion is the "break in" at the Invercargill pound, freeing two "dangerous dogs" that had been secured there.

[Dave Lobster]

Also relevant to this discussion is the "break in" at the Invercargill pound, freeing two "dangerous dogs" that had been secured there.

Secured???

[Str8 Jacket]

I read somewhere just recently that the SPCA now have the support, free of charge of a group of top lawyers. I hope that this may help in getting scum like this tougher penalties that actually cause the offender some form of distress. Judges have been getting tougher and tougher, just still not tough enough IMO. Sadly as Hitcher say's this has been going on "under peoples noses" for along time now. I had a flatmate who I found out was into it, it involves all types of members of society. Scum.

[98tls]

As has been posted the scum who do this shit will get no more than a slap on the wrist,those handing out the sentences cant seem to get tough with the likes of drink drivers so methinks whats a dogs chance of getting any real justice.

[Hitcher]

Interesting here is the depth of emotion felt against the perpetrators of the crime in this thread, versus the forgive-and-forget attitude being demonstrated by some KB members in the Tony Veitch sentencing thread. I'm not endeavoring to compare the offensiveness of either crime, merely noting that crimes against animals at times provokes a stronger response than comparable crimes against humans.