BHS in a couple of weeks

[Danae]

Yay, In a couple of weeks I'll have enough money to sit my BHS! I'm gonna do the extra training beforehand as well just in case. Anyways, wouldn't mind having a quick go on someone's 250 before then.

My Dad's gonna sit it as well. XD

[Slyer]

You can ride the GN or mine if it's going.

[Ragingrob]

The hour and half of training beforehand should be easily more than enough, you've already got balance sorted enough from scootermobiling!

[macros87]

ohhh where are you gona do it? my friend knows of a place where you can maybe do it on your own scooter, which might help you feel more comfortable doing the test? want me to ask him about it? do you have your eye on any one bike for when you can ride one?

[Danae]

I'd rather sit the test on a bike, scooters are too easy. For my first bike my aunt is trying to influence me to get a Ninja, but I probably can't save up enough even for the cheapest ones on tradme no matter how much I want one.
Will probably get a GN, there are heaps of those for sale right now.
I'll probs end up just having a go on the GN at the fixits. >D

[Slyer]

Save the money first before deciding.
We'll all start looking for good deals once you have the moolah

[motorbyclist]

not a GN!

my friend knows of a place where you can maybe do it on your own scooter, which might help you feel more comfortable doing the test?

doing it on a scooter without any gears would largely defeat the purpose of the test....

[Slyer]

Who cares?

[motorbyclist]

everyone who thinks new zealand drivers would benefit from some actual training, anyone who thinks that a test to prove that you can operate a machine should actually be on the machine you are to be licenced to operate, and anyone who agrees with being allowed to ride a scooter on a car licence but needing a bike licence for anything over 2.2KW

(machine being a MANUAL motorcycle, vastly different from a 50cc scooter)

[Qkchk:Me]

The BHS test can be sat on a automatic scooter - however what makes the difference is the 'scooter' must be classed as a 'motorcycle' (hence needing a class 6). So anything manual or auto over the 2kW / 50cc mark up to 250cc is suitable to sit the BHS test on.

People get confused over the term 'scooter'. I would rather call a 50cc and below a 'moped'.

But why cheat yourself on a auto?

[PirateJafa]

everyone who thinks new zealand drivers would benefit from some actual training, anyone who thinks that a test to prove that you can operate a machine should actually be on the machine you are to be licenced to operate

So I can sit my full on my Hayabusa?

These westie testing stations are GREAT!

[Danae]

I'm definitely sitting it on a manual machine, gotta get used to the gears.

[Slyer]

everyone who thinks new zealand drivers would benefit from some actual training, anyone who thinks that a test to prove that you can operate a machine should actually be on the machine you are to be licenced to operate, and anyone who agrees with being allowed to ride a scooter on a car licence but needing a bike licence for anything over 2.2KW

(machine being a MANUAL motorcycle, vastly different from a 50cc scooter)

Do you think we should force 125cc scooter riders to do the test on a motorcycle? The test is about safety, being able to corner and use the brakes. Manual or Automatic doesn't matter.
Jafa has a point.

[Danae]

There's a choice right? I say if you plan to ride a scooter then go ahead and do the test on a scooter...all about personal preference. I'd feel more confident about riding a 250 if I took the test on a motorcycle.

[motorbyclist]

In this case where where a person is sitting their BHS to get a licence with the express purpose of riding a motorcycle, to sit their BHS on an automatic scooter would defeat the purpose of the test itself.

So I can sit my full on my Hayabusa?

well it would prove you can handle one, although the current system is that you must prove you can handle a less powerful yet essestially the same machine.

ie, no you can't cause you're proing you can handle the 250 powah before jumping straight onto the hyabusa. good luck when you do though.

and that's not what i'm arguing - i'm arguing that you shouldn't be allowed to sit your BHS on a machine that does half the handling for you. the full licence test is a completely different kettle of fish - i'd suggest you go sit it some time

I'm definitely sitting it on a manual machine, gotta get used to the gears.

exactly

Do you think we should force 125cc scooter riders to do the test on a motorcycle? The test is about safety, being able to corner and use the brakes. Manual or Automatic doesn't matter.
Jafa has a point.

i don't agree with the car licence permitting scooter riding at all! In a slightly better system there would be a mandatory BHS course with a test at the end for car drivers too.

i think if your licence allows you to ride a motorcycle, and 99.99% of those on the market today are manual, then you should prove competence in riding a manual.

the test is about having the basic skills to operate/handle your machine, as the name implies.
basic handling of the clutch/gears is included in that, as they are an integral part of motorcycle handling, especially when in corners and when braking.

yes, jafa has a point in that the full licence test doesn't prove you can handle more than 40hp, but that doesn't mean we should let the basic test be equally useless. furthermore, the full test is to prove you can operate a road while on a bike, not the bike itself bike - and i'd suggest he keep quiet unless we want a japanese style licence system