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Thread: Road racing future; Superbike/600 Privateers.......and Production Naked bike Class.

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    Road racing future; Superbike/600 Privateers.......and Production Naked bike Class.

    Hi all, Red here.

    I don't hardly ever get a chance to write/read on these forums, just too busy. But thought over the next few days, put down some thoughts and aims I would like to bring to our road race scene. This is a slightly long post, so please read it all.

    Firstly, congrads to Ed, Sloan, Rhys etc on putting in a great effort during the Nationals. You guys were a real credit to yourselfs and to road racing in general. Well done.

    Also, I hope you enjoy Robbies bike Ed. I took out our suspension settings/parts etc, was not too keen to pass those on to you yet...lol....but the settings/parts that I put in, I would hope would be a good base line to start with for you.
    ( I would possibly be quite keen on buying the bike back when you are done.......the one with the carbon fibre covers on the frame, swingarm etc. That is the bike Robbie has won 2 titles on. So it would be nice to get it back one day and have set up in my show room. Let me know maybe.)

    As well, the rest of the bike is basically exactly how Robbie had it. So it is a good bike, and pretty quick.......!!!

    As some of you may have heard. I have been trying to put together a Privateer's class within both Superbikes and 600's.

    The aim of this, is to give the people who don't have the full support of the factories etc and are not at the sharp end of the field, to be racing for something worth while, even if they are not at the front of the pack. This way I am hoping that, everyone feels that they are move involved with in the race, and have something else to aim for and achieve, there by feeling that the money and effort they are putting in, is worth while........plus they are having fun and enjoying the challenge.

    What is a Privateer......??.........Ok, well in my eyes, this is someone not getting full factory backing, who owns their bike, or is riding a privately owned bike of someone elses.
    They can receive dealer support and have good sponsors who help pay for product etc But, as long as they are not getting full factory support, then I would regard them as Privateers.

    From what I see so far, we have 6 Factory Superbikes and 4 Factory 600's........this sound about right??

    The aim is to have proper Championship cups for 1st, 2nd & 3rd place. I also would like to work on seeing if I could get more support from product suppliers, for top 3 place getters, to receive a set of tyres, or race chains (like has happened) Oils, maybe ferry vouchers for return trips, or what ever.
    Basically things that help privateers race in the class and that are usefull to help them achieve this. This would be after every round.

    This is for both Superbikes and 600's class.

    Thoughts please.......????

    Production Naked Bikes...........

    Ok, I feel there is a bit of a gap between the F3/Pro Twins class and the 600/Superbike Class.
    So, I reckon, something along the lines of a Production Naked Bike class would fill the gap.

    Reason on Naked bikes.........well, there are a heap of different makes and models, which I feel could bring a different dimension to road racing.
    I DO NOT want to take riders out of the 600's or Superbikes, but I am hoping, that maybe some of the "Older" riders, would come back and play and also some of the younger riders would look at this class, before moving up to SBK/600's.

    Plus, also attract naked bike owners (and I am talking about the naked bikes.......not naked owners...!!!!!.....) to also come and try out our sport.

    Rules........bikes have to be Production Naked Bikes.......so no GSXR's etc turned into a naked, Bikes from the factory with bars, not clip ons.

    Also the engine size would be from 675cc and upwards.
    2 sets of prodie tyres (same as what is used in the 600 class), that will be marked, and are for qualifing and the 3 races.
    Exhaust......Muffler and pipe back to the collector (so that catalyic converters can also be removed) allowed......no full race systems.
    Power Commanders or similar piggy back systems allowed. No race ECU's.
    After Market Air Filter.

    That is all you can do to the engine. No compression adjustment, no cam adjustment, nothing.......!!

    Suspension.
    Rear shock is open to what ever you want to run.
    Front suspension.......Standard outer/inner stanchions, but springs, oil, valving/shims can be changed. But no cartridge kits etc.
    Steering damper is open.

    Then just the usual changes, like braided lines, brake pads, rear sets, crash bungs. You can also change the bars to stronger bars like Pro Tapers etc.

    The only type of fairing you can run, is what ever the bike came with standard.......of course after market copies are fine, as long as they are exact replicas of the original fairing.

    Ok, I would be keen on hearing back on this proposal too. And if you all think that it could work.
    My main aim here with this class, is to attract people to come and ride at the Nationals, have fun in a class that is not too serious, but uses big bikes (A B-King anyone...????).....and that brings a slightly different dimension to the feild.

    So, let me know your thoughts on all the above please.
    Sorry about how long this is. I do have more ideas, thoughts to throw at you all, but best I do it on other posts, otherwise, this may turn into a novel.....!!!

    Thanks eveyone.

    Cheers,
    Red.

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    Sounds good to me, like the naked bike idea.

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    Some good food for thought in there Red.



    How about making a heap more top bikes so more of us can have a chance to buy one

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    Sounds great, I'd love to see a Gixxer 750 cup here in NZ. Pipe, air filter and fairings and you have a great class
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    Ya got me on the naked bikes (old ? Yes ! Stubborn ? Deffinately !) soon put the bars back on !
    I'm currently emailing shops to see what deal i could get for mine as a trade for an F2 bike as i am gonna get in the way in F1, but i don't wanna sell the bloody thing ! But do want to race !
    Has anyone floated the idea of a power to weight allowance for say a bears bike in F2 ? Cause thats where my 1050 is competitive !
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    hi Triple R

    mate dont take this the wrong way, but who are you dude lol

    All sounds great but can you intro yourself a tad for us please ?

    Cheers and awesome post !
    Ive run out of fucks to give

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quasievil View Post
    hi Triple R

    mate dont take this the wrong way, but who are you dude lol

    All sounds great but can you intro yourself a tad for us please ?

    Cheers and awesome post !
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    Love the idea of a Naked Production Bike class. Being a KTM Superduke owner who is in my first seasons racing in Clubmans and already on the cusp of being too fast it would give me somewhere to go other than F1, in which I would, like Sinfull, be too slow and maybe even a danger to the Superbike boys. I think the Naked Bike bit makes it wide enough to get a really interesting range of entries like a bears feild but with Jappers too. The fact that no bike will have an aerodynamic advantage should ensure good close racing.
    I am in........Please.

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    Hi Red, Ed here..first of all thank you for your post.
    I havent met you ..probably have seen you though somewhere during the nationals... so hopefully meet again soon!
    As far as the bike.. took it out the first time last week at puke... a lot more grunt than my old bike ever had.. far better handling even though the suspension felt a little off.. (just turn one at puke) so much so the rear started delaminating.. could be a number of things i guess, suspension, tyre pressures etc.. will try again this saturday, with another set of tyres and do some testing.. Thank you for your notes attached to the bike.. (i did ask some people around the traps.. and Tom at suzuki if you were a reputable person... and all came back with glowing positive responses) dont mind me.. it was only because i hadnt met you.and really dont know much about you. and im a sceptic at the best of times and sorry for being such a dimwit... but your skills go far beyong what i had realized.. again.. im a dimwit!!

    anyways.. im hoping we can establish some relationship, that works well for both of us.

    Sloan and i will both be doing the winter series,, and then nationals this year we want to do this bigger and better than anyone has ever before.. so lets hope it all comes to fruition

    i really like the idea of the privateer class and think it has a lot of merit..

    hope to meet you soon Red..

    Cheers

    Ed

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    How about Gsxr750 with slip on mufflers(maybe suspension too!) in the f2 class,there are some 6hundy's that still pull away from my 7friddy on the back straights...
    Fook Yeah!...Me Got DRZ400sm Now!

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    I like the idea of both the naked bike class and the production race classes
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    If we could get enough 750's in F1 we could do away with 600's cross entering. Sosman we could start our own and just polish the cup on alternate months!
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    Great ideas Red, the Naked Bike Class would be my favourite. (although I would rather have standard suspension I realise the safety angle) Hope this happens, should be good for the Sport

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    Great ideas Red!! Will be easy to put them all in place when you start your new job as road race commissioner....

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    And with ideas like that ya got my vote !
    A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
    The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"

    Bowls can wait !

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