BMRC Discussion

[Rashika]

I have a few issues that I feel need to be raised:

Point of fact:
1. when were you last a paid up member of the Club Kickaha?

2. How much help have you given or offered over the last couple of years to the club? e.g. BOB etc

When you do either of the above you are entitled to an opinion.

And FFS get a life and stop shitstirring.

[dangerous]

I have a few issues that I feel need to be raised:

Issue 1
Issue 2
Issue 3
Issue 4.

Ummm... this is a wind up right?


1) what would you prefure the way in which I was made pressie... I was simply told Im it.
I for one would be more than happy for a re vote.
What info do you want?
I did all the telling up, your problem If you dont trust me.

2) The two in charge of the BMRC asure me they did not lock me out of the site (by changing the pass word) there is only one person that can do thet, the site suplyer Brendan, he has no right what so ever to tamper with any thing, we pay him over 2 hundred a year for the site.

termiate my membership... LMFAO and you are?

3)yip sure would be easier

4)just as imature comment as the above... I alone could never raise the club to what it is now, big thanks to TonyM other web sites, basicly the list is endliss.

"once again" if the site wasnt tampered with and wrongfull propergander sent out, there would have been no need for it. I will allways defend my self.

[Buddha#81:Me]

oh fook this again........start her up again Gav.

All partys need to sort this out off line not on here!

[dangerous]

Can't argue with any of that, why do we not have an AGM? And if we do, why are the officers not elected there? Is there an Income & Expenditure printed up to show how financial the club is and where the money goes? Profit and Loss from BoB?

AGM is at the end of year BBQ... you never chose to show.
As Brent C stood down from Pres, we needed a new pres now... not in 7 months.
yes had you ever showen up at the AGM you would see such info.
dont bitch if ya dont show...



I cant be bothered with any more ill informed comments, so I will not be responding... got a problem with me, show ya face.

[gav]

OK the date finalised for the last AGM/BBQ was settled with about a weeks notice, unfortunately I was called in to work that Sunday to cover staffing. With a bit more warning I may've been able to make other plans. The previous year I think was playing representitive golf. Maybe a mail out of the info to all financial members who can't attend, could be in order in future?

PS. if you don't mind a bit of advertising around the website, there are plenty of free websites that include a forum attached.

[Bren_chch]

2) The two in charge of the BMRC asure me they did not lock me out of the site (by changing the pass word) there is only one person that can do thet, the site suplyer Brendan, he has no right what so ever to tamper with any thing, we pay him over 2 hundred a year for the site.

BUT WAIT, there is more!!!

Hi *******... no what it has to do with is Brens problem with me, he has baned me from the bmrc site, removed me from the commitee and changed wording around with out the consent of TonY M or Lou... we pay him hundreds a year for the site he has no right to enter the admin side, and ill also say last week he declined a position on the commitee.

he is playing a game thats what he does, yes I played for a while but now I have had enough.

DD

My reply to DD (dangerous)

I have not banned anyone from the bucket website, but yes I did change the admin password because someone has been changing the content without permission from the president who i add was notified of the new access details.
I have never edited the bucket website unless I have been asked to.
I never removed Darryl from the committee list, in fact I didn’t even know there was one on the website.
The Bucket Club pay $200 a year (thats $3.84 a week) for Hosting fees, i donate use of a website that I often develop free of charge, including the latest feature of a gallery, and I’ll think you will find that I actually have every right to enter the admin section because i own the site but again i repeat have donated it to the club for use. The club simply pays for the hosting fees, so yet again you have no idea of the facts.
I declined a position on the committee so I didn’t have to deal with Dangerous

I think it’s actually you Darryl that is playing the game. You just can’t help yourself and I also think it’s you who changed the wording and did the other changes without consent. I have only ever tried to help the club in any way I can, you seem to only help in a way that helps you. You've dug a hole so deep you now need more and more dribble to try and get out, but it wont work!

This is all over the Visordown 'thing' and your personal issues towards me and what MY choices have been... I tried to break the ice with you at the latest event, i waved over and said hello when you were looking right at me after race 1, you just turned your head away and looked at the floor ignoring me. If thats how you want to be then so be it. You are the one who has created this problem that has grown out of control, you have nobody else to blame!

[gav]

Quote from Dangerous
I cant be bothered with any more ill informed comments, so I will not be responding... got a problem with me, show ya face.

OK, maybe its time this was closed, otherwise this is going to turn into another slagging match.

[gav]

OK, have had a couple of requests for this thread to be reopened. Please keep it clean, it will be moderated accordingly .....

[Yow Ling]

ok so who changed the fxr frame rule?

"FXR frames will be alowd with FXR engines"

looks to be hacked in a dialect of dangerese to me

[Kickaha]

Point of fact:
1. when were you last a paid up member of the Club Kickaha?

2. How much help have you given or offered over the last couple of years to the club? e.g. BOB etc

When you do either of the above you are entitled to an opinion.

And FFS get a life and stop shitstirring.

I'm actually a bit disappointed in your reply as you're intelligent enough to come up with a far better response than that, and actually address the issues I raised rather than divert attention from them.

As it is what you've said isn't really relevant to the items I put up for discussion but I'll reply to them anyway.

1) As of Sunday I am a paid up member. However the last time (2007) I wanted to pay for my membership dangerous told me not to bother as I was not doing the full series, but that he would leave me on the email list.

2) I haven't, nor am I likely to offer, I have been on committees with other clubs and as with all clubs 95% of the work is done by 5% of the members, and I don't intend to place myself in that position again. That doesn’t mean I am not grateful for the work the committee and President do, or that I would refuse to help if asked.

None of this was intended to shitstir, my personal opinion is that these were topics that needed to be discussed.

Ummm... this is a wind up right?

No it isn't, that is not an excuse I use .

1) what would you prefure the way in which I was made pressie... I was simply told Im it.
I for one would be more than happy for a re vote.
What info do you want?
I did all the telling up, your problem If you dont trust me.

In your case there was only one nomination so no vote was required.

Nor am I asking for a revote, just with two candidates it would have been nice to have more time for both candidates to tell us what they would bring to the club before the voting was done.

2) The two in charge of the BMRC asure me they did not lock me out of the site (by changing the pass word) there is only one person that can do thet, the site suplyer Brendan, he has no right what so ever to tamper with any thing, we pay him over 2 hundred a year for the site.

My understanding is you were only locked out after using the BMRC group email to send the email which named Brendan as "sabotaging the site".

termiate my membership... LMFAO and you are?

Not my decision to make, but in a more formal club that would be the kind of penalty you could expect.

Which is another topic in itself, does the BMRC have a written constitution?

4)just as imature comment as the above... I alone could never raise the club to what it is now, big thanks to TonyM other web sites, basicly the list is endliss.

Yet you've claimed by yourself on more than one occasion to have been responsible for the growth in club members only back pedalling when someone has pointed out it wasn't just you.

"once again" if the site wasnt tampered with and wrongfull propergander sent out, there would have been no need for it. I will allways defend my self.

What tampering was done to the site? And what wrongful propaganda was sent out?

AGM is at the end of year BBQ... you never chose to show.
As Brent C stood down from Pres, we needed a new pres now... not in 7 months.
yes had you ever showen up at the AGM you would see such info.
dont bitch if ya dont show...

I think the AGM should be held at the last round of the winter series, which would ensure the maximum number of members present and would allow a settling in period for the new President/committee before the next seasons racing.

[gav]

ok so who changed the fxr frame rule?

"FXR frames will be alowd with FXR engines"

looks to be hacked in a dialect of dangerese to me

Exactly, I emailed Dangerous and asked him this;
Are you saying you havent changed any of the new write up regarding new rules etc?

His reply
correct I have not changed any thing, I did add the points last sunday then bren shut me out, hes playing a game I cant be bothered with.

[gav]

Another issue regarding the email Dangerous sent out.
In fact non FXR frames have never been allowd Gwende's never scored points when she had the RZ-fxr and neither did Gav

Last year Mike S GOT points because he was on a FXR framed bike this year like Brendan he will not.
The rules were updated but not changed recently (over a month back)

This is incorrect, my RZ-FXR scored points in all of the 2008 MotoFXR races in was entered in, as can be seen here.

MotoFXR 2008 points
27 Gav Menting 08/06, 07/06, 07/06, 08/07, 05/05 06/05 -76

I switched over to an FXR frame part way through the 2008 season.
I'm pretty sure Mike raced and scored points with his TZR framed FXR as well.

[Bren_chch]

Exactly, I emailed Dangerous and asked him this;
Are you saying you havent changed any of the new write up regarding new rules etc?

His reply
correct I have not changed any thing, I did add the points last sunday then bren shut me out, hes playing a game I cant be bothered with.

So he says he didn't change anything "I did add the points last Sunday". Well in my defence your honour that is not true because he, being dangerous… on the night of Monday was playing with his points, I know this because the president mentioned to me that Dangerous thought it was funny to add 100 points to his name for round 1, he also did not remove them until Tuesday despite the president asking for them to be removed shortly after he added them on Monday. President = "Darryl has added 100 points to his name, I have asked him to remove them but he is just laughing at me and ignoring my request. I don't want to alienate him but can you block his access if he continues to mess with the site in this way?"

Then Tuesday he sent out an email using the clubs mail list. What else is he forgetting to mention?

[k14]

Point of fact:
1. when were you last a paid up member of the Club Kickaha?

2. How much help have you given or offered over the last couple of years to the club? e.g. BOB etc

When you do either of the above you are entitled to an opinion.

And FFS get a life and stop shitstirring.

Sorry R but Kickaha does bring up some very valid points. Yes he and D have not seen eye to eye on many occasions but I think the mere fact that myself and many others (see in the thread) agree with him is proof that he isn't "shitstirring".

Now this has been a very ugly and disappointing chain of events and regardless if bren changed the website (of which the evidence is indeed very thin if there is any at all) D went about it the completely wrong way. Someone in his position should know better than that. He totally abused his powers sending out completly unverified allegations against someone who has done a lot for the club and still thinks he has done nothing wrong. I am the first to admit that D has done a heap for the club and myself along with many others are very grateful for his time and effort, but with the actions of the last few days he has (IMO) lost alot of the respect he has built up over the last few years.

I think it is mostly petered out for now but in future D needs to take a few deep breaths and engage that thing between his ears before he starts shooting off allegations left, right and centre. The new pres is settling in now and I trust she will deal with the episode in due course and make an informed and clear headed decision.

Thats my 2c anyway

[Buddha#81:Me]

Sorry R but Kickaha does bring up some very valid points. Yes he and D have not seen eye to eye on many occasions but I think the mere fact that myself and many others (see in the thread) agree with him is proof that he isn't "shitstirring".

Now this has been a very ugly and disappointing chain of events and regardless if bren changed the website (of which the evidence is indeed very thin if there is any at all) D went about it the completely wrong way. Someone in his position should know better than that. He totally abused his powers sending out completly unverified allegations against someone who has done a lot for the club and still thinks he has done nothing wrong. I am the first to admit that D has done a heap for the club and myself along with many others are very grateful for his time and effort, but with the actions of the last few days he has (IMO) lost alot of the respect he has built up over the last few years.

I think it is mostly petered out for now but in future D needs to take a few deep breaths and engage that thing between his ears before he starts shooting off allegations left, right and centre. The new pres is settling in now and I trust she will deal with the episode in due course and make an informed and clear headed decision.

Thats my 2c anyway

Well said from someone so young.........much what I was thinking.
As a Ex Pressy, I was all for only having one class being F4 run under MNZ rules (peer pressure made the proddys be included). This wouldnt have stopped the lovers tiff between members but most of this shit slinging would have been eliminated, or they would argue about something else?

I'm still for KISS and why have a F5 class with one bike, any one got a 50? If so, you're are in for a good championship placing. Lets ditch all the BS classes run under the Labour Govt and have one or two classes that are controlled be MNZ rules. If ya not fast enough to win, get faster. This is the real world we carn't all be winners.

AS for D and Bren you to need your heads smacked togeather, all this shit slinging makes the chch bucket sceen look like Shortland Street. You are/were mates and have helped each other recently which has been forgotten, you both are driving a wedge through the club which is not healthy. Give each other a hug and lets get on with what we love.....racing booquets. From what I understand Bren is happy to put it behind him (Last Sunday), you two get togeather and sort ya shit!

A Ex Headmaster