On Marijuana

**CookMySock** · 19th April 2009, 23:05

Originally Posted by Disco Dan

If your english language skills where as good as your disregard for factual information you would realise that my initial post said I was a previous user of marijuana. It took me many years to realise the grip the drug had over me and to hit rock bottom. I know understand the destructive nature of the drug and the huge damage it can do to the human brain.

Dude, Shut up already, geez we hear ya ok. Relax for a bit. Have a to.. oh you don't toke, disregard!

Steve

**jrandom** · 19th April 2009, 23:11

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

Have a to.. oh you don't toke, disregard!

Well, he did up until, uh... well, at least a year ago, or so. Presumably some spectacular evidence of mental slowness scared him into giving up, although as I intimated earlier, I suspect that the weed might just be a convenient scapegoat for that.

Nothing worse than some born-again "I've just given up and now you all will too" cunt. Particularly the ones that aren't that bright.

I always thought ex cigarette smokers were the worst (particularly the ones that yoyo in and out of 'giving up') but obviously ex-stoners can be pretty bad too. (Some of them, anyway. SPB's a good cunt.)

**CookMySock** · 19th April 2009, 23:18

Aye, yup.

Steve

**Mikkel** · 19th April 2009, 23:22

Originally Posted by jrandom

Nothing worse than some born-again "I've just given up and now you all will too" cunt. Particularly the ones that aren't that bright.

So that would be all of them I guess?

Anyone who feels the need to dictate to others how they must live their lives based upon their own personal experiences with something they couldn't handle would do better to shut up and move on. In a way they are worse than those who condemn something without even an ounce of experience on the matter...

**Disco Dan** · 19th April 2009, 23:31

Ahh that ol chestnut...

put others down and self justification.

It's law for a reason ya know

**jrandom** · 19th April 2009, 23:32

Originally Posted by Disco Dan

It's law for a reason ya know

Sure is. And that's what the OP covered.

**marioc** · 20th April 2009, 09:14

Pot makes my video games more fun!

**R1madness** · 20th April 2009, 10:32

Rather than legalise it how about considering this as an option?

The government could issue grow licences to a regulated industry. (Like the HEMP growing company out at oxford). They could control the quality and strength of the THC as well as putting a genetic marker in it for testing purposes.

Make the pot available from regulated sorces (like a bottle store) as a prerolled or roll your own package for a cheaper price than it is currently available for (currently about $11.50 per gram) from the black market.

Make it a prisonable offence to grow your own (hence the genetic marker) or have non regulated pot in your posession.. No excuses. It is now available from your local government approved "dealer".

The up sides?
Tax revenue for the government (yes it is an up side really).
Less revenue for the gangs.
A new industry here in NZ so new jobs created
More difficult access for underage users (yes i know they can still get it from their older bro but there needs to be some social responcability just like booze)
A reduction in police man hours to tackle the dreaded weed. (Will still need enforcement officers just not as many)
Cheaper prices for your smoke of choice.
Accurate labeling of product so when you pay for Afgan gold you actually get it...

Just some random thoughts now where is my pipe????"? cant seem to remember where i put it!!! Oh there it is sitting on the table now where is my bloody lighter it was red, who has stolen it. Bloody smokers they are all lighter theives.... must have something to do with not being able to remember who you borrowed it off once you have used it......

**CookMySock** · 20th April 2009, 10:49

Yeah that would be cool alright - we could drive for 20mins into town to pay $15 for a skinny roll of brown dry crumbly cabbage that was "government approved" complete with government warning "warning: this shit will fuck up your head", when it won't.

Stoners are fiercely anti-establishment. Theres no way such an arrangement is going to last. Basically, the government is just going to have to ignore the three-plant home-grower "industry" completely.

Steve

**R1madness** · 20th April 2009, 11:09

hehehehe yea stoners are generally anti establishment, however i am not talking about getting crappy weed, i get enough o that when i buy local....
I am talking about govt regulated that controls the quality by correct labeling and testing (sort o like the alcohol industry) not by reducing the quality.... The only way to get rid o the criminal element is to offer a better quality product at a cheaper price from more convenient locations.

Home grown is nice but eratic in quality and supply as well as risky. Buy good pot from a regulated source of known quailty for a reasonable price with no risk seems like a better option to me. I can do without the criminal tag...

**SMOKEU** · 20th April 2009, 11:15

Pot should be decriminalized just like in the Netherlands. People should be allowed to grow up to 5 plants at a time for personal use only, and there should be government approved "factories" where weed is professionally grown and packaged and sold to the general public in party pill stores and bottle stores. This will take revenue away from the gangs, and the money generated from the "weed tax" could be used to fund rehab for druggies and alcoholics, or to fight poverty etc. If pot were to be grown professionally by trained horticulturists then the quality of the product would far exceed that of an average home grown crop. People pay for quality, and would rather smoke some really chronic shit than some average home grown bud. I would rather smoke something grown in controlled conditions than something which grew in someones cupboard with all sorts of added mystery chemicals.

Far too much police time and resources is currently being wasted on a cause in which is essentially a 'dead end'. The cops can bust a tinny house, only for another one to open down the road after a couple of days. If your bike got stolen or your house got broken into, surely you would want the police to do a thorough investigation rather than to be 'too busy' dealing with a couple of stoners toking up in a park or someone with a couple of plants in their cupboard.

**tri boy** · 20th April 2009, 11:29

Used it infrequently-to frequently through my twenties and thities.
Lost interest in it.
The thing that bugged me most about procuring it was being made to feel like a criminal by buying off sleaze balls and shit heads.
Tried growing a few plants once, but lawn dies under my care so that also failed.
Decriminalise it to owning a couple of plants for self use.
Stoners don't go home and bash the wife and kids, so it has something going for it, unlike excessive drinkers, and P freaks.
Society has much bigger issues to deal with than Mary Jane.
MHO

**awayatc** · 20th April 2009, 11:55

Was legal when I grew up in Holland......

Something you did when growing up..

They even have dial a joint.....

Not many people people there keep smoking dope as adults....

Good to have it out of the criminal sector....
Just go to a coffeshop, and buy what you want at a reasonable price.
I even remember the prices got listed in the newspaper...just like shareprices....
(Maroccan $3 a gram, yellow Lebanese $5, etc.....Every friday)
And good not to have it ruin your life because of a conviction that stays with yo for ever

And no I don't smoke dope myself