For Sale: Shift Lights (Group Buy)

[Eclipze]

One more thing to concentrate on is exactly what we all need!
R1 is good!

Ho hum.... there is always one.

Yeah true, concentration is needed... but thats only true when its new. When you first ever jumped on a bike, you would be trying to remember which lever is the clutch and which the the brake. Hard to believe now, but sure enough everything new is going to draw your attention until its familiar. After that, its useful!

You seem to have a lot to say on the topic... not sure why your perspective is weighted so much to one side though!



You obviously have a lot to say, so I thought we should get to know each other. I'm currently riding a CBR250RR, have been for the last 3 years. Racked up a fair bit of saddle time too, as I commute. Lost count of just how many track days I've done, but I'm told my technique is of great form and super smooth. I've even managed to draft and overtake a CBR400 down the main straight of Philip Island. I've also complete level 1, level 2 and even level 3 of the Australian Superbike School - have the textbooks too! Would like to do the last one, level 4, but I need better suspension to push it that bit more.

Here is a pic of me... that was taken about 3 weeks ago at Philip Island. It was going through the corner "Siberia"... know it well. Gas out of the previous corner, flick the butt to the other side, hit the brakes slightly and click up a gear, turn in at my fav spot nice and deep.



Actually... I skipped a bit... I only gas it enough to get me to the 6th light, unless the track temp is high enough to brake that little bit harder . Before I sight my next visual cue to get my line, I'm usually tipping the 2nd light (12,000rpm). Anymore, and I know I'II have to tighten my line or risk running the turn exit ripple at WOT. Guess thats why I'm smooth and consisent, but also have that extra information (reference point) to vary my entry speed as required.

I've also got a good friend I talk to regularly who is an ex-superbike racer too, and he now teaches the art!! Great person to discuss technique and bounce ideas off for rider instrumentation - he has the background for the rider science and I have 2 degrees in electronics.

So now you... you've got an R1 do you?? Taken it to the track a few times? Your profile says "Manx TT by Sega"... forgive my ignorance, but it kinda sounds like your favourite Sega game than a bike. Litre bikes certainly have a lot of power, can get you unstuck pretty easy without good concentration. If you like, I might be able to introduce you to that riding teacher I know to help with any concentration problems your experiencing...

[wkid_one]

So quick to jump in - yet, as always - fucken wrong! For starters - my posts only total 4 sentences - yours is a fucken book - and more importantly, completely off target you gherkin.

Interesting argument - yes I too have done more track times than I can remember - yet you all seem to be missing the point. DID YOU READ MY POST

unless of course you really want to save 10 one thous of a sec on the commute in to work!

I am not talking about track applications you half reader...

You seem to all be comparing this 'toy' with the GP and F1 equivalent - yet, how often in real road riding situations does it matter if you are 250rpm early or late in changing gear? How often?

Track applications - yes no doubt - if you are chasing hundreds and thousandths of a second improvement in your time - and you have the time to practice and test on the track to understand where and when to change at the appropriate revs.

For road riding - this is an arbitrary piece of crap occupying concentration (which isn't unlimited) - as unlike the track, there are many more variables that affect optimum speed and gearing....eg, unknown/unexpected decreasing radius corners

Oh and Elipze, sorry you are obviously a biking legend (you tosser - sif you were really that good - you wouldn't see the need to go in to such length to tell us about it) - but there are a lot of newbie riders on here that will follow peoples lead.....and unfortunately their concentration is limited - and this is one distraction that they can most likely do without.

PS: Poor sales technique! Ciao

[onearmedbandit]

Ok it could be dangerous to newbies, so its not a good idea. Forget about experienced riders that could find something like this useful, it could be dangerous to newbies. Lets also forget that this device is not only a max rev indicator, but can be programed to indivate any rev range. So it could be used to indicate where peak torque is, where an ideal shift point below max revs is, etc.

[Coyote]

I'm a newbie to the track, but I could see one of these being a big help for me. It would be easier seeing the lights under your eye instead of looking at the dash all the time

Plus, seeing all the lights might stop me from blowing up the engine

[BNZ]

You seem to all be comparing this 'toy' with the GP and F1 equivalent - yet, how often in real road riding situations does it matter if you are 250rpm early or late in changing gear? How often?

Because on a 250 they not only make a fuck load of noise, but also take quite a long time to reach the red line. 15000rpm sounds quite similar to 20000rpm

Little bit more than 250rpm.... Sure it may be of no use riding through traffic but come on, everyone lets loose on the road every now and then. I generally turn mine off around town and for open road cruising (just touch both buttons and shes gone) and then flick it on when I feel that I want to ride a bit harder. I also have the rev range set a bit lower for the road as I have no need to prematurely end my engines life.

There may be little or no use for some people, but doesnt mean that there isnt a great use for others.

[Eclipze]

Ha haa... temper temper!

Gee... I had a newbie thank me, because it helped them understand when to change gear. Had another that hadn't used the whole rev range of a 250, and didn't realise until they were trying to ride it above 14k (shifting too soon). I had yet another newbie that uses it in certain gear as a type of speed alert, because drifting above the speed limit is so easy.

I seriously think your a little narrow in your thinking there! It's not something everyone will use, want or need.

You should perhaps consider being being a little more reserved in your opinion for something you haven't even seen or used yourself!!! Consider the opinion of those that do have one!

[Coyote]

Had another that hadn't used the whole rev range of a 250, and didn't realise until they were trying to ride it above 14k (shifting too soon).

I didn't stray under 14k for too long at the track last Saturday :-p

[scumdog]

p.s. isnt "ghey" spelt gay??

Not on this site matey-flick, it rank up there with spelling garage as "gargre".

Once you get the hang of it gargre and ghey flow naturally off the keyboard...

[Syphon_Life]

best money i ever spent eclipse

just let the harley riders stick to their chrome and use the rest of
their money on swappa crates

[Eclipze]

Prices are going up next month.

FYI... Only have 4 of the curved ones left now that can be customised.
I do have 20+ of the curved already built with GGGGAAR & BBBBBRR.
Straight versions I still have plenty.

[John]

Prices are going up next month.

FYI... Only have 4 of the curved ones left now that can be customised.
I do have 20+ of the curved already built with GGGGAAR & BBBBBRR.
Straight versions I still have plenty.

Are these still in AU?

[Eclipze]

I'm in AU, but ship anywhere.
A quick scroll through, I count 7 sent to NZ already

[John]

Guess you do paypal? how much is the shipping on top of the units?

[Eclipze]

AU$17 (~NZ$18.20), which includes postal insurance.
I don't charge for handling, just postage.

I can also ship more than one in a box, so you can split the costs with others if your interested.

Payment is by Paypal, registration is free.

[TLDV8]

I am a happy buyer,great unit





The unit is easy to see without being a distraction and took me personally only a half day or less to get used to ...one thing i found with the way i have it set..any more than 3 LED's showing in the upper gears and i am speeding,something i simply don't notice as much relying on the speedometer which in some cases is not clear with varying light.