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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    Ummm, most of them were traffic fines. Did the bones-of-their-arse poor souls break the law in rental cars????
    If I recall correctly the rental car firms can deduct fines from your credit card....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBD View Post
    If I recall correctly the rental car firms can deduct fines from your credit card....
    lol my point was people can't say it's hard to seize assets when the offenders are driving around in a *car* that they are also using to accrue said fines.

    Can't pay up? Bye bye wheels....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    lol my point was people can't say it's hard to seize assets when the offenders are driving around in a *car* that they are also using to accrue said fines.

    Can't pay up? Bye bye wheels....
    Agreed, it is the habitual offenders/non payers that need to be targeted not the one offs who have not paid yet....

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanzs View Post
    Is anybody really surprised?

    No.

    ....Still no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    lol my point was people can't say it's hard to seize assets when the offenders are driving around in a *car* that they are also using to accrue said fines.

    Can't pay up? Bye bye wheels....
    What makes you think that said wheels are actually worth anything? And apart from depriving some loser of transport for as long as it takes him/her to grab another $100 POS, I can't see what effect it would have. And then there's the whole "who is the registered owner" thing. The court's time is more than the value to be extracted...
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    ... The court's time is more than the value to be extracted...
    But thats the problem... its not supposed to be about the money and shouldn't matter what the cost, the penalty must be paid and collection priority should be given to those with the most (number and/or amount) of unpaid fines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    What makes you think that said wheels are actually worth anything? And apart from depriving some loser of transport for as long as it takes him/her to grab another $100 POS, I can't see what effect it would have. And then there's the whole "who is the registered owner" thing. The court's time is more than the value to be extracted...
    Yeah you're right, it's too hard and costly. Just let them get away with it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork View Post
    But thats the problem... its not supposed to be about the money and shouldn't matter what the cost, the penalty must be paid and collection priority should be given to those with the most (number and/or amount) of unpaid fines.
    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    Yeah you're right, it's too hard and costly. Just let them get away with it....
    Yea yea I know.
    Perhaps if 'costs of collecting/disposing of car(s)' could simply be added to the total as would subtracting the value realised from said car...I think they call that 'Revolving Credit'
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    What makes you think that said wheels are actually worth anything?...
    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork View Post
    But thats the problem... its not supposed to be about the money...
    Correct. The function of a penalty is supposed to be deterrence, the fact they’re giving up on the hard cases simply demonstrates that the focus is on revenue.

    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    And then there's the whole "who is the registered owner" thing...
    So what, either they stole it, (more charges) or they borrowed it from someone who was prepared to aid & abet etc, (again, more charges). Crush the fuckers.
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    If the mechanism to remove fines from someone's pay already exists, and IRD can decide that I'm going to pay them $700+ a fortnight for Student Loan payments that they decided that I owed them after an audit, and my employer didn't tell me that was going to happen and apparently doesn't have to, why are they tip-toeing around fines defaulters?

    Just take the money. All of their pay/dole until they have it paid back. Too bad if they can't pay for their rent, GE Finance loans and weed. To quote every bastard adult in the universe: "They should have thought of that before they did the crime."
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    If the mechanism to remove fines from someone's pay already exists, and IRD can decide that I'm going to pay them $700+ a fortnight for Student Loan payments that they decided that I owed them after an audit, and my employer didn't tell me that was going to happen and apparently doesn't have to, why are they tip-toeing around fines defaulters?
    Because politicians need a nice big cup of harden the fuck up.

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