Very disappointed with attendance of Enduro at Pukekohe

[Biggles08]

You wont race an AMCC event because they don't run transponders? That's a bit gay. How often have you finished a race so closely to another racer that you've needed a transponder to tell you who was in front?

Its not for that reason WT...its for the attitude shown at a good suggestion AND the poor form we continually get because they ignore their members and don't run (or didn't for the summer series) transponders. I was talking to a bloke this weekend who for the second AMCC meeting in a row had his position on the starting grid fucked up because they got his qualifying times wrong! In round two there were racers who had DNS next to their names after races when they were out there racing....passing people...needless to say they were not impressed. There were DNF's from people who did Finish....it was a dogs bollocks mess....and it seems the leason has not been learnt! If they had transponders on the times would have been acurate, all the problems mentioned above would have been solved...its the bad attitude that keeps me from AMCC events trashy, thats it.

[Peter Smith]

[QUOTE=FROSTY It was soposed to be something pretty darned impressive. Harking back to the "good" old days of the castrol 6 hour.

Perhaps looking back at what went wrong and what went right should be looked at in a positive manner.

I had heard at the previous round that this event was on but the details were very sketchy. As I don't live in Auckland I had to do alot of web surfing. There was no mention of the race on the AMCC website so I kept checking each day. It took ages before the entry forms appeared on the AMCC website.
I got an email the week before the event with entry forms attached.
As has been said before it appears a lack of advertising and emails to other clubs has left a lot of riders unaware the event was even on, which is a real shame as an endurance could have been fun.
Good on AMCC for trying this event, it's just a crying shame that no one south of the bombay's knew about it.
It was a top effort by the Postie boys getting 22 bikes listed for the starting grid positions. WELL DONE.

[wharfy]

I for one am saving my hard earned dollars for the VMCC winter series...I'm looking forward to seeing how they run their club races in comparison.

They run the club events the same way they run their National round - like clockwork

[Peter Smith]

You wont race an AMCC event because they don't run transponders? That's a bit gay. How often have you finished a race so closely to another racer that you've needed a transponder to tell you who was in front?

I agree with you WT.
At the enduro 300 they timed me at 1:05.9 on me old oil cooker GSXR.
If I had a transponder it might have been a 1:06-1:07
I'll keep the bragging right of being in the 1:05's thank you very much.

[White trash]

Its not for that reason WT...its for the attitude shown at a good suggestion AND the poor form we continually get because they ignore their members and don't run (or didn't for the summer series) transponders. I was talking to a bloke this weekend who for the second AMCC meeting in a row had his position on the starting grid fucked up because they got his qualifying times wrong! In round two there were racers who had DNS next to their names after races when they were out there racing....passing people...needless to say they were not impressed. There were DNF's from people who did Finish....it was a dogs bollocks mess....and it seems the leason has not been learnt! If they had transponders on the times would have been acurate, all the problems mentioned above would have been solved...its the bad attitude that keeps me from AMCC events trashy, thats it.

Cheers for the clarification mate, makes more sense indeed.

[sidecar bob]

I got an email the week before the event with entry forms attached.

Seriously, are there people out there organising endurance races that think a competitor can enter a week out & have everything sorted on the day?? W.I.B.F!!

[Robert Taylor]

Has it occured that there may be just too many meetings and too many classes ( in general ) to support our small population ???

[Biggles08]

Has it occured that there may be just too many meetings and too many classes ( in general ) to support our small population ???

Maybe Robert but in this instance I'm pretty certain other factors were alot more in play than that reason.

[sinfull]

Seriously, are there people out there organising endurance races that think a competitor can enter a week out & have everything sorted on the day?? W.I.B.F!!

Well, i'd say email me anyway cause ya never know, but your dead to rights !

I got pointed to silverbullet today by a MX juniors parent and thought cool, had a look ummm cool if your an MX !

Saw that it can be added to by anyone and have to wonder why aint it full of upcoming road race events ?

The new site that the chow's settin up sounds great, but i have to ask why aint the ones we have now being utilised ?

Will the one he is now setting up be utilised to it's fullest or will it be a flash in the pan while there are elections going on (and fade into the past, after these flame threads die down post election)?

Or is it a matter of "oh shit, we've let it slide to this level ! Who the fuck can we blame for this mess" ?

I may be wrong (being a relatively new reader of the flame threads going on around here and i have kept relatively quiet through them) but it's looking to me that rather than saying shoot the secretary of this club, Shoot the ceo of that organisation, etc etc !

Maybe it should be sugested to this secretary of this club, sugested to a ceo of that organisation, that perhaps if any road racing were advertised in with MX sites, that are obviously frequented by motorcycle enthusiasts, like the lad who's father it was who first pointed me at silverbullet, who, for a matter of interest, is carrying the number 2 on his MX bike and i talked him into comming to watch a round at manfield and is now very keen to enter road racing (Year or so) ! But hey all he sees is MX on the site he looks at !

Looks like anyone can do this advertising !
I'm about to go (rather than comment as to the effectiveness of someone i don't know) have a crack at signing up and add anything i might know thats coming up to that site ! So that ppl ie: racers , spectators, prospective racers, prospective spectators, that find it or i tell, can add it to their favourites (because its the only one i know of ATM)

[Two Smoker]

Fuck off brother, I stay as clear of Gav as possible. Everytime I get within six feet of him he tries to stick his pee pee in my ear.

That's sexual harrasment that is.........

Its not sexual harrasment when you keep saying yes... You know you like it...

[Two Smoker]

Has it occured that there may be just too many meetings and too many classes ( in general ) to support our small population ???

I agree Dr Taylor. Wouldn't we be better off merging Superbikes and 600's with something like the Toyota Cup, NZ V8s and GT3 Cup?

No offence to the other classes, but the focus at the Nationals should be SBK and 600SP. This would be far better done in conjunction with top car racing classes, that already have TV coverage. TV coverage is the key to attracting new spectators and sponsorship to the sport.

[Teambwr47]

Turned up and was disappointed by the lack of entries in F2 and Formula Auckland but raced and enjoyed the whole weekend, even if the sunday conditions were poor on track.

I knew there was a meeting on because I bothered to find out when the next round of the AMCC was and what form it was going to take.

Yes i got an email to remind me about it but seems some here expect clubs to chase them for entries....?

yes you can argue that the clubs need to advertise the meetings for crowd attendance but for competitors to, come on get real.

If you want to race how hard is to look for the dates of all clubs, they are almost all without exception somewhere on the internet and if they're not we do still have phones.

I have no idea why the entry was so small, everyone has there own reasons i guess but those that didn't enter missed a good weekend and thats their loss.

Cheers to all that the AMCC, yes sometimes its a bit to casual as a race club but its still fun and to all those that give their time for free for us to race, cheers......

[White trash]

Its not for that reason WT...its for the attitude shown at a good suggestion AND the poor form we continually get because they ignore their members and don't run (or didn't for the summer series) transponders. I was talking to a bloke this weekend who for the second AMCC meeting in a row had his position on the starting grid fucked up because they got his qualifying times wrong! In round two there were racers who had DNS next to their names after races when they were out there racing....passing people...needless to say they were not impressed. There were DNF's from people who did Finish....it was a dogs bollocks mess....and it seems the leason has not been learnt! If they had transponders on the times would have been acurate, all the problems mentioned above would have been solved...its the bad attitude that keeps me from AMCC events trashy, thats it.

Just a quick thought here.

When you raised your concerns, who did you speak to at AMCC and did you introduce yourself?

The other thing is, with your ideas and experience, have any of us stood for a position on the race committee and made a diference?

[Kickaha]

I agree Dr Taylor. Wouldn't we be better off merging Superbikes and 600's with something like the Toyota Cup, NZ V8s and GT3 Cup?

No offence to the other classes, but the focus at the Nationals should be SBK and 600SP. This would be far better done in conjunction with top car racing classes, that already have TV coverage. TV coverage is the key to attracting new spectators and sponsorship to the sport.

Bikes with the cars has been tried before, they only did it one season and raced at Levels and Taupo

Why should we focus on the SBK when they're the smallest class?

Oh yeah I expect like everyone else the cars have to pay for the TV coverage so running with them wont guarantee it

[tas152]

Turned up and was disappointed by the lack of entries in F2 and Formula Auckland but raced and enjoyed the whole weekend, even if the sunday conditions were poor on track.

I knew there was a meeting on because I bothered to find out when the next round of the AMCC was and what form it was going to take.

Yes i got an email to remind me about it but seems some here expect clubs to chase them for entries....?

yes you can argue that the clubs need to advertise the meetings for crowd attendance but for competitors to, come on get real.

If you want to race how hard is to look for the dates of all clubs, they are almost all without exception somewhere on the internet and if they're not we do still have phones.

I have no idea why the entry was so small, everyone has there own reasons i guess but those that didn't enter missed a good weekend and thats their loss.

Cheers to all that the AMCC, yes sometimes its a bit to casual as a race club but its still fun and to all those that give their time for free for us to race, cheers......

+1

Anyone that wants to race can easily find out whats on.

Thanks again to AMCC and all those others behind the scenes who give their time so we can turn up and race. Oh, and a great big extra thanks to all the flag marshalls who had a busy job on Sunday in the rain - you guys rock... and nice to meet some of you

But... IMHO, Puke sucks and is past it's use by date, which may explain why some people don't go there, and the weather forecast was for rain sat and sun....