Another new class. 250s!

[nsrpaul]

wheres this at

going to be a runner in the south island??

[chaos rider]

man i have a few gripes with the rules, i bet whoever wrote them didnt even check the specks on the bikes eligible for this class.

no mention of carbon fiber mufflers
or cdi units

so what does that mean i can mod these or not

tire sizes is that min or max sizes allowed? hyo don't like small tires

250 ninja riders are gona hate these class rules

[Kevin G]

whoa there....slow up. They are proposed rules and are open for you to have your say.

If you want to have some input write your proposed ammenments etc and send to the MNZ office (see the MNZ website for contact details)

[R6_kid:Me]

man i have a few gripes with the rules, i bet whoever wrote them didnt even check the specks on the bikes eligible for this class.

no mention of carbon fiber mufflers
or cdi units

so what does that mean i can mod these or not

tire sizes is that min or max sizes allowed? hyo don't like small tires

250 ninja riders are gona hate these class rules

CDI is part of ignition - it says "Ignition, Engine control module/unit (ICM, ECU, ECM) and wiring loom must remain standard

I'd say they aren't too fussed on what type of exhaust you use as long as it is safe and not stupidly loud.

The idea is that everyone is running the same or at least very similar machinery - which means that it is rider skill that should determine who wins.

[Drogen Omen]

What category do Honda NSR 250's come under?

Also where is this thing gona be held? South Island, North Island, palmy, taupo...?

[Benk]

What category do Honda NSR 250's come under?

Also where is this thing gona be held? South Island, North Island, palmy, taupo...?

F3 man.

A 250 diesel wont have a chance against the 2 strokes.

[Kevin G]

What category do Honda NSR 250's come under?

Also where is this thing gona be held? South Island, North Island, palmy, taupo...?

It will run nationally, talk to your local RR club and put pressure on them to make space in upcoming race programs to include this class. These development classes need to given a space at racedays so we can foster the young and bring new blood into the sport. This must be done at local levels and by MNZ. It may start with one or two and yes that might seem painfull but it will not happen overnight and we all have to give up a little of our racedays to make time for this important development class (just like the current streetstock) Any club that is not running a street stock really needs to wake up and get on board.

The 250 class is not "in" yet, it is in discussion so if you have any ideas forward them to MNZ.

Kevin Goddard

[Benk]

It will run nationally, talk to your local RR club and put pressure on them to make space in upcoming race programs to include this class. These development classes need to given a space at racedays so we can foster the young and bring new blood into the sport. This must be done at local levels and by MNZ. It may start with one or two and yes that might seem painfull but it will not happen overnight and we all have to give up a little of our racedays to make time for this important development class (just like the current streetstock) Any club that is not running a street stock really needs to wake up and get on board.

The 250 class is not "in" yet, it is in discussion so if you have any ideas forward them to MNZ.

Kevin Goddard

Are 250s (2strokes) a good development class anymore? Considering there are bugger all manufacturers out there making them anymore, meaning your looking at 15 year old bikes, which wont be cheap. How many development classes do we need? (buckets, streetstock, 125, 250 4strokes and protwin at the moment). At any club meets Ive been to it already it feels like there are too many classes without adding another class in which wont be able to run with any other classes (f3 grids are always full, as are supersport).

This is why the 250 4stroke class is so good, cheap as chips, plenty of them still being made.

250 2strokes should be destined for the f3 grid (with some letting up on the far too restrictive rules for them.)

[Kevin G]

Are 250s (2strokes) a good development class anymore? Considering there are bugger all manufacturers out there making them anymore, meaning your looking at 15 year old bikes, which wont be cheap. How many development classes do we need? (buckets, streetstock, 125, 250 4strokes and protwin at the moment). At any club meets Ive been to it already it feels like there are too many classes without adding another class in which wont be able to run with any other classes (f3 grids are always full, as are supersport).

This is why the 250 4stroke class is so good, cheap as chips, plenty of them still being made.

250 2strokes should be destined for the f3 grid (with some letting up on the far too restrictive rules for them.)

The new proposed 250 twin class would run with streetstock at current meets and it is seen that eventually as the old RG's etc get too old and tired that these bikes (250 twin 4 strokes) would take over.

250 two strokes are in F3 now, not sure what you meant here?

Kevin Goddard

[Benk]

The new proposed 250 twin class would run with streetstock at current meets and it is seen that eventually as the old RG's etc get too old and tired that these bikes (250 twin 4 strokes) would take over.

250 two strokes are in F3 now, not sure what you meant here?

Kevin Goddard

Haha, Im not sure what I meant either. I misread your original post. I thought you were talking about bringing the 250 2stroke class back in, as well as 250 4s. Hence my rant. But I was wrong.

Carry on fighting the good fight sir

[oyster]

Kevin G summed it up pretty well as I understood this idea of 250 twin four strokes. A lot of effort has gone into Streetstock being the ideal entry level development class especially for youth. Over the last year or so a lot of discussion has centered around: "what happens when all the Rg 150's eventually die?" We have a "5 year plan" for Rg's now, but it's no garantee, so a good idea is introduce a possible successor. The 250 twin four stroke is the only practical one, and it has a connection with "industry" which might encourage it. It remains to be seen, but I imagine the RG will still "rule" on the track, so it's intro through the existing Streetstock class will not upset any existing balance.
As Kev says, get you ideas into MNZ via the site.

[Kickaha]

How many development classes do we need? (buckets, streetstock, 125, 250 4strokes and protwin at the moment).

Buckets are not a development class and have never really been used as one in most areas, the exception probabaly being Invercargill when Oyster lived there

The average age of the competitors would be higher than most other classes and they are a proper Formula class

[vindy500]

so is this likely to happen and if so where would the races be? all over nz or one place? the gpx might wanna come along...

[koba]

so is this likely to happen and if so where would the races be? all over nz or one place? the gpx might wanna come along...

Anyone reading this thread who owns a 250 twin or any 250 should know that you can already race them.
They are eligable for streetstock and while they don't have the same level of straight-line poke as a 250/4 they can still do OK.

All you need to do is prep the bike for the track (Wire sump plug, replace anti-freeze with water etc..) More info here.

Get out there and give it a go, don't worry if your bike isn't the latest and the flashest!

[Benk]

Buckets are not a development class and have never really been used as one in most areas, the exception probabaly being Invercargill when Oyster lived there

The average age of the competitors would be higher than most other classes and they are a proper Formula class

OK. Splitting hairs though eh. Its cheap racing was what I was getting at. And its a moot point anyway, as I was arguing with someone who was in agreement