Questions?

[Nasty]

Problem is that elections need people to vote be it for change or to remain the same.

From what I am seeing and hearing from issues around the shop floor there needs to be a change. Continuing problem with people misquoting and publishing those misquotes (just because sandra wrote something does that make it true????) ... if you see a need for change - VOTE FOR IT.

I believe that you need to vote if you have the opportunity .. you have no right to complain if you don't ...

[Nasty]

Is that the one budda?

Hey poos .. when does voting close?

[Billy]

Hi cow poos yes thats the one ,and a classic of misinformation and twisted scenarios, for the record i dont remember seeing to much posted by Jim T apart from easily proven fact ,so this is just what i predicted in an earlier post would happen ,

This kind of personal venom and vindicativeness has no place in our sport, it makes one question what else is going on if one has to resort to personal attack .

I ,would have preferred to see our President answer some of the questions members have been trying to get answers for.
Iwould have liked to hear sound reasoned arguments as to why the Ceo has been allowed to interfere in the manner he has within our sport .

I would have loved to see explainations for sparc funding ,what its spent on ,and what the office is doing to increase it ,

instead we got paragraghs of Jim T the anti christ, well i think Budha clearly showed whose propagating the untruths and its the current President

If the President and CEO could ever just get over their obvious inability to accept that Jim T has sound ideas and the track record to prove that hes been there done that,our sport would move on immeserably.

Who bought Tv to Motor cycling Jim T
who worked to bring mnz into something approaching reality as far as media goes ,Jim T
who worked tirelessly to see original website set up ,Jim T
who persuaded his wife to let him buy a truck instead of an overseas holiday a couple of years ago and then lent it to Road racing for just the price of diesal and had it sit in the south Island for a month with all the road race equipment on it,Jim T

Theres more but everyone knows the one thing you cant question about Jim T is his love of and committment to the sport.

Who is the biggest installer of Christmas for the major mall chains thru out the country including main streets and outdoor trees, Jim T
and our President refers to him as an Atom bomb in a derogatory manner!

This is just the man our sport needs!!!!!!!

At the end of the day this is another mnz pr disaster well done sandra

I will begin this post by saying I consider myself too be a long time freind of Jim Tuckerman and I am well aware of where hes been and what hes done and is capable of.
However you begin your post by stating that Sandras comments are personal and vindictive and uncalled for.Then you proceed with a personal attack on Sandra yourself.Quite frankly I thought her posting was indepth and informative and was just what everybody has been asking for,The other side of the story.I feel you would be better advised too explain to us.The members.What it is that Jim is going to do too fix the mess that is roadracing at the present moment.I dont think anybody really cares to a point whether Johnny stole Jimmys apples or when and if we can believe the incumbent President,Then that hasnt happened anyway.While I cant confirm Sandras statement is 100% true,I know that some of it is and until I see some proof to the contrary its her word against yours.If you have some proof,Lets see it otherwise leave Jim too explain too us how hes going to fix things.I would far rather see a detailed list of remedies than a thread full of innuendos.I have no doubt in my mind that Jim would make an excellent President under the right circumstances,But why would we vote for change while theres no mention of his plan too improve the state of our sport???

[cowpoos]

Hey poos .. when does voting close?

14th may 2009 is the magic date I believe chicky

[Nasty]

I will begin this post by saying I consider myself too be a long time freind of Jim Tuckerman and I am well aware of where hes been and what hes done and is capable of.
However you begin your post by stating that Sandras comments are personal and vindictive and uncalled for.Then you proceed with a personal attack on Sandra yourself.Quite frankly I thought her posting was indepth and informative and was just what everybody has been asking for,The other side of the story.I feel you would be better advised too explain to us.The members.What it is that Jim is going to do too fix the mess that is roadracing at the present moment.I dont think anybody really cares to a point whether Johnny stole Jimmys apples or when and if we can believe the incumbent President,Then that hasnt happened anyway.While I cant confirm Sandras statement is 100% true,I know that some of it is and until I see some proof to the contrary its her word against yours.If you have some proof,Lets see it otherwise leave Jim too explain too us how hes going to fix things.I would far rather see a detailed list of remedies than a thread full of innuendos.I have no doubt in my mind that Jim would make an excellent President under the right circumstances,But why would we vote for change while theres no mention of his plan too improve the state of our sport???

Good idea ..

[BJT666]

Morning all,

Be assured my reply is not going to have 1958 words.

I am extremely disappointed that SANDRA has seen fit to try and justify her actions and attack me at the same time.

I was hoping this Election would be fought on the issues, but I suppose when you have no replies, you are forced to revert to tried and proven methods (Just look at the Noel Curr/Marlborough saga).

For the record below is the email I sent out:

Evening All,

Unfortunately Paul Stewart has withdrawn his name for re-appointment as Road Race Commissioner.

He sighted the lack of support and interference from the Office, along with the lack of support from the Board over the withdrawal of the $10K from the budget as the main reasons.

Unfortunately this will probably also mean, the Sponsors and the Industry will take this opportunity to withdraw from supporting road racing as well.

If you have any questions, either drop me an email or call on 021 725 614

Regards

Jim Tuckerman


Sandra’s statement clearly shows that the current Administration is more than happy to be dictated to by the Paid employees.

No one wishes to argue that there should not be financial controls in place, but surely it is the Paid employees’ (CEO) role to work along side the Volunteer (The Commissioner) to achieve the best result, not dictate what will happen.

I am determined not to get into a he said, she said exercise as I believe that will just turn the VOTER off.

The way forward as I see it is in the analysis of the current systems in MNZ’s Office, establish exactly what every one does and then create a PLAN.

MNZ is all of US, not just the OFFICE or even the BOARD.

I believe the President and the Board needs to talk to the MEMBERS find out exactly where they want MNZ to GO.

Then take the assets WE have and make a PLAN to achieve those GOALS.

At present we are operating what I call “Management by Crisis”, we seem to move from Fire to Fire.

There is a famous saying:

“HE WHO FAILS TO PLAN, PLANS TO FAIL”

It is time for CHANGE the current modus operandi obviously doesn’t work so let’s try something different.

VOTE FOR CHANGE

[tas152]

Morning all,

Be assured my reply is not going to have 1958 words.

I am extremely disappointed that SANDRA has seen fit to try and justify her actions and attack me at the same time.

I was hoping this Election would be fought on the issues, but I suppose when you have no replies, you are forced to revert to tried and proven methods (Just look at the Noel Curr/Marlborough saga).

For the record below is the email I sent out:

Evening All,

Unfortunately Paul Stewart has withdrawn his name for re-appointment as Road Race Commissioner.

He sighted the lack of support and interference from the Office, along with the lack of support from the Board over the withdrawal of the $10K from the budget as the main reasons.

Unfortunately this will probably also mean, the Sponsors and the Industry will take this opportunity to withdraw from supporting road racing as well.

If you have any questions, either drop me an email or call on 021 725 614

Regards

Jim Tuckerman


Sandra’s statement clearly shows that the current Administration is more than happy to be dictated to by the Paid employees.

No one wishes to argue that there should not be financial controls in place, but surely it is the Paid employees’ (CEO) role to work along side the Volunteer (The Commissioner) to achieve the best result, not dictate what will happen.

I am determined not to get into a he said, she said exercise as I believe that will just turn the VOTER off.

The way forward as I see it is in the analysis of the current systems in MNZ’s Office, establish exactly what every one does and then create a PLAN.

MNZ is all of US, not just the OFFICE or even the BOARD.

I believe the President and the Board needs to talk to the MEMBERS find out exactly where they want MNZ to GO.

Then take the assets WE have and make a PLAN to achieve those GOALS.

At present we are operating what I call “Management by Crisis”, we seem to move from Fire to Fire.

There is a famous saying:

“HE WHO FAILS TO PLAN, PLANS TO FAIL”

It is time for CHANGE the current modus operandi obviously doesn’t work so let’s try something different.

VOTE FOR CHANGE

Thanks for that Jim. Concise and to the point.

Albert Einstein once said “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”.

Get the elections over with, get reconciled and then get the plan/change in place ASAP - whoever wins.

[suzuki mama]

Billy,
unless we are reading diffrent versions of what our current president wrote i find your complaining im attacking her a little odd.
Is it all right for the current President to launch what came only be described as half truths ,un truths and deliberate manipulation of the facts and expect to get away with it.
You ask if i have proof,
1-At Paeroa i was standing quite close to where the commentary was takng place, along with others in the Motorcycle family and Industry, i watched Jim T .stop and talk to a current Board Member and was close enough to realise from the conversation that he was letting the Board member know his intentions
If the President is going to claim the moral high ground here, why didnt the board member intervene, my recollection was he seemed to be enjoying the situation.

2-from others who were around at Paeroa in fact 2 who were parked opposite when Paul Lance drove up with his father in front seat. in the interests of honesty here, i believe also present was the owner of a motorcycle shop some sidecar members jims crew and wife a very cordial brief conversation took place as Jim was loading truck at the time .
Jims wife was at the window of Paul Lances vehicle and the comment made to me was it all was friendly and helpful , Perhaps you would like to ph Jims wife to hear exactly what was said.

3-Its well known a couple of years ago JT trod on a few toes at Paeroa by pointing out safety issues ,a big kerfuffle occurred but it is interesting to note the changes he asked for were made
It is also interesting to know as the Industry does how many years JTS TV company filmed Paeroa at cost and found sponsership for it as Paeroa didnt want to spend money ,they fall out with Jt and all of a sudden they have money to spend with a rival company,


4- It was interesting to see that it was jim at Paeroa making sure the naming right sponser got maximum coverage ,he was observed early morning placing the signage for the tv company to get maximum effect in their shots

5- The President infers the Road Race media budget was 50,000 interesting ,where is this reflected in the accounts?
my question to Jim T is how much was he paid?
and if it is as i suspect thousands less than her stated fiqure ,where did money go or are we being deliberately misled?
or is the President so out of touch with the office she just accepts any figure.

I have more but this is long enough,

[BJT666]

Suzuki Mama said
The President infers the Road Race media budget was 50,000 interesting ,where is this reflected in the accounts?
my question to Jim T is how much was he paid?
and if it is as i suspect thousands less than her stated fiqure ,where did money go or are we being deliberately misled?
or is the President so out of touch with the office she just accepts any figure.

I have more but this is long enough,[/QUOTE]


The simple answer Suzuki Mama.

Motorsport Network Ltd (Jim Tuckerman) was paid $4668.75 to do the Road race media for 2009 Season, of which $393.75 was for photography.

I am sure $50K or nothing like it, has ever been in Paul Stewart's Budget


This would clearly show some discrepancies in Sandra's statement, however we need to stay on subject.

IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE

VOTE JIM TUCKERMAN FOR PRESIDENT

[Shaun]

I DO NOT believe Sandra is even writting her own emails? They look like they are being written by a MAN, Not a Women???

She NEVER ever made mistakes like this email re the $50K

perhaps this actually helps support the idea of

IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE, VOTE JIM T

[Billy]

Morning all,

Be assured my reply is not going to have 1958 words.

I am extremely disappointed that SANDRA has seen fit to try and justify her actions and attack me at the same time.

I was hoping this Election would be fought on the issues, but I suppose when you have no replies, you are forced to revert to tried and proven methods (Just look at the Noel Curr/Marlborough saga).

For the record below is the email I sent out:

Evening All,

Unfortunately Paul Stewart has withdrawn his name for re-appointment as Road Race Commissioner.

He sighted the lack of support and interference from the Office, along with the lack of support from the Board over the withdrawal of the $10K from the budget as the main reasons.

Unfortunately this will probably also mean, the Sponsors and the Industry will take this opportunity to withdraw from supporting road racing as well.

If you have any questions, either drop me an email or call on 021 725 614

Regards

Jim Tuckerman


Sandra’s statement clearly shows that the current Administration is more than happy to be dictated to by the Paid employees.

No one wishes to argue that there should not be financial controls in place, but surely it is the Paid employees’ (CEO) role to work along side the Volunteer (The Commissioner) to achieve the best result, not dictate what will happen.

I am determined not to get into a he said, she said exercise as I believe that will just turn the VOTER off.

The way forward as I see it is in the analysis of the current systems in MNZ’s Office, establish exactly what every one does and then create a PLAN.

MNZ is all of US, not just the OFFICE or even the BOARD.

I believe the President and the Board needs to talk to the MEMBERS find out exactly where they want MNZ to GO.

Then take the assets WE have and make a PLAN to achieve those GOALS.

At present we are operating what I call “Management by Crisis”, we seem to move from Fire to Fire.

There is a famous saying:

“HE WHO FAILS TO PLAN, PLANS TO FAIL”

It is time for CHANGE the current modus operandi obviously doesn’t work so let’s try something different.

VOTE FOR CHANGE

Well said Jim,Thats what we want to see and hear,Not the sniping and backstabbing displayed up til now.Good,Honest solutions

[Billy]

Billy,
unless we are reading diffrent versions of what our current president wrote i find your complaining im attacking her a little odd.
Is it all right for the current President to launch what came only be described as half truths ,un truths and deliberate manipulation of the facts and expect to get away with it.
You ask if i have proof,

No we are not reading different versions,The point I was making was that atleast we had a version of the otherside of the story,Which people had been waiting too hear.Under no circumstances did I say it was gospel and it is dissappointing to note that it was clearly not written by Sandra herself.I also was at Paeroa and in fact was having a conversation with Jim when the commentator made the comments that upset Jim and saw his initial reaction.However I have known Jim long enough too know he would handle it in the manner required,Furthermore I have NO need to speak to Kathy.Jim rang me late Sunday night and we discussed my earlier posting and what had happened and what he intended to do to try and turn things around.Thats the sort of information we are looking for and Jims word is good enough for me.Your comments regarding proof hold merit and is much more relevant to moving the sport forward and that is whats required.Not more "He said She said bullshit" positive remedies too move the sport forward.We already know there are problems so lets just concentrate on fixing them rather than dwelling on the past

[suzuki mama]

Totally agree, Billy.
In the interests of a constructive path forwards as we know the candidates or some of them are monitering this site,
I have some questions for Todd,Carmen. Jim and Sandra,

Who do you see the CEO reporting to the Board or the President?

What is your idea of the role of the Operations manager, as distinct from that of the Ceo?

What exactly has been done in the field of club developement this year and with which clubs?

mnz is currently operating outside its constitution ,what do you intend to do if elected to bring it back to where it should be.

Would you support an independant review by sparc of the whole sport including role of the office to give guidance as to how we can move forward.

What would you do to ensure the code of conduct is seen to be used in a fair and honest manner.

Would you support having minutes of all meetings board included available on web- site.

Finally for Sandra .can you confirm that the independant voting auditor is not the same person or from the same firm as the person who signed off accounts

[wharfy]

The Board also received a complaint from the owner of DRD magazine, Paul Lance, that at the same event, Mr Tuckerman leaned through the driver’s window of his (Mr Lance’s car) and began a tirade of abuse which greatly upset and offended both Mr Lance, and his elderly father who was seated in the back seat.

The Board has since received a further complaint about Mr Tuckerman, from an MNZ staff member.
The staff member has recorded that, on 22 April 2009, Mr Tuckerman telephoned the office expressing concern about the accidental omission of the Junior MX Commissioner’s name from the MNZ Annual Report.

After introducing himself, it was recorded that Mr Tuckerman said, “Well, I’m very angry, so angry…my wife is running around hiding any small things that I could throw at the moment. Do you have a copy of the annual report”

He then went on to say, “This has got to be the biggest f#$k up the office has made since the Noel Curr thing. Now I want you to roll up that report and walk into your CEO’s office and shove it up his nose, coz it’s the biggest f@#k up. I’m telling you, you guys had better get prepared for what’s to come when this hits the streets of Auckland – I’d say it will already be out there and Auckland will get theirs first”.

I would like to know if this is true , did these events take place ?

[k14]

I would like to know if this is true , did these events take place ?

Ditto! I'm all for change but if the above quotes are true then there is no way I would want someone that conducts themselves in that manner the president of anything! I hope it is a gross exaggeration because my vote is already cast.