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    Quote Originally Posted by BJT666 View Post
    Wharfy,

    I don't think anyone is questioning the Auditors ability, as you point out counting 199 votes can't be hard.

    However MNZ's Constitution clearly states:

    The Voting Auditors shall be independent of MNZ

    Oxford Dictionary definition of independent

    • adjective
    1 free from outside control or influence.
    2 not depending on another for livelihood or subsistence.
    3 not connected with another; separate.

    However we also understand she is MNZ's accountant, so:

    1 free from outside control or influence.
    Works for MNZ as accountant (?? How is that free from influence)

    2 not depending on another for livelihood or subsistence.
    Paid by MNZ to do accounts (at least partly dependent on MNZ for income)

    3 not connected with another; separate.
    Is MNZ’s accountant (how is that separate).

    So go figure
    It is not her ability that is being questioned it is her integrity and professionalism and I still think it is does nothing to help your cause - but hey it's your election campaign, KiwiBiker is full of people with advice on everything and anything and I'm just another of them
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    Think the issue is not with Ms Stables herself, for me its rather the fact that she has been put in an akward situation by accepting a position offered to her by people who SHOULD have known better and thought twice, given the very clear rules ......
    AND following assurances given from above at at least one previous AGM that she was not the "same person" who was involved with the books

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    Voting Auditor

    Well said Budha
    I also remember being clearly told at an AGM by our elected officials that the voting auditor was not the same person .
    I dont see what BJT666 said as an attack on this person ,he just pointed out and rightly so that there was once again complete disregard for our stated rules and constitution.
    If it says must be independant then thats what supposed to happen ,
    The thing that bothers me is the simply this, voting figures from last year dont add up. given how important the vote count is this year, and the problems with members getting their packs andd those that didnt having to notify the CEO they were going to use photo copies ,our club will be examining any apparrent anomilies in voting,
    we are also compiling a list of all who voted and canvassing other clubs for their numbers,
    to often in the past we have let ourselves be steamrolered at AGM time and things have been passed that were regretible
    This year the clubs need to examine the remits and vote a fair percentage of them down ,
    The first one would be not accepting the micky mouse set of accounts,
    if anyone still thinks they are totally kosher take them to a chartered accountant and see what is said about good business accounting, seems to have gone the same way as our legal advice.
    Strange event of this week would have to be the article about our current President in a bike magazine with strong links to the purple circle,
    While everyone applauds the current presidents past contribution to the sport ,did anyone else note the term INDUSTRY INSIDER
    Given the ringing endorsement from the head of the importers and distributors Association for her opponent and a deafning silence in regards to her , someone is looking thru very rose coloured glasses

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