Club behaviour?

[PirateJafa]

The first rule of Fight Auckland Uni Scooter'n Motorbike Club is: you do not talk about AUSM Club. The second rule of AUSM Club is: you DO NOT talk about AUSM Club!

[motorbyclist]

i think what we can gather thus far, dushi, is that no; we do not need a code of conduct beyond self responsibility and common sense, which i hope we all try to maintain in our daily lives anyway


btw it's NOT a patch, it's a "logo"

[The Pastor]

dushy dose raise a point, its much eaiser to tell someone to change if they are breaking the code of conduct etc.

lets put it into perspective, ages ago on the cheese cutter campain ride, carver and sidewinder (or was it pathos) did wheelies etc this was picked up by the media. Now if they were SMC how do you think auckland Uni would feel about one of thier clubs pulling wheelies.

on the other hand, fuck the rules.

[motorbyclist]

well 99.9% of the riders there had the common sense to behave on that ride - rules can't account for idiocy, if anything they encourage it

[ital916]

sorry sam, I assumed it was you as the post had two views, one of them being you....i dont retract my 12yr old statement tho *wanted me to get rid of the boobie avatar..grumble*.

Funny that a club with no rules, fuck yeah, I is gonna go pulls some burnies in the carpark later..WOOT.......not.

Thought the more more active members of the club would be pro for it. Renegade gets it...again.

I wont delete this thread ross, it encourages discussion *bashing*. Oh and r6, you can try slap my black ass around but you might end up picking pieces of bottle out of your head again lol.

Oh well guess you guys are to badass for me, Ill let the point rest in peace.

[carver]

dushy dose raise a point, its much eaiser to tell someone to change if they are breaking the code of conduct etc.

lets put it into perspective, ages ago on the cheese cutter campain ride, carver and sidewinder (or was it pathos) did wheelies etc this was picked up by the media. Now if they were SMC how do you think auckland Uni would feel about one of thier clubs pulling wheelies.

on the other hand, fuck the rules.

it was sidewinder and i!
the media did not know about us

quasi made a big deal out of it and had a cry about how it was being made a big deal!

most bins wins!

[gavjn]

wow... hostile

[Squiggles]

Funny that a club with no rules, fuck yeah, I is gonna go pulls some burnies in the carpark later..WOOT.......not.

Dont pull out of a debate before its truly started.
You want us to rule our members? To have the can and cant do's as if we're a secret society, that is somewhat amusing. We have informal rules, based on common sense, such as: You wear a helmet, you dont get pissed and ride... Do we need more? Who are we to dictate to others and force our ideals upon them?
Quote me and answer the questions!

[macros87]

wow... hostile

that happens.. just remember the rest of us can be and just plain nicer

[bomma]

sorry sam, I assumed it was you as the post had two views, one of them being you....i dont retract my 12yr old statement tho *wanted me to get rid of the boobie avatar..grumble*.

Funny that a club with no rules, fuck yeah, I is gonna go pulls some burnies in the carpark later..WOOT.......not.

Thought the more more active members of the club would be pro for it. Renegade gets it...again.

I wont delete this thread ross, it encourages discussion *bashing*. Oh and r6, you can try slap my black ass around but you might end up picking pieces of bottle out of your head again lol.

Oh well guess you guys are to badass for me, Ill let the point rest in peace.

Dont pull out of a debate before its truly started.
You want us to rule our members? To have the can and cant do's as if we're a secret society, that is somewhat amusing. We have informal rules, based on common sense, such as: You wear a helmet, you dont get pissed and ride... Do we need more? Who are we to dictate to others and force our ideals upon them?
Quote me and answer the questions!

although you do make a good point dushi re: certain unacceptable behaviours being declared unacceptable by a code of conduct, it is not exactly moral to impose it onto members of a university motorcycle club. how would you feel if the drinking club imposed on it's members a rule that everyone had to get smashed in public at least once a year??

but on a bigger picture note, i think it is a good idea from the view point that the more active members proactively inform people who are doing dumb shit around uni ie. cp36 (or whatever the hell it's called) like people who park in an idiotic fashion, or people who gun it around there, or people who come in and/or exit through alfred/symonds sts. although ,since chris has left most of the gunning it, burnouts and wheelies have ceased...

[motorbyclist]

although ,since chris has left most of the gunning it, burnouts and wheelies have ceased...

except for those done by a certain scooter rider....

[Real_Wolf]

Above and beyond the "do we need rules" we have to think about how the hell would we enforce them?

The only actual clout the club has is "you get kicked out of the club" which means, well, your not officially in the AUSMC.

So beyond kicking people out, after which they'd still continue going and doing whatever rule they broke to get kicked out, how would we convince them to do otherwise other than explaining it to them and hoping they listen.

Thus, no rules, no regulations, just plain common sense

[Phurrball]

Was something specific concerning you young Dushy? What sort of rules did you have in mind? Code of conduct type? Constitutional??

sorry sam, I assumed it was you as the post had two views, one of them being you....i dont retract my 12yr old statement tho *wanted me to get rid of the boobie avatar..grumble*

I'd have thought that as the OP, you would have sought to keep it on point.

FWIW the avatar is rather pre-pubescent and smacks of sneaking behind the bike sheds at intermediate with an ill-gotten tug mag. Boobies are great, but those are distracting and annoying. Make it static FFS!

Thought the more more active members of the club would be pro for it. Renegade gets it...again.

RM and yourself miss the point that rules already exist.

NZ laws; university rules; AUSA rules. Why duplicate?

What you're talking about WRT teh cheesecutter ride is PR: rules allow consequences for a breach.

No rule could have prevented dumbass antics at the cheesecutter ride.

There were cameras and a crowd...certain people always play up given the oxygen of publicity.

As stated, 99.9% DID follow the CONVENTIONS of common sense and courtesy. Conventions have no binding effect other than on the conscience of those involved.

That's where we're at as a club. I quite like it this way. We all play pretty nicely most of the time.

I wont delete this thread ross, it encourages discussion *bashing*. Oh and r6, you can try slap my black ass around but you might end up picking pieces of bottle out of your head again lol.

Oh well guess you guys are to badass for me, Ill let the point rest in peace.

Re read my post.

I never said delete the thread. I implied that a prudent mod might delete the thread based on the direction your second post was taking it. And that Sir Squiggs wouldn't as he is ultra hands-off, which is fine as people can and do hang themselves with their own words.

I'll discuss many a thing all day. I discuss well. I like to discuss.

FWIW I'm glad there has been some discussion, although I think that it's a moot point as there is nothing to remedy as the club does not need rules per se.

The only thing I can think of would be a more comprehensive constitution? Though I don't think that's what you were getting at, as that's procedural rules rather than operational rules.

Oh, and I quite agree - the club design is a logo, not a patch. Patches ask for trubs.

Re the rules for the carpark - these are pretty clear, though I'm not sure if they're formalised.

[HungusMaximist]

Just some basic common courtesy or whatever code of conduct will do.

If you see some stupid shit, tell them as it is. We're not here to enforce anything but we should all make a habit of informing people so that they don't ruin it for the rest us. Simple really.

Btw, we're all adults here... Well most us are anyway...

[Danae]

except for those done by a certain scooter rider....

I'm still not quite sure if it was fail or win. My brakelight still works so win in that respect