Friends dog sudden death. Info please.

**McDuck** · 5th May 2009, 18:25

Originally Posted by Dave Lobster

That's fucking unlucky. This fellow (in pic) ate a tin of Quality Street. Half with wrappers, half he opened. He survived.. with a runny arse for a few days.

Its a dalmation thing.

**wbks** · 5th May 2009, 18:33

The thing about dogs dying over a choc bar is exadurated a lot. It's been proven that for the average sized dog, a nice rich packet of choco will give it a little more than a bad hair day, but it would have to either be a tiny old dog or eat a shit load more than a dog would normally help itself to to die... Edit: Just saw you said it's a dalmatian thing... Probably

**martybabe** · 5th May 2009, 18:36

Originally Posted by Dave Lobster

That's fucking unlucky. This fellow (in pic) ate a tin of Quality Street. Half with wrappers, half he opened. He survived.. with a runny arse for a few days.

great picture, poor fuggin wabbit. Cool look in his eyes too "yeah I killed the fluffy bunny whata you gonna do about it!"

**McDuck** · 5th May 2009, 18:37

BTW the dog was young, only 4-5 months old...

**flame** · 5th May 2009, 18:46

Sorry to hear about your mates pooch. Could be poisoning, as mentioned above, or epilepsy. But fitting and a quick death is common to both 1080 and Metaldehyde poisoning (garden slug bait). Though 90% of 1080 poison cases dont live long enough for a trip to the vets, where as Metaldehyde has a slower onset. Just a thought, people have cabbages in there gardens at the mo (I think). Worth checking.

**McDuck** · 5th May 2009, 18:53

Originally Posted by flame

Sorry to hear about your mates pooch. Could be poisoning, as mentioned above, or epilepsy. But fitting and a quick death is common to both 1080 and Metaldehyde poisoning (garden slug bait). Though 90% of 1080 poison cases dont live long enough for a trip to the vets, where as Metaldehyde has a slower onset. Just a thought, people have cabbages in there gardens at the mo (I think). Worth checking.

Would not take a lot, about half a gram per kg is enough to run the risk....

**flame** · 5th May 2009, 18:55

Originally Posted by McDuck

Would not take a lot, about half a gram per kg is enough to run the risk....

yep, thats about it. Its lethal stuff. A lot of people are unaware of the dangers of it. Iv seen many dogs come into the clinic that have actually sniffed it out in the garage, and scoffed a whole box!

**McDuck** · 5th May 2009, 19:01

Originally Posted by flame

yep, thats about it. Its lethal stuff. A lot of people are unaware of the dangers of it. Iv seen many dogs come into the clinic that have actually sniffed it out in the garage, a scoffed a whole box!

Wouldnt be a lot of hope there, at least with a medium size dog by the time it is spread the dog would need to work for a lethal dose. This also shows why in large (read commercial) quantities they come in a (very) strong plastic bottle that i can damn near jump on with out braking.

**martybabe** · 5th May 2009, 19:59

Originally Posted by flame

Sorry to hear about your mates pooch. Could be poisoning, as mentioned above, or epilepsy. But fitting and a quick death is common to both 1080 and Metaldehyde poisoning (garden slug bait). Though 90% of 1080 poison cases dont live long enough for a trip to the vets, where as Metaldehyde has a slower onset. Just a thought, people have cabbages in there gardens at the mo (I think). Worth checking.

Hey thanks for the pointer Flame.

Sadly we won't ever find the cause now, my friend didn't wan't her dog autopsied so she's taken it home and buried it under a Tamarillo? bush which is now called a Samarillo bush after the poor dog.

It's a sad thing but worse things happen I guess, thank you all for your contributions, give your pets a bit of fuss, you never know how long they're gonna be our pals. Cheers.

**Shadows** · 5th May 2009, 20:37

Originally Posted by McDuck

Would not take a lot, about half a gram per kg is enough to run the risk....

So.... 15 grams for a 30kg mutt?

Excellent. That will save me the otherwise inevitable firearms charge.

**Mom** · 5th May 2009, 21:54

Originally Posted by flame

yep, thats about it. Its lethal stuff. A lot of people are unaware of the dangers of it. Iv seen many dogs come into the clinic that have actually sniffed it out in the garage, and scoffed a whole box!

I used to grow flowers commercially and we used mesurol in large quantities. If I recall we used to buy it in 5kg boxes. One day, one of the chicks working for us was baiting the beds and had an open box on the floor of the pack house. She came back to refill her scoop to find the neighbours friggen dog, snout down chomping like mad in the box. She grabbed the dog and ran to the neighbours place pounding on the door. Neighbour rings the vet who says bring the dog in right away. Less than 5 mins after being caught eating this shit the poor dog was fitting in the back of her car.

The dog survived, but was very sick for a couple of days. We felt terrible, but the dog should not have been in our pack house at 8am in the morning. Slug bait is extremely toxic, but a dog would have to eat a reasonable amount to get really sick. This dumb mutt would never have been able to eat enough if she had attempted to hoover up what we scattered in the beds in the greenhouse. Leaving boxes/bags of it lying around is receipe for disaster for sure.

**McDuck** · 5th May 2009, 22:12

Originally Posted by Shadows

So.... 15 grams for a 30kg mutt?

Excellent. That will save me the otherwise inevitable firearms charge.

If fully ingested that dose will have a 50% chance of killing a rat, so best make it 25-50.

Ofton the animal has a survival reflex of vomiting the posien which can save the animal but ofton they will need the help of a vet.

**McDuck** · 5th May 2009, 22:14

Originally Posted by martybabe

Hey thanks for the pointer Flame.

Sadly we won't ever find the cause now, my friend didn't wan't her dog autopsied so she's taken it home and buried it under a Tamarillo? bush which is now called a Samarillo bush after the poor dog.

It's a sad thing but worse things happen I guess, thank you all for your contributions, give your pets a bit of fuss, you never know how long they're gonna be our pals. Cheers.

Have a look around the shed et for anything that has been bitten etc. And be carefull with yours lol

**Lias** · 5th May 2009, 22:40

Originally Posted by flame

Sorry to hear about your mates pooch. Could be poisoning, as mentioned above, or epilepsy. But fitting and a quick death is common to both 1080 and Metaldehyde poisoning (garden slug bait). Though 90% of 1080 poison cases dont live long enough for a trip to the vets, where as Metaldehyde has a slower onset. Just a thought, people have cabbages in there gardens at the mo (I think). Worth checking.

Daughters ex boyfriends dog got into our snail pellets one day.. Was fine for a few hours then carked it in the space of 5 minutes.