These lines an't too bad here
Any body who learnt anything from that video lacks the common sense to be riding a motorcycle.
"I am a licenced motorcycle instructor, I agree with dangerousbastard, no point in repeating what he said."
"read what Steve says. He's right."
"What Steve said pretty much summed it up."
"I did axactly as you said and it worked...!!"
"Wow, Great advise there DB."
WTB: Hyosung bikes or going or not.
Made me a bit homesick too !!
Really enjoyed that link,..and I'm so glad that the roads around Kerikeri aren't so built up. However, the surfaces are not as good as the UK (or elsewhere in NZ for that matter). I definitely benefited from the vid (I've got quite a lot of common sense too BTW)
Yes,...as a noob, I try to do the running commentary and it does make you more aware. This has encouraged me to keep it up.
Wonder if they'll do any more ?? Couldn't find any other links that were bike specific....
Cheers !!
Best regular ride video I've seen posted on here - though I'm no forum whore.
A few comments from the UK perspective:
Under advanced instruction, and under self-preservation imperative, you must avoid the proliferation of paint on the roads over there, and so here also! Even when riding over SCHOOL crossing signs I was taught that the optimal line is over the bar of the L, the shortest amount of paint. But, that position is always sacrificed if some other factor poses greater risk. A-Road dual-carriageway roundabouts often have yellow lines painted right across the carriageway at ever decreasing intervals as you approach - so you have to scrub off early in the wet because the later you leave it the more paint there is!
I think his lines were thoroughly justified. He often gave up his position for safety, and commented as such. The key thing in that regard for an advancing rider is that his bike was always where he wanted it, there was always a plan and a good reason why he put his bike where he did.
I was also taught to ride those tight lines; to the shoulder or the crown. The thing is, you always give them up when they are not safe, and for me that would include when it's wet because my speed would be reduced and I don't need to take the advantage of the better view so much. (I've advocated giving it up elsewhere on here for other reasons too)
Not sure of the no indicator required comment, but I will say that I was taught that an indicator is a signal to another road user. I got canned if I indicated to fresh air.
I appreciate that here in Godzone we must indicate for at least three seconds before every manoeuvre but I think the blind habit approach sucks.
Giving an indicator as a concious signal makes you think more about giving signals in general, and about who can and can't see you, how you get their attention, change positions, use the horn, wave a hand, use and indicator etc. If you always indicate then typically you just do it without thinking and don't adjust your set. nah. On the other hand, I haven't found a roundabout in NZ yet where I can't give both signals when turning right, or a left hand when going straight through - indeed, my nearest one I often also give a hand signal for straight through on the approach so an opposing vehicle can make progress knowing where I am going without an indicator (yet). Signal to another road user :-)
Wrong shop window in the highlight? I use that all the time also.
For me the key reminders were, how much there is to see, how much it can help you ride, how slow you have to go when you are fully aware of those hazards, and how much you cannot ride by rote, but you can by a system with a plan, which he is using.
I disagree with the comment on being pedantic at low speed. You are going so slow because of the threat level. Most accidents, yadayada
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