Integrity

[Maha]

No wonder he is an EX layer eh?

That sucks,don't know how many times I used to say to customers when asking when the house will be finished,get reply of 3rd May or similar,so would say ok will get blinds hung about 23May,by that time the flooring will be down,usually pretty well true,although I did have the goods ready just in case.

Always someone either sparky,plumber,mostly painter delays the flooring guys,was fun organising layers when the builder phones Tuesday saying not ready for 30m carpet,15mvinyl till Friday instead of Thurs/Fri,oh and they are shifting in on Sunday!!!

Bastards eh?
Holds can be expected Tony, painters and kitchen people mainly but, as long as theres work to shift around things can pan out. Deadlines/pressure (like the one you mentioned) makes for unhappy trades people, that can come down to site management.

[MSTRS:Me]

They tun up at your place expecting lunch?

Hell no...they brought enough with them for me, too.

[MSTRS:Me]

Another wee story, that I think you've heard before, Mark.
9+ years ago, we phoned 3 reputable Napier electrician companies to quote on installing a light in our leafy little patio area. We waited in for all of them. Do you think the other 2 will be here soon?

[Subike]

well
you can spend today doing those, "ive got no time for" jobs you have put off for the past x months.
But if its a sunny day,
then you are already out riding

[Pixie]

A few years ago when I was plying my craft as a self-employed consultant, my Doctor kept me waiting for one-and-a-half hours for an appointment. My enquiries of her receptionist as to what was going on were "Please sit down, Dr will be available soon."

GPs can be a special case ,of course.
Consider a patient making an appointment for the GP to look at a "troublesome mole" and presenting with a mutant twin growing out of his chest.
Naturally the consultation may take longer than expected.

[Hitcher]

Naturally the consultation may take longer than expected.

No argument there at all. Tradies are the same -- a drip from the ceiling requires a house to be completely replumbed, etc. Everybody's world is capable of turning to crap when something seemingly straightforward becomes inordinately complex.

However the receptionist should know if the Dr is running late and approximately by how much, and should be capable of imparting that information to a waiting room full of people engrossed in two-year-old women's magazines. Those people can then make a decision as to whether they stay and wait, or reschedule for another time.

[Stirts]

and should be capable of imparting that information

Oh how I larf!!!

That would interfere with her nail filing time, which is considerably higher in the priority list I suspect.

[Lissa]

He needs Bitch Slap???....
Im right into honesty (oh how I hear the laughter) and I dont think its wrong to expect it in return, the shop I work for change work around almost daily, but at leats I know where I am with it. The guy was given my name by an Auckland Flooring supplier, under normal cirumstances I wouldn't have said yes to the job, but things aint 'normal' at present.

You know it is feasible he probably wasn't even telling you the truth seeing as he has no integrity. The truth is he probably wanted to save money and do it himself, or someone else has come in and undercut you?

Bitchslap is way to little in this situation, it needs a ManSlap!

[CookMySock]

Yeah thats not very nice, especially if things a bit tight and you are trying to help a bloke out.

Learn a lesson from it though, mate. People will try to manipulate you in business to get what they want, or at least have a good second-option available to them. I have always tried to do the right thing by people in business, and mostly that has paid dividends for me, but many times it has not, or has backfired as in your case.

So it comes back to who do you want to afford this level of trust to? I look after the people I know and trust first. The extras are just extras, until they have earned a place higher up. So keep those people you trust close to you, and let everyone else prove their place first.

Steve

[Beemer]

A farken txt?!! What a gutless piece of shit, the least he could do is give you a farken phone call!!

I was doing a large job for a long-term client and had a month-by-month contract. Got an email one Sunday night from the woman I was doing the work for to say she was flying back to the UK the following Tuesday. I've been in touch with the guy who took over from her but so far no work has eventuated. As my contract was only month-by-month, that means I have no comeback. Pissed me off though, as the remaining work would have been worth close to $2000 and I could do with the money right now.

[jim.cox]

So it comes back to who do you want to afford this level of trust to? I look after the people I know and trust first. The extras are just extras, until they have earned a place higher up. So keep those people you trust close to you, and let everyone else prove their place first.

Hear, hear. That's good advice

And when paying bills, look after the little bloke first

[Mom]

A few years ago when I was plying my craft as a self-employed consultant, my Doctor kept me waiting for one-and-a-half hours for an appointment. My enquiries of her receptionist as to what was going on were "Please sit down, Dr will be available soon."

After eventually seeing the Doctor, said receptionist tried to hit me up for $70.00. I said that they owed me $75.00, being my billable time lost less the $70.00 for the Dr's consult. A brief fracas ensued, sufficient to extract the Dr from her consulting room. Initially she sided with her receptionist but then said we should call it quits. I agreed, on the basis that her receptionist be sent on a customer service course, and recommended Kiwi Host. Much snorting resulted.

I now go to a different GP.

Similar situation up here with a friend of mine, she went apeshit at the delay in seeing the doctor, she had to take time off work to do so. She was told there was nothing they could do about it. She suggested a phone call to advise a delay time would actually be good. She did not pay for her consultation at the time, told them to send her a bill. She actually presented them with an account for more than the consultation cost, for her lost time when she returned their account unpaid, she never got a reminder about her unpaid bill.

Another wee story, that I think you've heard before, Mark.
9+ years ago, we phoned 3 reputable Napier electrician companies to quote on installing a light in our leafy little patio area. We waited in for all of them. Do you think the other 2 will be here soon?

Hah! I see you, and raise you a gas plumber who came to our house 2 years ago to look at our central heating. It took me a year to actually get one that turned up, then he only came as I agreed to pay him $80 to turn up! He said, oh yes, the thermostat switch controller is not working as it should, needs replacing, I will find out the cost and give you a quote. Still waiting I got the last laugh though, he has not billed me for coming to look at it in the first place

[MadDuck]

I asked a painter to come quote to do the outside of the house which is just way too high for me to even attempt. That was 2 years ago. Now he has no work and is looking for jobs.....Guess what? he aint getting any of my cash thats for sure!

A lot of tradesmen dont have integrity Maha unlike your good self.

You any good at laying that laminex click flooring shit..?

[Ms Piggy]

That sucks BIG time - as a former tradesman himself you'd think he'd have some idea of what you had done in order to fit the job in. Very rude considering that in this techmanalogical day and age there are a myriad of ways to communicate! Boo hissssss!!

[Mom]

I asked a painter to come quote to do the outside of the house which is just way too high for me to even attempt. That was 2 years ago. Now he has no work and is looking for jobs.....Guess what? he aint getting any of my cash thats for sure!

A lot of tradesmen dont have integrity Maha unlike your good self.

You any good at laying that laminex click flooring shit..?

I am fairly certain the only thing he cant lay is eggs, but the click together laminate flooring may well fall into the wont lay category, let me go point him in this direction