New governing body to sanction road racing?

**GIXser** · 17th May 2009, 09:26

Ok ill be the one putting this up..

Do we need another governing body to replace MNZ ?

**YellowDog** · 17th May 2009, 09:29

The road racing campaign and the cheese cutter campaign will need to run hand in hand.

**DEATH_INC.** · 17th May 2009, 09:34

Originally Posted by GIXser

Ok ill be the one putting this up..

and ill come stairight to the point..

its Clear from most of the discussions on here we need another governing body to run NZ road racing.. the current one seems stiffeled by a few people .. no more comments needed about that ,i doubt our votes will make any difference and yes i did vote..

so will racers and please racers only or immediate support crew and people invloved in the racing scene vote on this.

Do we need another governing body to replace MNZ ?

Not sure we need another one, maybe just an re-hash of the current system/people? Perhaps a sub-committee for road racing only?

**White trash** · 17th May 2009, 09:43

This certainly is a curly one, oh highlighted master of the low side.

Sure, a new body can be formed. But then, you need all the clubs on side to run the events. You need enough riders that are sufficiently fed up with the current situation to join and support it.

If someone WAS to form such a renegade organization, they'd need some pretty wicked sponsorship to launch it. There would also be some FIERCE opposition from our friends in Huntly.

I would imagine that any club supporting the new blood, would be stripped of its MNZ affiliation, thereby leaving its members unable to compete at MNZ events should they so wish.

So yes, it could be done, but it would have to be so squeaky clean and polished that people saw the benefits immediately and had no problem making the change.

All food for thought.

**GIXser** · 17th May 2009, 09:50

Originally Posted by White trash

This certainly is a curly one, oh highlighted master of the low side.

Sure, a new body can be formed. But then, you need all the clubs on side to run the events.

I would imagine that any club supporting the new blood, would be stripped of its MNZ affiliation, thereby leaving its members unable to compete at MNZ events should they so wish.

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So much for a democracy.... i can join two gyms.. as long as i pay my subs..
if that is a fact.. and they did strip ya off afiliation or membership..all the more reason to set another up...

**White trash** · 17th May 2009, 09:56

Originally Posted by GIXser

So much for a democracy.... i can join two gyms.. as long as i pay my subs..
if that is a fact.. and they did strip ya off afiliation or membership..all the more reason to set another up...

Oh agreed. I have no doubt there'd be no problem with individuals holding dual membership. It would simply mean belonging to two different clubs.

The simple solution is of course to not have mandatory cub membership t your proposed body. However, then you'd also have to organize and run every single event yourself. Big fucking job.

However, the idea does have merit.

**Wingnut** · 17th May 2009, 10:08

I would think it would have to be an "All on board" or not at all situation. Meaning all road racers jump or leave the status quo.

Is it really at this stage? Have all options within the current governing body been explored already?

I know only what has been written here, about the current situation but rushing into a revolution may not be the best course. Could cause more damage than good. If it all goes bad - it could be disasterous for the sport as a whole in this country. Ideas are one thing - for them to evolve into action is another.

Baby steps???

**brads** · 17th May 2009, 10:19

Would make voting for Jim kinda pointless,if he gets in?,lets see what he can do first before running off and trying to start something else.

**BJT666** · 17th May 2009, 10:58

Originally Posted by brads

Would make voting for Jim kinda pointless,if he gets in?,lets see what he can do first before running off and trying to start something else.

Thanks for that Brad.

People it is very obvious there is a lot of dissatisfaction out there, with what is currently coming out of Huntly, but let's not get carried away yet.

Many learned people have looked at this situation in the past and have ultimately backed away. New Zealand has probably 500 to 1000 Road Racers total, it is not enough to support two organisations.

Let's wait and see what happens next weekend.

**cs363** · 17th May 2009, 11:05

Originally Posted by brads

Would make voting for Jim kinda pointless,if he gets in?,lets see what he can do first before running off and trying to start something else.

Well said. I can understand peoples frustration given recent events that have been well covered elsewhere, but anything like this does need to wait until we see the results of the MNZ elections and assuming we get new blood, what changes they can make.

**Robert Taylor** · 17th May 2009, 11:06

Originally Posted by BJT666

Thanks for that Brad.

People it is very obvious there is a lot of dissatisfaction out there, with what is currently coming out of Huntly, but let's not get carried away yet.

Many learned people have looked at this situation in the past and have ultimately backed away. New Zealand has probably 500 to 1000 Road Racers total, it is not enough to support two organisations.

Let's wait and see what happens next weekend.

Thats bang on Jim, its VERY clear that a lot of people ( also in MX ) are VERY unhappy with the current regime. Including the main distributors who have been very offended by certain comments. If there is no change ( and particularly a change of attitude ) its not impossible that they will pull their support.
All the very best to you for the election.

**Mark Pav** · 17th May 2009, 11:33

You could set up a new organisation run by the distributors. I'm sure their commercial interests would align perfectly with the interests of all motorcyclists........

**Sidewinder** · 17th May 2009, 11:37

and start a mormong race leage?

**cowpoos** · 17th May 2009, 11:52

Originally Posted by Mark Pav

You could set up a new organisation run by the distributors. I'm sure their commercial interests would align perfectly with the interests of all motorcyclists........

I think you are probably right...the distributors do all seem to have more interest/passion for motorcycling motorsport than MNZ do at times of late!!

and it would be in there interests to get as much media coverage and spectator coverage as possible to cover their $$$ support in our series....rather than a wet handshake and being belittled for not giving enough!

They I am sure would concentrate on growing the sport...because without riders they won't have sales...

Maybe a distributer run series with a riders representation might be a go??

**BMWST?** · 17th May 2009, 11:59

the new organisation would have to make overtures to the FIM.....MNZ are afiiiated with the FIM right?.So overseas riders may not be able to ride at the "other" race meets