What you can do at a bike crash scene

[sunhuntin]

riff, there was a kid on an emergency tv show last night who had hypos. he got really stubborn and refused to drink the sugar drinks mixed by the flatmate/family member on instructions from the ambo guy. but, pretty much as soon as hed drunk one, he was a completely different guy.

[FROSTY:Me]

You got it in one mate.

SUGAR.

It's hard to judge exactly how much insulin you need because the insulin injected just opens these doorways completely. So if you're doing some high intensity stuff, like riding fast, you'll use up energy faster than you would normall. Say I'm sitting at my desk working. I'll have say 20 units of insulin for a standard two sammies and coffee lunch. Now if I'm riding, I'll only need 12 units. Or maybe only 6.

Woops. I took 12 and now I'm running low. First I know is my head feels a bit fuzzy. Then I've got a major adrenaline rush.

You know when you come into a corner, lean it over and it tightens just as you go under the trees where there's some moss? The bike slides out, you lean like fuck, hold that throttle, and the bike gradualy picks up grip, throws an almighty great wobbly and nearly throws you off. But you save it.

And about 10 seconds later your heart is beating like crazy and your head's a mess.

That's what it feels like when your blood sugar is low.

Except it doesn't stop. Until about ten minutes after you get sugar into yourself.

Anyway, this is starting to get a wee bit off topic. Apologies for that.

Jeeezus dude get to the point --friggin moro bar or coke?
Hehehehe

[FROSTY:Me]

I gotta say in all seriousness mate--Me knowing you Id try to get a suggary drink down ya.
But in all honesty if I diddn't I'd CHOOSE to do nothing unless specificly instructed by the EMS

Hmm someone somewhere mentioned this issue.
Like Hey me out riding with Riffer or another senior KBer I know, I know their medical condiition and think I would react accordingly.
If you have a condition that potentially is an issue wouldn't it be clever to make sure at least one of ya riding buddies knows about it and how to deal with it??

[Bow-Down]

Go sit a 1st aid course for free. Then move onto your advanced course its really interesting.

[FROSTY:Me]

Go sit a 1st aid course for free. Then move onto your advanced course its really interesting.

Yea I agree but what about like NOW.

[riffer]

Jeeezus dude get to the point --friggin moro bar or coke?
Hehehehe

The page at www.kiwibiker.co.nz says:

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to FROSTY again.

Funny guy...

[dpex]

I would really like advise from EMS folks on this one.Please let me know if im wrong in anything im saying here --DONER?? Speedie? Riff Raff ?? Firefight etc

You're quite right, Frosty. You are about as far away from being a crash-scene expert as I am from Mars.

Were that not the case you would have made mention of the eye-poke method for determining the living from the dead, and the glass-shard-and brake-hose tracheotomy method (well described by me in a earlier post) to help the 'about to stop breathing'.

I think that maybe you should stick to selling cars while you dream about owning a Yamaha.

[Hitcher]

You're quite right, Frosty. You are about as far away from being a crash-scene expert as I am from Mars.

I don't recall Frosty claiming anywhere to any expertise in attending a crash scene. Indeed the opposite, which is the clear purpose of this largely on-topic thread.

There are plenty of other threads -- indeed a whole forum -- on this site for onanistic trolling cocks to delight in the brain farts that they insist on posting. I suggest that you go and entertain yourself in one of those.

[caseye]

Coupdn't have siad it better myself Hitcher.Butt theres always gotta be a comedian aye.Keep at it Frosty, this is coming along nicely.

[Rayray401]

Oh btw, the way to check if someones dead or not...(i read this somewhere) but you dont need to touch the persons eyes to see if theyre alive or not..first is to check their pulse, breathing and their pupils...if theyre dead..pupils will dilate(will get bigger)...and when you shine bright light on it..the sizes of pupils wont change...and for CPR...mouth to mouth is phased out now...100 chest presses per minute...around 4cm above diaphragm..gotta press hard too..dont worry if you accidently break their ribs..helmet...you do need 2 people for it..but best keep it on..and best not do anything until EMS arrive..just keep em warm..and keep talking to them(the victims)

[FROSTY:Me]

Keep at it Frosty, this is coming along nicely.

yea but PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE could folk from the emergency services put in their bit.

[Toot Toot]

yea but PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE could folk from the emergency services put in their bit.

Someone will explain to you why the emergency service people are not makng comment on kiwibiker when I see you tomorrow frosty.

[FROSTY:Me]

Someone will explain to you why the emergency service people are not makng comment on kiwibiker when I see you tomorrow frosty.

Hey if it helps -If the EMS folk want to "NOT" make comment but would rather correct me in person or by PM. In this particular case I would hate to give bad advice to anyone.

[dpex]

I don't recall Frosty claiming anywhere to any expertise in attending a crash scene. Indeed the opposite, which is the clear purpose of this largely on-topic thread.

There are plenty of other threads -- indeed a whole forum -- on this site for onanistic trolling cocks to delight in the brain farts that they insist on posting. I suggest that you go and entertain yourself in one of those.

Will I discover you to be one of the more prolific posters in that part of the forum?

[dpex]

Oh btw, the way to check if someones dead or not...(i read this somewhere) but you dont need to touch the persons eyes to see if theyre alive or not..first is to check their pulse, breathing and their pupils...if theyre dead..pupils will dilate(will get bigger)...and when you shine bright light on it..the sizes of pupils wont change...and for CPR...mouth to mouth is phased out now...100 chest presses per minute...around 4cm above diaphragm..gotta press hard too..dont worry if you accidently break their ribs..helmet...you do need 2 people for it..but best keep it on..and best not do anything until EMS arrive..just keep em warm..and keep talking to them(the victims)

Nice thought, RayRay, but the fact is, some old farts like me hardly have a pulse anyway, which is why so many of us old farts get really excited when we find ourselves in the company of a female who is under a hundred and still breathing. And most of our red corpuscles have long been converted to pure alcohol (don't light a match near my corpse).

Frankly, Mate. I can't believe you took the eye-poke method, seriously. Doh!