How to tell your boss she has unreasonable expectations?

[shafty]

Good luck with this MotoGirl, - and importantly, in the meantime, keep notes of dates/examples etc for the worst case scenario - a Constructive dismissal PG

[Solly]

I feel your pain, but its not really your position to tell your boss anything. If her business goes down the toilet because of her actions then who gives a shit.

Your problem, if I may, is that you are a doormat. Learn to say no, especially if it involves coming in on a sunday or some other crap thats outside your contractual working hours. As an employer, it's just grand having staff that will bust their arse for me so I don't have to, so learn a lesson and let her do her own legwork.. You know the game "oh I didn't get your txt".. "forgot to check my email".. "The dog ate it"...

During working hours though, you really have to go do what you are told, and if the boss says to shut up in the training room, then thats how it has to be. While it will be hard letting go of this, really its the only way forward for you. It's not about whether you are right or wrong, or what you want.. the fact is you are hired staff and the boss's word is law. Sorry.

Steve

Nah,............I still vote "CROTCH KICK"!!!!!!!!

[cs363]

Good luck with this MotoGirl, - and importantly, in the meantime, keep notes of dates/examples etc for the worst case scenario - a Constructive dismissal PG

Excellent advice right there! Doesn't hurt to be prepared

[MotoGirl]

I feel your pain, but its not really your position to tell your boss anything. If her business goes down the toilet because of her actions then who gives a shit.

Your problem, if I may, is that you are a doormat. Learn to say no, especially if it involves coming in on a sunday or some other crap thats outside your contractual working hours. As an employer, it's just grand having staff that will bust their arse for me so I don't have to, so learn a lesson and let her do her own legwork.. You know the game "oh I didn't get your txt".. "forgot to check my email".. "The dog ate it"...

During working hours though, you really have to go do what you are told, and if the boss says to shut up in the training room, then thats how it has to be. While it will be hard letting go of this, really its the only way forward for you. It's not about whether you are right or wrong, or what you want.. the fact is you are hired staff and the boss's word is law. Sorry.

Steve

Cheers Steve, that was a really useful post!

In hindsight, I could've ignored the txt then said I left my phone the office over the weekend so wasn't aware she'd asked to use the laptop. Mind you, she probably would've taken it anyway and I would have discovered it missing 30mins before I had 15 people rock up for training!

I do respect that what she says goes but it is really difficult to watch something so destructive. Afterall, I can do what she says but if it escalates to a point the company goes bust then I can kiss my job goodbye. There's a fine line between respecting the boss' wishes and watching out for the best interests of the company - even if the boss is so stressed that she can't see it for herself!

[MotoGirl]

Good luck with this MotoGirl, - and importantly, in the meantime, keep notes of dates/examples etc for the worst case scenario - a Constructive dismissal PG

Good idea, me thinks. I'll take a backup of my Outlook folders on Friday and start keeping a diary (I'm geeky enough ).

[Pussy]

However it pans out, I hope it's the best for you, Adele.

[crazyhorse]

Even though times are tough, I would suggest taking the initiative and start job hunting. Why would you even want to stay working for someone like that - and its not healthy to be in that kind of environment day after day.

Get out and be happy!

[mynameis]

Go down on her.

[discotex]

Good luck with this MotoGirl, - and importantly, in the meantime, keep notes of dates/examples etc for the worst case scenario - a Constructive dismissal PG

Good idea, me thinks. I'll take a backup of my Outlook folders on Friday and start keeping a diary (I'm geeky enough ).

+1 for collating evidence and facts - you never know when you'll need it.

I've worked for this type before and they will not change. In my experience you will need to either find a way to manage upwards (i.e. figure out how to manipulate her to suit your needs) or find another job. Or maybe both.

MOSS skills are generally sought after. If you're prepared to travel a bit you shouldn't have trouble finding work. Just might be contract based. Personally I'd say that'd be more stable than working with a psycho who could sack you at any moment or wind up the company.

[smokeyging]

Sounds like a personality clash. i dought shes worth helping anyway. your too good for her, hunt for another job. if she was worth helping she would confide with you better. just my thoughts.

[madbikeboy]

You are completely right. I have voiced by concerns with her before and she has never made any attempt to change.

Like you have said, I'm working in a skilled position but the product I use (SharePoint) isn't too common in Tauranga. Bugger.

hey, long time no see. Sorry to hear you're in this strife at work. If you can't resolve the issue with her, you have the option of talking with her manager or HR (if your firm is big enough). Can be problematic on so many levels though..

Sharepoint is an in demand skillset, give your local Gen-i office a call. There will be other companies using it - hospitals and local councils are normally users. Also, consider talking to your biggest customers that you have trained...

[Slyer]

Sharepoint really?
Didn't seem to be all that complicated when we had a play with the action pack.

Also consider the possibility that she's trying to make you quit.

[MotoGirl]

Sharepoint really?
Didn't seem to be all that complicated when we had a play with the action pack.

Also consider the possibility that she's trying to make you quit.

We have the Enterprise version of MOSS, which has all the bells and whistles and it can get complicated once you step outside of just configuring it. I'm an admin/developer/designer/configurer/consultant/trainer so it's hard to know it all!

[Slyer]

We have the Enterprise version of MOSS, which has all the bells and whistles and it can get complicated once you step outside of just configuring it. I'm an admin/developer/designer/configurer/consultant/trainer so it's hard to know it all!

I've only got experience in supporting my company's own software, which is not all that useful if I had to move on...

[vifferman]

Given that she's not managing the company well, it sounds like your long-term prospects aren't good anyway. Carry on doing a good job, but plan for getting a new job (keep up a good relationship with clients, look out for Sharepoint positions or possibilities for contract tele-work, etc.) I think from what you've related, there's very little chance of things getting better where you are, and a strong likelihood of things going down the gurgler.

My wife worked for someone who was even worse: she was busy with some messy personal stuff (divorce, custody issues, etc.) and so wasn't doing her job properly, so the work wasn't coming in, so that was making her even more stressed, etc. She ended up taking it out on my wife, who left in the end, and ended up getting a better job.