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    Quote Originally Posted by MotoGirl View Post
    Heroes can ride scooters?

    Hmm....yes, I see your point. let's make it a mission for the mormon few then..

    I've even knocked up a quick storyboard:



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    Quote Originally Posted by cs363 View Post
    Hmm....yes, I see your point. let's make it a mission for the mormon few then..

    I've even knocked up a quick storyboard:


    And people think the smileys are just rubbish. That was priceless!

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    So, I've just read the thread and you do have to leave.

    It's important to remember at times like this that, actually, when people are fighting nobody wins. At best you'll reach an uncomfortable truce. The, actually, worst thing that can happen is that you get fired, take this silly tart to court and win ... because this'll make you think that conflict is a sensible way of life and you'll end up like popelli. All this time your life will be stressful, miserable, you actually have a realistic chance of damaging your mental health in the long term and ... ultimately ... it's not like you get to live again, is it?

    So tart up your CV and go fishing. And remember that work should be about seeing how much you can add to the world and not seeing how much you can take from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RantyDave View Post
    So, I've just read the thread and you do have to leave.

    It's important to remember at times like this that, actually, when people are fighting nobody wins. At best you'll reach an uncomfortable truce. The, actually, worst thing that can happen is that you get fired, take this silly tart to court and win ... because this'll make you think that conflict is a sensible way of life and you'll end up like popelli.
    Yes, I think we've already come to the uncomfortable truce you mention. This is why we barely talk to each other. Even when we travel to a client site together she spends the entire trip talking on her mobile.

    It does make the environment unpleasant, especially because there are so few of us. There's only one other woman that shares the office with us on a permanent basis, and she's basically friends with both of us. I feel for her because she will be caught in the middle of it. My boss often follows along when she has a smoke break and I often wonder why she has to leave the office to have a conversation with her.

    Time to start polishing the CV I think! Thanks for the advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by popelli View Post
    emails confirming that he had without consultation removed responsibilities from me
    I'm sorry, but this sort of thing really pisses me off. Not only can you not fire someone for being shit at their job; nor can you reduce their pay; but you can't even continue paying them the same amount to not do the job anymore.

    If you really really are so damn clever there is a free world out there to become your oyster. Seriously, go do whatever you want: Become rich; Become famous; Improve some aspect of humanity itself because it's all out there, it's all been done by people with the same number of arms and legs as you and we receive daily reminders that it's not impossible.

    I'll go find you one now. Here - http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...n-Barack-here/ - a lad who grew up in a state home just had the president of the USA ring him. To talk business, kinda, and just shoot the shit. That could have been you.

    I'm sorry, I'll have to stop there. I hope I've made my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RantyDave View Post
    I'm sorry, but this sort of thing really pisses me off. Not only can you not fire someone for being shit at their job; nor can you reduce their pay; but you can't even continue paying them the same amount to not do the job anymore.

    If you really really are so damn clever there is a free world out there to become your oyster. Seriously, go do whatever you want: Become rich; Become famous; Improve some aspect of humanity itself because it's all out there, it's all been done by people with the same number of arms and legs as you and we receive daily reminders that it's not impossible.

    I'll go find you one now. Here - http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...n-Barack-here/ - a lad who grew up in a state home just had the president of the USA ring him. To talk business, kinda, and just shoot the shit. That could have been you.

    I'm sorry, I'll have to stop there. I hope I've made my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RantyDave View Post
    So, I've just read the thread and you do have to leave.

    It's important to remember at times like this that, actually, when people are fighting nobody wins. At best you'll reach an uncomfortable truce. The, actually, worst thing that can happen is that you get fired, take this silly tart to court and win ... because this'll make you think that conflict is a sensible way of life and you'll end up like popelli. All this time your life will be stressful, miserable, you actually have a realistic chance of damaging your mental health in the long term and ... ultimately ... it's not like you get to live again, is it?

    So tart up your CV and go fishing. And remember that work should be about seeing how much you can add to the world and not seeing how much you can take from it.

    Dave

    x 2 on that. Taking employers to court is not always the best idea, particularly if you work in a niche industry - word travels and prospective employers may think twice before employing someone who has a record of taking employers to court, no matter how justified it may have been at the time. Unfortunate but true in a small country like ours.

    And like RD says, who really wins out of that situation?

    OK as a last resort but getting the hell out and improving your lot is definitely the preferred option.

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    I'm still thinking a good ole kick in the you know where..........that aside, some good advice has been given....so I may as well chip in my 2 cents worth

    1. Act rationally [whatever you decide]

    2. Never burn you bridges

    3. Be professional - always

    4. Don't be a "doormat"

    and

    5. KICK HER IN THE CROTCH!!!!!!!
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    yeesh! I must say reading this im thankful i don't work with or for any women, ive done it, man some are just so screwed in the head, i think its that multi-task attitude, that is such bullshit, you just end up doing lots of stuff by halves and people around you have to pick up after you....like yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeymcbean View Post
    i think its that multi-task attitude, that is such bullshit, you just end up doing lots of stuff by halves and people around you have to pick up after you....like yourself.
    If they learnt to organise properly they wouldn't have to multitask
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    Quote Originally Posted by MotoGirl View Post
    …whose fault is it if I can't make or miss a deadline?...
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    …paranoia…
    My point of view comes from someone that managers-schedules-performance appraises and unfortunately disciplines ones actions.

    Doing everything asked of you can go either way, on one hand you would be following instructions blindly; this approach will not be conducive to the already stressed environment you currently find your self in. The better approach of which most employers would expect of you is to indicate clashes in workload and unachievable deadlines and offer a solution or fix to such instances.
    If any situation arises, ensure you are accurate in your statements take the time to think of any actions you decide to take.

    I have been quoted on my previous comments and in regards to ‘paranoia’ yes this could be true, but only you know how your position or your manager’s demeanor has changed.
    As mentioned previously this is your chance to shine, take the initiative action and find the flaws in your current manager and work on those, the issues at work may not be generated from work itself. Assisting beyond the call of duty maybe what is required…

    On a personal note I have members of my team spread across NZ to assist in projects of which have chances in falling over if deadlines are not meet. This itself is stressful in regards to scheduling current projects and future workloads; my wife has indicted a change in my approach and shortness in responses, (I am working on this) this could be what you manager is going through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kflasher View Post
    My point of view comes from someone that managers-schedules-performance appraises and unfortunately disciplines ones actions.

    Doing everything asked of you can go either way, on one hand you would be following instructions blindly; this approach will not be conducive to the already stressed environment you currently find your self in. The better approach of which most employers would expect of you is to indicate clashes in workload and unachievable deadlines and offer a solution or fix to such instances.
    If any situation arises, ensure you are accurate in your statements take the time to think of any actions you decide to take.

    I have been quoted on my previous comments and in regards to ‘paranoia’ yes this could be true, but only you know how your position or your manager’s demeanor has changed.
    As mentioned previously this is your chance to shine, take the initiative action and find the flaws in your current manager and work on those, the issues at work may not be generated from work itself. Assisting beyond the call of duty maybe what is required…

    On a personal note I have members of my team spread across NZ to assist in projects of which have chances in falling over if deadlines are not meet. This itself is stressful in regards to scheduling current projects and future workloads; my wife has indicted a change in my approach and shortness in responses, (I am working on this) this could be what you manager is going through.

    Rdgs
    Thanks for that!

    I do find that stress affects how my boss communicates. Her emails are barely understandable on a good day due to bad punctuation and not proofing anything. It gets more difficult to decipher them as her stress levels increase then she wonders why I can't understand what she wants.

    Edit: You are also right that managing my workload is always my responsibility, even if someone makes it near impossible for me to do so. If I can't manage all the tasks it's my fault; if I have too much work and say nothing it's my fault. When are employers actually accountable for their lack of management and direction?

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    MG A thought here (yes I do occasionally think) This whole reputation thing is very much a two way street.
    Remember the movie --The Devil Wears Prada?? It was well known that anybody that could last a year working for that lady was worth employing because she was such a tough boss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cs363 View Post
    Hmm....yes, I see your point. let's make it a mission for the mormon few then..

    I've even knocked up a quick storyboard:




    its been done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carver View Post
    its been done!

    Oh bugger ...... nothings ever really new is it?!

    Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes. After that, who cares? ...He's a mile away and you've got his shoes

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