Anyone here know anything about the NZSAS?

**cs363** · 13th May 2009, 20:30

Originally Posted by wbks

Yes, a backup plan is good, but I am wondering if it would be at the expense of being lesser equipped for selection if you were to join as an engineer for example, rather than a rifleman which may or may not (which I would like to know) leave you more capable with the physical side of things that might suit selection better. And I have tried to get in touch with the army, and I'm waiting for a reply at the moment. I just thought I'd ask here to see if anyone from the army might be able to give a little advice... Obviously a little naive of me

Like I said I really don't think it makes a difference, you could apply for selection as an army cook (probably!) - as long as you make the selection criteria you're in. I'd imagine having a rank wouldn't hurt once your actually in though.

Originally Posted by wbks

Obviously a little naive of me

Hey, you never know - every now and then you get a sensible answer on KB!

**98tls** · 13th May 2009, 20:34

Fwiw i can ask the lady i work with how her son went about it though as i posted hes been in a fair while,shes looking forward to him returning home for good soon.

**wbks** · 13th May 2009, 20:35

Originally Posted by Number One

Yip - what he said. I also know someone who was in and there is no way you can get info out of them...seriously asking on KB

read a book there are a few written by ex SAS guys that wanted to make a quick buck

I don't mean to sound like an asshat here (although I am), but don't misunderstand my questions (which I think after 2 pages I've made clear), and then laugh at it. If you look, I wasn't asking for an answer from an ex or current sas, just for advice from someone who has a clue from a military background who would obviously know more about differences in army careers than me or most other people

Like I said I really don't think it makes a difference, you could apply for selection as an army cook (probably!) - as long as you make the selection criteria you're in. I'd imagine having a rank wouldn't hurt once your actually in though.

Yea I see what you're saying, but will you be better trained to meet that criteria in certain different careers or is the training not hugely different between them? Thats what I'm trying to ask

**Pedrostt500** · 13th May 2009, 20:36

They flunked my brother out years ago, right at the end, they didn't give him a reason, though he suspected it was because he was a student whilst doing the teratorials, My understanding is they dont require you to have specific skills per say, as they can train their own people to cover any task.
they knock out the unfit and those with poor mental stamina fairly quickly.
I understand that the NZ SAS is very highly regarded world wide particurly for jungle skills.

**wbks** · 13th May 2009, 20:37

Originally Posted by 98tls

Fwiw i can ask the lady i work with how her son went about it though as i posted hes been in a fair while,shes looking forward to him returning home for good soon.

I would be EXTREMELY grateful. Like I said, I'm not after details, just what way is best to go about it from someone who would know!

**wbks** · 13th May 2009, 20:38

Originally Posted by Pedrostt500

They flunked my brother out years ago, right at the end, they didn't give him a reason, though he suspected it was because he was a student whilst doing the teratorials, My understanding is they dont require you to have specific skills per say, as they can train their own people to cover any task.
they knock out the unfit and those with poor mental stamina fairly quickly.
I understand that the NZ SAS is very highly regarded world wide particurly for jungle skills.

What is the problem with being a student when doing the territorials? Not planning on the territorials, just wondering?

**98tls** · 13th May 2009, 20:41

Originally Posted by wbks

I would be EXTREMELY grateful. Like I said, I'm not after details, just what way is best to go about it from someone who would know!

That i will do,i will be seeing her on Friday,not sure how much she can/will tell me but theres no harm in asking eh,nice lady so im sure she will tell me whatever she can,no idea how it all works but hes been based in England for awhile,met him a couple of years ago when he was home for a visit.

**cs363** · 13th May 2009, 20:41

Originally Posted by wbks

Yea I see what you're saying, but will you be better trained to meet that criteria in certain different careers or is the training not hugely different between them? Thats what I'm trying to ask

Unless it's changed big time, whatever role you choose there will be basic training encompassing the needed skills, even for a cook n bottle washer!
My understanding is that if for instance you wanted to be an explosives expert or a sniper etc, you could pursue that skill path within the SAS once you have qualified. That's assuming you would want to try and apply after the minimum qualifying period with your choice of service.
However, if you wanted to be a member of your chosen service for some time prior to joining the SAS then it would pay to go down your chosen route like engineer or whatever.

**allycatz** · 13th May 2009, 20:42

My good friend on leave from the SAS started in the Air force and later moved over to the army... after over 10 years ordinary service...he was combat trainer and joined SAS as sniper....training course is a killer including carrying fully laden fellow soldier and packs over very long distance ...being tied up and treated as a prisoner of war etc etc....my mate loved it but lost several good mates along the way...hes now doing consultancy work for the Colombian army

**Pedrostt500** · 13th May 2009, 20:50

There is no great problem with being a student while doing the terries, but you will find the Regular army will trat them with some attitude,
There was somthing else I was going to say as well, map reading skills and compas work, get very good at it.

**Bow-Down** · 13th May 2009, 20:56

Originally Posted by wbks

Jesus fucking christ, I wasn't asking about current deployment details, I was asking if anyone knows anything about it. I was going to ask things along the lines of "would you be better off being a rifleman or an officer if you were to join the army with the goal of getting into the SAS"... Things along those lines, even just from someone who is maybe just in touch with how things go in the army. But yes, I can't see any harm in a helpfull "go *this way* or *that way*", so maybe they would post it as it's a lot less than what has been screened on TV and shown on the internet

If your planning on being SAS then your chances if you're a officer are a lot higher than a rifleman. I'm going to be doing the Kippenberger Scheme which is for officers after I finish Cambridge A2 exams. You get your uni fees, accommodation, food, car (motorbike) all paid for plus a salary while you complete the course.
But don't plan on staying in the nz army long term.

**Mom** · 13th May 2009, 20:57

Originally Posted by wbks

Jesus fucking christ,

You may want to work on your sense of humour before considering applying for a placement in the SAS.

Go and ask the Army recruiters, they will at least give you a bit more insight into what you need to know.

Asking KB members this was opening yourelf up for a razz.

Good luck mate!

**wbks** · 13th May 2009, 21:02

I have a sense of humour, just not so much on a bad day. Yes I will be talking to them some time soon

**cowpoos** · 13th May 2009, 21:12

Originally Posted by Pussy

It is NOT that difficult for me to find out where you live, or for that matter to find a hopper-full of something unsavoury from under a shearing shed.... which could VERY easily end up on your roof/person/section etc

With me?

offal pit!!!!!!!!!