New governing body to sanction road racing?

**Mark Pav** · 17th May 2009, 12:23

Obviously you guys do not have your irony detectors turned on.

**t3mp0r4ry nzr** · 17th May 2009, 12:47

what we need is an EFFECTIVE body. Something of which we dont have at the moment.

**Wingnut** · 17th May 2009, 12:57

Originally Posted by Mark Pav

Obviously you guys do not have your irony detectors turned on.

More sarcastic than ironic.......

I am voting no in the pole. But there needs to be a third option in the pole that should read -

No, lets wait and see till the current election is decided and (as brad said) give it a chance to change things for the best.

**cowpoos** · 17th May 2009, 12:58

Originally Posted by Mark Pav

Obviously you guys do not have your irony detectors turned on.

maybe we have

**White trash** · 17th May 2009, 13:07

Originally Posted by Mark Pav

Obviously you guys do not have your irony detectors turned on.

That's ironic

**CHOPPA** · 17th May 2009, 14:55

MNZ really are just the Governing Body so really events should be up to private promoters like the ASBK series is run by a promotions company not by motorcycling australia, world sbk is not run by the fim. They make the rules but its not there job to promote events.

A mnz licence is only $100 per year and that covers insurance etc etc if we want them to organise meeting and tv etc it would be much more expensive. Id be happy to pay extra fees because i would prob benefit but the guys that do trail rides for instance aint gonna be keen at the increase

**GIXser** · 17th May 2009, 15:37

Originally Posted by cowpoos

I think you are probably right...the distributors do all seem to have more interest/passion for motorcycling motorsport than MNZ do at times of late!!

and it would be in there interests to get as much media coverage and spectator coverage as possible to cover their $$$ support in our series....rather than a wet handshake and being belittled for not giving enough!

They I am sure would concentrate on growing the sport...because without riders they won't have sales...

Maybe a distributer run series with a riders representation might be a go??

bang on....

**scracha** · 17th May 2009, 15:44

Originally Posted by BMWST?

the new organisation would have to make overtures to the FIM.....MNZ are afiiiated with the FIM right?.So overseas riders may not be able to ride at the "other" race meets

Been covered before. As long as the requirements are met, there's no reason why another organisation couldn't gain FIM affiliation.

Originally Posted by Chopper

if we want them to organise meeting and tv etc it would be much more expensive. Id be happy to pay extra fees because i would prob benefit but the guys that do trail rides for instance aint gonna be keen at the increase

You've basically spelt out the biggest problem there Chopper. Most road racers want it to grow, have MNZ help organise meetings, sort out a proper calendar (to stop event clashes) and organise better coverage and would therefore be happy to pay extra. Most understand the annual fee would have to increase for this too.

**White trash** · 17th May 2009, 15:44

Choppa raises a VERY good point that I hadn't even considered. There needs to be a seperate promoter that runs and organizes the events, Nationals included. I think if someone stuck their hand up and said "I'll do it", you'd get nothing but support from the current committee.

So, who's going to do it?

**GIXser** · 17th May 2009, 15:44

Originally Posted by Wingnut

More sarcastic than ironic.......

I am voting no in the pole. But there needs to be a third option in the pole that should read -

No, lets wait and see till the current election is decided and (as brad said) give it a chance to change things for the best.

yep should have had a third option, for the record.. i would probably vote the third option, i simply put this poll up because there "seem " to be a lot of disgruntled people out there.. but when push comes to shove..

**Shaun P** · 17th May 2009, 15:47

Originally Posted by White trash

Choppa raises a VERY good point that I hadn't even considered. There needs to be a seperate promoter that runs and organizes the events, Nationals included. I think if someone stuck their hand up and said "I'll do it", you'd get nothing but support from the current committee.

So, who's going to do it?

What would be better, would be to put a tender out for it

**Hitcher** · 17th May 2009, 15:49

The biggest problem that MNZ appears to have is member apathy. I can't see how creating another organisation resolves that issue.

MNZ is, or should be, democratic. Get involved. Get people whose abilities you respect to stand for office. Vote for them.

But I guess that is harder and not as satisfying as standing on the sidelines shouting abuse.

**cowpoos** · 17th May 2009, 15:50

Originally Posted by White trash

Choppa raises a VERY good point that I hadn't even considered. There needs to be a seperate promoter that runs and organizes the events, Nationals included. I think if someone stuck their hand up and said "I'll do it", you'd get nothing but support from the current committee.

So, who's going to do it?

the road racer commisioner and his team...currently do it.

**cowpoos** · 17th May 2009, 15:52

Originally Posted by Hitcher

But I guess that is harder and not as satisfying as standing on the sidelines shouting abuse.

you mean like politics the world over?

**Shaun P** · 17th May 2009, 15:52

Originally Posted by GIXser

yep should have had a third option, for the record.. i would probably vote the third option, i simply put this poll up because there "seem " to be a lot of disgruntled people out there.. but when push comes to shove..

I think everyone agrees changes need to be made, but that can be done within the current infrastructure can it not?