Headlights

[caseye]

LOL ewe could be right there! The mental picture is amusing I must admit.

[steve_t]

I take you point, Mom, but the fact is, lights are way more obvious than the colour of any vehicle of any size.

I'd be interested to know what the law is regarding having some sort of flashing light up front, like pedal-bikers have. These days, many of those beggars look like a Christmas decoration on wheels, at night.

Bicycle front headlights by law should be white and not flashing. Rear must be red and can be flashing. All the front lights I've ever owned have a flashing function and they definitely make you more visible using the flashing function. They're pretty crap for actually lighting the way unless u get the high powered ones. I think flashing front lights coming towards you can be distracting and not allow you to judge the speed of the bike as easily as it approaches. Motorbikes should all come with HID lights

[dpex]

Hey lay off the poor GN rider...

Its most likely a chinese one and the headlight has either rusted off
or fallen to peaces....

Nar. Everything about the polished bike, the matching duds and his riding position screamed 'Learner', although I did notice he didn't have an L-plate.

[nallac]

Nar. Everything about the polished bike, the matching duds and his riding position screamed 'Learner', although I did notice he didn't have an L-plate.

If thats the case, are you sure it wasn't a Harley rider just being soooo
coooool that didn't need his/her lights?...

[dpex]

Why does every Kiwi demand compulsory, legislated solutions for problems that are simply a lack of common sense or education?

I'd say it was an argument for compulsory rider training, but then I find compulsion repulsive.

I think you answered your own question....lack of common sense.

But for the record I agree with you about compulsion. Personally, the moment someone tries to compel me to act the wondrous writings of John Stuart Mill swarm into my consciousness, quickly followed by a call to arms. But then, for the most part, I don't lack common sense, which is probably why I survived this long without ever having had a road crash.

The problem, really, James is; there's no longer any real penalty for messing up, apart from the obvious resulting physical penalty for crash on a bike.

For example, some uninsured tit, riding a Honda, could smash into and cause a $100,000 vehicle to get totaled.

What happens to him? He gets a bit of a fine....which gets to pay at $5 pw when he's in the mood to do so. The flash vehicle's insurers 'pursue' him through the courts. The courts order full repayment. What does the tit do?

Files for bankruptcy. Changes his name by deed-poll and the problem just goes away. BTW: Credit agencies do not check on name-changes.

Yet, not so long ago, such a debt would have seen the malefactor in a debtor's prison for a very long time.

But to take your/our argument against compulsion to the point of reductio ad absurd um, you we could argue that it would be perfectly acceptable to allow any person to ride a bike sans brakes or lights, and with totally bald tyres.

Granted, there are some who probably do. But can you mount a reasonable argument against compelling bike-riders to ride only a road-fit bike?

Should we compel riders to ride road-safe bikes?

Now take that argument to the compulsory use of lights at all times. Is the compulsion behind such a concept any less valid than requiring riders to ride a road-fit bike?

[CookMySock]

No one should compel any person to do anything. If folks don't want to ride on the road coz its too dangerous, then don't. Ya rolls ya dice and ya pays ya money.

Everyone does just what they choose. Don't you?


Steve

[GMcC]

I don't know anyone who rides without headlights in any conditions.

Hopefully this guy was a rare exception.

Well done on not spoiling both of your afternoons.

Fuked if I know bout that
Ive seen a few geezers who seem to exist by pootling along at a rather sedate pace and are totally oblivious to their surroundings !
Far as they concerned ' There are NO concerns '
They always ride with head up open face blank looks
Car ! What Car ?
Bike ! What Bike ?
Bring back the firken nut houses !
( and yeah come to think of it they all ride smaller type bikes )

[dpex]

Fuked if I know bout that
Ive seen a few geezers who seem to exist by pootling along at a rather sedate pace and are totally oblivious to their surroundings !
Far as they concerned ' There are NO concerns '
They always ride with head up open face blank looks
Car ! What Car ?
Bike ! What Bike ?
Bring back the firken nut houses !
( and yeah come to think of it they all ride smaller type bikes )

GMcC. You describe the tit I mentioned, perfectly.

[FROSTY:Me]

of course its not possible that the poor bugger was unaware his headlight wasn't working?

[caseye]

Frosty, we , well almost all of us check, repeatedly that we are visible,(headlight on) if this turkey hadn't it just makes him/her even more undeserving of a bike licence.