Compulsory Stop Signs

[Maha]

I didn't stop at a stop sign once. I got fined a million dollars and 4 hundred gazillion demerits.

That's ridiculous, even by your standards.

[rastuscat]

That's ridiculous, even by your standards.

Nah. Since I left the job I'm living in Fantasy Land.

It's far easier to understand Skoober Azkill et al now that I speak proper Fantasy - speak.

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[george formby]

The fine is $150, plus 20 demerits.

What did she do to deserve $300? Or maybe the truth is being stretched to make her appear as a victim.

No doubt other factors involved. Certainly no plea of being victimised.

[FJRider]

It is the failing to give way bit that will kill you and that is totally unrelated to whether or not the wheels came to a complete stop.

Failing to give way is the standard charge if you hit somebody at either stop or give way controlled intersections ... Failing to stop is a bonus charge if you didn't actually stop at the stop sign.




We all know the rules ... be it on our own heads if we get caught ... or we hit somebody.

[eldog]

I was spotted rolling through a stop sign years ago, was fined $1000 and lost my licence for 6 months, bit harsh.

No no noooooooo but the red and blues looked pretty at 1am

Far Canal. Now I is gunna stop

Yep no less than 5 sets of blue disco lights waiting for me last night, awesome. So glad they weren't for me. Certainly lit up the road.

[eldog]

I didn't stop at a stop sign once. I got fined a million dollars and 4 hundred gazillion demerits.

that's what happens when you write yourself a ticket, its all zeros

[Maha]

Far Canal. Now I is gunna stop

Yep no less than 5 sets of blue disco lights waiting for me last night, awesome. So glad they weren't for me. Certainly lit up the road.

My offence was not the stop sign fail, but it alerted said night prowler.

[FJRider]

My offence was not the stop sign fail, but it alerted said night prowler.

As a bust tail light would ... at 1am on a Sunday morning ... said night prowlers love to chat ... any excuse will do.

[rastuscat]

Failing to give way is the standard charge if you hit somebody at either stop or give way controlled intersections ... Failing to stop is a bonus charge if you didn't actually stop at the stop sign..

Interesting comment.

Failing to give way covers a number of different clauses within the Offences and Penalties Regs 1999.

FGW at a stop sign is covered by a different clause then FGW at a stop sign. If you FGW at a stop sign the evidence is normally fairly clear i.e. a big bunch of broken stuff spread all over the road. It's easier to prove than failing to stop, as the evidence is fairly damning. So it's not normal to double dip the charge by laying FGW and also Failing to Stop. Not unheard of, just not normal.

Wow, I've been out of the job for a few weeks now, and I'm still writing this shit. Except now I can call it shit, as nobody can bitch to the IPCA about me any more.

[Gremlin]

FGW at a stop sign is covered by a different clause then FGW at a stop sign.
...
Except now I can call it shit, as nobody can bitch to the IPCA about me any more.

Where do I complain about the accuracy of your posts?

[granstar]

Definitely stop, and look R L R L.

Gave Way at one once due to complacency and my luck got nabbed

[rastuscat]

Where do I complain about the accuracy of your posts?

Complain to Mrs Cat. She has the ultimate authority.

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[tamarillo]

Bringing this post back to life.
Of course you STOP for a stop sign, jeez.
But, as I am sure many experienced riders here know but some might not, you don't have to stop on the painted line, but in a position to see clearly. So if one bike stops I can pull up along side just a foot it two back, not interrupt their view, yet see at same time, and leave immediately after. If it's wide open clear view the next two bikes could too, though extend that idea too far and it won't wash.
If 1st bike is turning right and is in correct right hand of lane position I can go to left of them, holding back enough for them to see, and see same and go.
I'm only mentioning this as we can get very separated at stop signs and this gets us through quicker, legally and safely.

Until some wally decides 10 bikes can therefore go at once. Any here?


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[mossy1200]

you don't have to stop on the painted line, but in a position to see clearly.

Got a ticket near Speights Brewery, Dunedin 20 odd years ago. Stopped about a car length back from the yellows. Could not see where they were in the rain as they were faded and under water with street lights shining on them. Left intersection and got $75 ticket because popo thought he spotted me roll through. Trying to explain something to someone who has already made their mind up is impossible. Still sore about it. Needing hugs.

[trufflebutter]

I often see bikes not stopping at Compulsory Stops ie: foot or feet down. It's normally a quick check left or right then ride on through. To be fair though, some Compulsory Stops can be treated like a Give Way because of the visual scope, I know they shouldn't but they can.