View Poll Results: Which firearm types do you own?

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  • Shotgun (single, double, pump, lever, bolt)

    291 31.91%
  • Shotgun Auto (non MSSA)

    96 10.53%
  • Rifle (single, double, pump, lever, bolt)

    408 44.74%
  • Rifle Auto (non MSSA)

    177 19.41%
  • MSSA

    66 7.24%
  • Pistol

    78 8.55%
  • Black powder (rifle, pistol, shotgun)

    35 3.84%
  • Air/Gas (pistol, rifle)

    313 34.32%
  • un-armed

    305 33.44%
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    The legal definition, you should probably just turn on the news & you would know that.
    You better get used to your "rights" being taken away & replaced by other people's right to go about their own business without being shot up, or is your right more important? because it's going to happen, wether you get emotional about it or not.
    You're still going to be allowed your idiotic gun unfortunately, just within a few probably still too loose rules. Get over yourself.
    I'd rather trust the American definition. They have much more experience with them than us.

    So a one off event after nearly 30 years ma's shooting free means 250 000 people have to have private property stolen?

    Well it's painfully obvious that you know nothing about guns. People like you shouldn't be making decisions about gun laws. Pity they are though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jafagsx250 View Post
    I'd rather trust the American definition. They have much more experience with them than us.

    So a one off event after nearly 30 years ma's shooting free means 250 000 people have to have private property stolen?

    Well it's painfully obvious that you know nothing about guns. People like you shouldn't be making decisions about gun laws. Pity they are though.
    Why do you suppose the Americans have more expierence on the topic.
    And what's the bit I know nothing about?
    I know their purpose is to kill stuff, can they do other stuff like cut grass & do washing?
    As Jim Jeffries said, the only argument for not banning gun ownership is "fuck off, I like guns"
    Go on, click on the link.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0
    Let it flick over to part two at the end.
    And they're not going to steal your private property, they proposing a buyback using the tax I pay & im cool with that kind of use of taxpayer money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jafagsx250 View Post
    Evidence of what? We have had less gun crime than australia for years.
    We have always had less gun crime, the point is due to changes in Aussie law, theirs has decreased in both scale and magnatude faster than ours have.
    Quote Originally Posted by jafagsx250 View Post
    The police gave him a license. Its hardly my fault. More their fault and the gun man's.
    Only you claimed he could have got it ilegally. its not your fault its your attitudes fault. All i are hearing form you is me me me, this wont work, that wont work, that will cost too much, the police are corrupt.
    Yet you never produce a shred of evidence that backs your position.
    Quote Originally Posted by jafagsx250 View Post
    I think you're naive if you don't think that the horse has bolted. We're not even closing the gate.
    Odd then, You refuse to consider closing the gate, As above.
    Quote Originally Posted by jafagsx250 View Post
    so strangers lives are a bit more valuable than family?
    Thats pretty funy, considering the whole point of this attack was that the killer considered the lives of the victims to be lower than the common Caucasian. No actual life is worth more than any other.

    Quote Originally Posted by jafagsx250 View Post
    Who's definition of a mass shooting is that? The one I quoted of 4 people is the fbi's.
    a lot of what you qouted had nothing to do with guns, also none were on the large scale that occurs when nutters meet multiple large capasity firearms
    Quote Originally Posted by jafagsx250 View Post
    You know he could have had higher capacity mags. The end result is the same. Rights taken away by emotional public.
    Incorrect the time taken would be far higher the chances of him being overcame while he reloaded are also far higher, thats why he used large mags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jafagsx250 View Post
    The police gave him a license. Its hardly my fault. More their fault and the gun man's.
    Which police gave him the licence? I've seen it reported that he was using his Australian licence.

    Subsequently it has been suggested that overseas licences not be recognised in NZ, but that's not practical, we sometimes host international competitions. Then there is the guided hunter/tourist business. Perhaps a New Zealand licence should be required for purchases here, that would make sense.

    To really understand it though, we need accurate information which is currently in short supply.

    The PM is on to it with her point about not metioning his name. For some time now I have been trying to avoid learning the name of mass murderers, sometimes there's just too much publicity. If the press take the PM's point though it could work here. The pixelated court photo was a good move, shame thay didn't pixelate the white power sign too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Which police gave him the licence? I've seen it reported that he was using his Australian licence.

    Subsequently it has been suggested that overseas licences not be recognised in NZ, but that's not practical, we sometimes host international competitions. Then there is the guided hunter/tourist business. Perhaps a New Zealand licence should be required for purchases here, that would make sense.

    To really understand it though, we need accurate information which is currently in short supply.

    The PM is on to it with her point about not metioning his name. For some time now I have been trying to avoid learning the name of mass murderers, sometimes there's just too much publicity. If the press take the PM's point though it could work here. The pixelated court photo was a good move, shame thay didn't pixelate the white power sign too.
    Nz police. As far as I know he didn't have an Australian license. If he did he could have gotten an nz one by showing his aussie one. They automatically give you a license eif you have proof that you can legally use a gun in your home country.

    Yoid need to make an allowance for ammunition if you restrict gun sales ot locals.

    Then why are we getting gun control in 10 days?! We need an inquiry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jafagsx250 View Post
    Nz police. As far as I know he didn't have an Australian license. If he did he could have gotten an nz one by showing his aussie one. They automatically give you a license eif you have proof that you can legally use a gun in your home country.

    Yoid need to make an allowance for ammunition if you restrict gun sales ot locals.

    Then why are we getting gun control in 10 days?! We need an inquiry.
    We've had three in recent years. The information is there. Time to act on it. Get used to it.
    Gun ownership in NZ is a privilege - there's no enshrined right to ownership anywhere in NZ law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    Do you mean the cost of buy back?
    Yes, but it will be well into the millions though. I was also thinking about the cost of a firearms registry regarding the billions.
    I note that labour state there are "15,000" semi-auto's...

    Very wrong on that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    We've had three in recent years. The information is there. Time to act on it. Get used to it.
    Gun ownership in NZ is a privilege - there's no enshrined right to ownership anywhere in NZ law.
    Nope. Those only targeted law abiding people. Nothing in those rules would have stopped it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Yes, but it will be well into the millions though. I was also thinking about the cost of a firearms registry regarding the billions
    I note that labour state there are "15,000" semi-auto's...

    Very wrong on that one.
    Try 1 to 4 billion dollars. You have to pay market price for them otherwise compliance will be low. And it won't reduce the amount of guns in the market. Cos people will just buy more with the new money.

    Only 15000 E category rifles. Which are the ones with a 30 round mag but are legal.

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    Stolen of a gun site i tidied up the swearseys a little

    I have watched people on here moaning like little bitch's about potentially losing their AR's etc.
    get your moral compass sorted , it's about lives not money or some poxy weapon.
    There's a very good chance if it goes like the Aussie model you will get paid out then you can trundle off down the gun shop and continue to bitch to the sales staff and walk out with another rifle.
    Kind of sums it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jafagsx250 View Post
    Several points are spot on.

    Interestingly enough, I've been watching the classic Hornblower TV Series, upon whom Captain Picard from Star Trek was based. A common theme is about what is means to be a Leader - sometimes quick decisive decisions are required, other times a measured approach, weighing all the various options and then referencing them to underlying principles is the best course of action.
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    Time to go to the range, Put up a target, enjoy it while it lasts.

    Oh, and I wonder where they are going to find ~1-2 Billion dollars to fund this buy back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post

    Oh, and I wonder where they are going to find ~1-2 Billion dollars to fund this buy back.
    From you and all the other tax payers of course.
    Lets go Brandon

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    From you and all the other tax payers of course.
    Think again, the gun licence system is already 50% propped up by the tax payer in NZ as it is.
    The average of $12 a year is not enough.
    Why does the tax payer need to support the gun licence costs and administration?
    The right wing ideals of the NRA, are for user pays for bang bang.
    Shooting in NZ is a recreational activity for 99.9% of the licence holders.

    The F.B.I. and special counsel Robert Mueller are investigating meetings between N.R.A. officials and powerful Russian operatives, trying to determine if those contacts had anything to do with the gun group spending $30 million to help elect Donald Trump—triple what it invested on behalf of Mitt Romney in 2012. The use of foreign money in American political campaigns is illegal. One encounter of particular interest to investigators is between Donald Trump Jr. and a Russian banker at an N.R.A. dinner.
    The Russian wooing of N.R.A. executives goes back to at least 2011, when that same banker and politician, Alexander Torshin, befriended David Keene, who was then president of the gun-rights organization. Torshin soon became a “life member,” attending the N.R.A.’s annual conventions and introducing comrades to other gun-group officials. In 2015, Torshin welcomed an N.R.A. delegation to Moscow that included Keene and Joe Gregory, then head of the “Ring of Freedom” program, which is reserved for top donors to the N.R.A. Among the other hosts were Dmitry Rogozin, who until last month was the deputy prime minister overseeing Russia’s defense industry, and Sergei Rudov, head of the Saint Basil the Great Charitable Foundation, one of Russia’s wealthiest philanthropies
    If its for a purely recreational activity for a small percentage of the population why would the greater proportion of tax payers want or be expected to fund it.
    MNZ competition licences are not proped up by the government, nor are Cams licences for those you wish to race cars.
    Or even for explosives licences they are user pays.
    We have hunting agencies like fish and game that promote this.
    Its the Same with DOC hunting permits
    User pays, user says:
    Fish and Game NZ is everyone who buys a fishing or hunting licence –
    we are a ‘user pays, user says’
    non-profit organisation that receives no government or taxpayer money.
    Licence fees are set to cover the costs attributable to management of the fish and game resource. Your licence dollars go towards:
    https://fishandgame.org.nz/about/wha...h-and-game-do/
    When do you need a hunting permit?
    To hunt animals on public conservation land you need a DOC hunting permit.
    https://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-re...unting-permit/
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    From you and all the other tax payers of course.
    The estimated budget is $100-200 million. Which is still a lot, but, if it gets some of the guns out of circulation then there are that many less available to be stolen or sold on the black market.
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
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