British Cops' New Tactic

**george formby** · 26th November 2018, 18:23

Originally Posted by pritch

The scooters will be stolen - or hijacked. Criminals don't usually pay for their get-away vehicles. There has been a lot of coverage of moped gangs in the Brit press, and even mention by motorcycle writers. (More serious than the tabloids.) The moped gangs are a serious problem and deserve whatever they get. Fuckem.

Nicked scooters should be insured anyway, t'is the law up over.

I don't think that this tactic will encourage the feds to skittle bikers when they get the chance. The Feds in the UK have to account for every action, that's why they all wear body cams, it's not just collecting evidence but trying to maintain discipline. Don't ask me how well it's working..

And the tactics are aimed specifically at the scooter scrotes, be a lot harder to nudge something with a clutch and engine.

Just my thoughts.

Finally seeing scooters getting skittled will please a lot of law abiding people.

**Swoop** · 26th November 2018, 18:46

Originally Posted by MD

I had heard they had a lot of thefts and ram raids by moped riders in the UK. I didn't know it had it's own category 'moped crime'.

Also:
"Snatch & grab, then ride off" thefts from people on the streets (wallets, handbags, cellphones, etc).
Theft of other bikes. Two-up on a moped and they aggro a rider off of his/her bike when stopped, then ride off with both bikes.
Lots of variations. Have a look on EweChoob for a good sample of scooter-scum.

**F5 Dave** · 27th November 2018, 06:20

Originally Posted by GazzaH

So you're worried about being clipped by a chasing kop kar? Are you so unaware of your surroundings that the blues and twos wouldn't have given you the merest hint that perhaps something was going on? Why wouldn't you just stop? Like the T-pak thing, this is hardly going to be the first move.

So now the responsibility is on the biker stop or be knocked off. Or both, seen that on one of those silly police chase shorts on the TV.

So scooter riders could be even more at risk. Imagine a gf or your child , a learner rider on a scooter perhaps (why didn't you buy them a bike cheap prick) in a complex arrangement of city street traffic, not realizing the lights are for them as they haven't done anything wrong, why aren't they passing me. Bash.

I just don't think I'd trust a lot of cops with that weapon to use it correctly every time. Even one innocent person injured as a result is too many.
I also resent being placed in the same basket as criminals.

**pritch** · 28th November 2018, 20:16

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

So now the responsibility is on the biker stop or be knocked off. Or both, seen that on one of those silly police chase shorts on the TV.

So scooter riders could be even more at risk. Imagine a gf or your child , a learner rider on a scooter perhaps (why didn't you buy them a bike cheap prick) in a complex arrangement of city street traffic, not realizing the lights are for them as they haven't done anything wrong, why aren't they passing me. Bash.

I just don't think I'd trust a lot of cops with that weapon to use it correctly every time. Even one innocent person injured as a result is too many.
I also resent being placed in the same basket as criminals.

It is possible to be too concerned. These arseholes are using acid and electric grinders. Whatever they get is probably long overdue. Scooter crime is a serious problem in the UK, and moto journalists who live there, and are familiar with what is happening, are not complaining that I can see. And some of them ride scooters.

Flossie with her pink backpack and blonde hair is unlikely to be targetted by the constabulary. As you say errors are possible although I'd disagree that one innocent person injured is too many. The problem is more serious than you seem to think.
Drastic measures are overdue.

**Berries** · 28th November 2018, 22:44

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

So scooter riders could be even more at risk. Imagine a gf or your child , a learner rider on a scooter perhaps (why didn't you buy them a bike cheap prick) in a complex arrangement of city street traffic, not realizing the lights are for them as they haven't done anything wrong, why aren't they passing me. Bash.

Stolen bike, no helmet, wrong way on the footpath with handbags flapping around behind you makes you fair game. It's a completely different league to what happens over here.

As far as the Police are concerned I think you would be fairly safe on your own bike if you aren't waving a knife around. I would suggest you are going to be more at risk from Joe Public doing the same thing once they have seen it on Crimewatch a few times.

**jasonu** · 29th November 2018, 03:26

Any cunt that rides a scroater should be punted. Just riding one is a crime.

**Jeff Sichoe** · 29th November 2018, 06:35

Ya these are some pretty big numbers we're talking about

In May 2017 the London Evening Standard revealed that at least 50,000 crimes had been committed by gangs using stolen scooters, mopeds, motorcycles and bikes. The Metropolitan Police stated that the vehicles were often hijacked in Outer London boroughs such as Barking and Dagenham and used to commit robberies in the West End of London. Statistics released by the Metropolitan Police revealed that 1,500 scooters or motorcycles are being stolen in London every month. In the previous twelve months 13,005 thefts were reported, a 41 per cent increase over the previous period.

**Ocean1** · 29th November 2018, 07:16

Silly question. Why aren't they doing the random checkpoint thing to sieve out the scum?

Or is that tactic reserved for the dastardly bastards that had two beersies instead of one at the corner local?

**sidecar bob** · 29th November 2018, 07:59

Originally Posted by jasonu

Any cunt that rides a scroater should be punted. Just riding one is a crime.

What about the 250 ones? Does that still apply?

**sidecar bob** · 29th November 2018, 08:06

Originally Posted by george formby

Yeah, the UK is continuing it's downward spiral. I'm the Pom in Godzone you speak of.

Maybe you can shed some light on why all poms treat any garage owner in NZ like a crook that are there to be treated like shit & ripped off. What's that all about?

**Voltaire** · 29th November 2018, 08:14

Originally Posted by jasonu

Any cunt that rides a scroater should be punted. Just riding one is a crime.

I'll give that some thought when zipping thru traffic on my Vespa twisty 200.

I got 3 years out of an old mid 80's Yamaha CVT 250 I picked up for $300 and sold for $700.

Lime scooters are a hoot to ride to

**george formby** · 29th November 2018, 08:44

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Maybe you can shed some light on why all poms treat any garage owner in NZ like a crook that are there to be treated like shit & ripped off. What's that all about?

Hundreds of years of tradition. The have's shafting the have not's has led to an "if you can't beat em, join em" mind set. Britain is unofficially known as - Rip off Britain - to it's residents. It is shit and crooked.

It seems Poms are not alone in treating strangers like crooked shits. I sold a van to some Belgian backpackers a couple of years ago.
Not being a typical Pom anymore I had the van checked at my local garage before the sale, it needed new belts so I authorised and paid for the work.
It would be rude to leave these young people stuck at the side of the road on their holiday of a lifetime I felt.

Speaking to the mechanic later he said they were real shitheads and did not believe he had done the work, even showing them the old belts and new belts in place. He came very close to telling them to F off. I felt pretty stink after trying to do the right thing.

Every time I go back to the UK it feels further away from the country and people I remember. When family visit NZ they are always amazed at how pleasant and trusting people here are. Then moan about prices...