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Thread: NZTA response to question about wire rope barriers.

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    birth taxes death - some don't make birth

    I don't worry too much anymore

    meant refugees rather than migrants in previous posts

    its always cheaper to plan and do things at the beginning the way you want to go forward, then to go back and add or change completely

    Watch the Victoria viaduct in 5-10 years see what happens and the moaning about what we could have done....

    going out for a ride

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldog View Post
    How much starting off kit did you get when you started your working life?
    Umm, WTF? Do they do that?
    None, I took the money I'd saved by delivering the morning herald & cleaning school buses in the afternoon & bought a 1973 CB125 so I could commute, got a job at the local Ford dealer & have been self sufficient since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Umm, WTF? Do they do that?
    None, I took the money I'd saved by delivering the morning herald & cleaning school buses in the afternoon & bought a 1973 CB125 so I could commute, got a job at the local Ford dealer & have been self sufficient since.
    You are what hard working people are about - good on you for going out there and doing it for yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    got a job at the local Ford dealer & have been self sufficient since.
    Being Ford at least there was plenty to do.
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    but once again you proved me wrong.
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    I was hit by one such driver while remaining in the view of their mirror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Being Ford at least there was plenty to do.
    I've been BMW for the last 25 years, the work isn't running out there yet either.

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    From the latest Ride Forever newsletter:

    Coromandel motorcyclists treated to a NZ first in safety
    Roadside safety barriers along a scenic Coromandel route popular with motorcyclists, are being made even safer this month as motorcyclist safety rails are added onto existing barriers in high-risk areas.

    Motorcyclist collisions with roadside barriers that are mainly designed to improve the safety of drivers in four-wheeled vehicles, can result in serious injuries and make up around 4% of all motorcycle fatalities in New Zealand.

    Motorcyclist safety rails are especially designed to prevent motorcyclists from hitting the guardrail posts should they collide with the barriers in an accident. It is the first time these motorcyclist-friendly under-run rails have been used on New Zealand roads, thanks to Motorcycle Safety Levy (MSL) investment.

    Mark Gilbert, Chair of the Motorcycle Safety Advisory Council (MSAC), which advises ACC on where the MSL should be invested, says "Making our roads as motorcyclist-friendly as possible is a top priority for us. Quite simply, the more forgiving the roads and roadsides, the more survivable the accidents and the more lives saved."

    The innovative system works in reducing serious injuries by redirecting the rider along the barrier and away from hitting the unforgiving barrier posts.

    The steel underrun barriers are the latest safety improvements made to this 130km stretch of Coromandel highway under the Safer Rides project.

    "It's about creating a more forgiving roadside environment so that motorcyclists who have an accident will sustain less serious injuries".

    Motorcyclist safety rails will be fitted onto 19 existing barrier installations and will be in place by the end of January 2016.

    So, if you're going to hit a "safety" barrier, then make sure you do it on the Coro southern loop, in particular between Hikuai and Whanga.

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    Any chance of someone doing this ride could snap a pic so we know what they look like?
    "Statistics are used as a drunk uses lampposts - for support, not illumination."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daffyd View Post
    Any chance of someone doing this ride could snap a pic so we know what they look like?
    http://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/118822...-overhaul.html

    It's a simple "flattened out guttering" rail below the W rail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caspernz View Post
    http://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/118822...-overhaul.html

    It's a simple "flattened out guttering" rail below the W rail.
    Innovative? First time in NZ? Makes it sound like a world first!

    It's obviously no drama to retrofit, and I'd expect that the additional cost would be minimal if they were installed during construction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caspernz View Post
    http://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/118822...-overhaul.html

    It's a simple "flattened out guttering" rail below the W rail.
    Thanks for that.
    "Statistics are used as a drunk uses lampposts - for support, not illumination."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moise View Post
    It's obviously no drama to retrofit, and I'd expect that the additional cost would be minimal if they were installed during construction.
    True. (10 Chars)
    "Statistics are used as a drunk uses lampposts - for support, not illumination."

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    Quote Originally Posted by caspernz View Post
    http://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/118822...-overhaul.html

    It's a simple "flattened out guttering" rail below the W rail.
    more like a racetrack now then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    i think all barriers should be removed.




    ...and replaced with landmines.
    Exactly, I would rather hit a land mine and die instantly than to hit either a solid barrier and break most, if not all my bones and die a slow painful death, or worse become crippled.. The idea of losing an arm or leg doesn't sound very nice either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fxxk View Post
    The idea of losing an arm or leg doesn't sound very nice either.
    just remember how much money you got from the tooth fairy, the amputee fairy pays a fortune if you wrap up the part and leave it under your pillow....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    NZTA's response show what happens when facts meet emotion. Bikers need to learn from this, particularly if they want to become effective lobbyists.
    Having said that Hitch, my take on the NZTA letter at the start of this thread was that it was still refering to vehicles other than motorbikes in parts of it, i.e.

    "Wire rope barriers 'catch' vehicles that leave the road. When a vehicle hits the wire rope barrier the cables flex, slowing the vehicle and pushing it back into its lane. The system absorbs impact energy, reducing the force on the passengers which means fewer and less severe injuries.

    They are also designed so no part of them can penetrate the passenger compartment of cars."
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