North Korea

[Katman]

Damn! I must have dreamed the Iran Iraq war and the invasion of Kuwait and the gassing of the Kurds and... hang on a minute... never engage with a fucking retard on the internet... back slowly awaaaaay.

Comprehension's not your strongpoint, is it?

[Viking01]

http://www.atimes.com/article/the-ke...rump-kim-show/

[TheDemonLord]

I'm not the one claiming to know what the 'overwhelming concensus' is.

It's a derived conclusion - consider a bell curve - the middle point is the average public opinion, then to the left and right you have the fringes. In the west we have people that are dissatisfied with the country they live in, and so they decide to emigrate - they then go through a long and ball-ache process to move. They exist at one of the fringes.

Now, despite how tedious the emigrtion process is, it's fairly safe, you get your belongings shipped over and you are guaranteed to be allowed in etc. This puts the relationship between where the fringe is and where the midpoint it. For our good friends at Syria (as an example), to escape the country they often did so at great personal risk to themselves, without being able to take all of their belongings and without any guarantee.

Then we look at the number of people that did this - it wasn't a small number - this tells us how far shifted the mid point of the bellcurve MUST be in order for so many people to risk so much - that's how I claim the overwhelming consensus.

Are more leaving in rickety boats than are staying?

See above - Bell Curves.

[TheDemonLord]

Maybe you should quit the electric puha. It isn't that DPRK wouldn't come to talks, in recent decades it's that the US didn't want to give them credibility. Trump just wanted a "win". Oh, and a new hotel and maybe a resort?

Now nobody except the two dictators (and their interpreters) know what was actually said and they are both telling a different story.

Smoke and mirrors.

I actually had to look up what Electric Puha was - It's been a while. The point is, they talked. That, in of itself, is historic. If Obama get's a prize for effectively SFA, then surely we can give some credit to Trump here - unless we are so biasedly partisan that we can't bring ourselves to speak the evil-ones name...

[Katman]

It's a derived conclusion - consider a bell curve - the middle point is the average public opinion, then to the left and right you have the fringes. In the west we have people that are dissatisfied with the country they live in, and so they decide to emigrate - they then go through a long and ball-ache process to move. They exist at one of the fringes.

Now, despite how tedious the emigrtion process is, it's fairly safe, you get your belongings shipped over and you are guaranteed to be allowed in etc. This puts the relationship between where the fringe is and where the midpoint it. For our good friends at Syria (as an example), to escape the country they often did so at great personal risk to themselves, without being able to take all of their belongings and without any guarantee.

Then we look at the number of people that did this - it wasn't a small number - this tells us how far shifted the mid point of the bellcurve MUST be in order for so many people to risk so much - that's how I claim the overwhelming consensus.



See above - Bell Curves.

What a load of absolute fucking bollocks.

Bell-end.

[TheDemonLord]

What a load of absolute Maths.

Fixed it for you, it also explains why you don't understand it...

[Katman]

Fixed it for you, it also explains why you don't understand it...

Seriously, you're like the pigeon who struts around knocking over all the chess pieces and then claims they've won.

[TheDemonLord]

Seriously, you're like the pigeon who struts around knocking over all the chess pieces and then claims they've won.

Sounds like a Conspiracy, maybe the Jews are genetically engineering the Pigeons...

[pritch]

I actually had to look up what Electric Puha was - It's been a while. The point is, they talked. That, in of itself, is historic. If Obama get's a prize for effectively SFA, then surely we can give some credit to Trump here - unless we are so biasedly partisan that we can't bring ourselves to speak the evil-ones name...

By now we should all be aware that Trump lies. A lot. One of his more or less recent ones, they just keep coming, relates to the military remains to be repatriated under this historic agreement. He said that he has been approached by parents grateful that the remains are coming home. Bearing in mind that Korean War veterans are now in their eighties, that places their parents at around 110 or more years old. Maybe he was using a ouija board?

I don't think it's bias to disbelieve Trump, it's the only appropriate response.

None of which means I consider Obama's Nobel Peace Prize other than premature. It would be hard to outdo that award for how inappropriate it transpired to be. Unless they gave one to Trump.

[oldrider]

http://www.atimes.com/article/the-ke...rump-kim-show/

Dream a little - how would Hollywood play this out?

Trump needs world acclamation and support right now - opportunity for peace broker with Korean situation. - Peacemaker supreme wins the day with Korea. - Happy world media?

Success would open the door to further opportunity as peace broker with Palestinians and Israel? (World approval and great expectation?)

Russian forces withdrawn from ME and return home to face off "apparent" threats from Ukraine and NATO?

Despite best efforts Hezbollah and Iran queer the pitch leaving "no alternative" but military action in the interests of peace in the region - finally?

Totally frustrated world support for coalition action - driven by media?

"Reluctantly"? Western coalition "peace" forces take out Syria and Iran - Palestine has nobody left to turn to - capitulates to Israeli demands = peace?

Orchestrated? - never!

[jasonu]

Seriously, you're like the pigeon who struts around knocking over all the chess pieces and then claims they've won.

and when the discussion doesn't go your way you resort to name calling and insults.
Egg.

[jasonu]

By now we should all be aware that Trump lies. A lot. One of his more or less recent ones, they just keep coming, relates to the military remains to be repatriated under this historic agreement. He said that he has been approached by parents grateful that the remains are coming home. Bearing in mind that Korean War veterans are now in their eighties, that places their parents at around 110 or more years old. Maybe he was using a ouija board?

I don't think it's bias to disbelieve Trump, it's the only appropriate response.

None of which means I consider Obama's Nobel Peace Prize other than premature. It would be hard to outdo that award for how inappropriate it transpired to be. Unless they gave one to Trump.

Put the Herald down mate.

[TheDemonLord]

By now we should all be aware that Trump lies. A lot. One of his more or less recent ones, they just keep coming, relates to the military remains to be repatriated under this historic agreement. He said that he has been approached by parents grateful that the remains are coming home. Bearing in mind that Korean War veterans are now in their eighties, that places their parents at around 110 or more years old. Maybe he was using a ouija board?

I don't think it's bias to disbelieve Trump, it's the only appropriate response.

None of which means I consider Obama's Nobel Peace Prize other than premature. It would be hard to outdo that award for how inappropriate it transpired to be. Unless they gave one to Trump.

And what of the lies that have been told about Trump by the MSM?

This is not to say that Trump is perfect, but so far - we've not had WW3, we've not had a total collapse of the Economy, He's signed executive orders to do what he said he would do, And he's accomplished something no other president has been able to.

I think he's doing alright for a president.

Also:

https://www.politico.eu/article/dona...ians-nominate/

*Smug Mode*

[Banditbandit]

Put the Herald down mate.

Even FOx News commentators (long time supporters of Trump) have slammed the deal ...

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/f...18-6?r=UK&IR=T

[Voltaire]

Even FOx News commentators (long time supporters of Trump) have slammed the deal ...

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/f...18-6?r=UK&IR=T

You can't quote Fox, you need to find some obscure clip on You Tube to show your not a sheeple.

What about the US Sunglasses Monopoly..... MSM is totally ignoring that.

http://nordic.businessinsider.com/co...safilo-2017-8/