Road toll - Police stupid obsession blaming speed

**crack** · 9th January 2018, 18:51

Originally Posted by EJK

Nah, German way would be to gather up all the inferior drivers, slow drivers, Non-indicating tradies and rural farmers, old and senile, lane crossers, boy racers, and Asian tourists and put them in gas chambers.

Guaranteed to improve road safety.

Du bist eine schändliche und bigotte Person.

eine Person mit sehr geringer Intelligenz (IQ von 25 bis 50), die normalerweise nur in der Lage ist, sich vor Gefahren zu schützen und einfache mechanische Aufgaben unter Aufsicht auszuführen. 2. (informell) eine extrem dumme Person; Tölpel Adjektiv. 3. oder wie ein Schwachsinniger; schwachsinnig; schwachsinnig. 4. dumm oder sinnlos: ein

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**EJK** · 9th January 2018, 18:55

Originally Posted by crack

Du bist eine schändliche und bigotte Person.

eine Person mit sehr geringer Intelligenz (IQ von 25 bis 50), die normalerweise nur in der Lage ist, sich vor Gefahren zu schützen und einfache mechanische Aufgaben unter Aufsicht auszuführen. 2. (informell) eine extrem dumme Person; Tölpel Adjektiv. 3. oder wie ein Schwachsinniger; schwachsinnig; schwachsinnig. 4. dumm oder sinnlos: ein

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I can think of a scene from Pulp Fiction.

**caspernz** · 9th January 2018, 20:07

Originally Posted by EJK

I can think of a scene from Pulp Fiction.

Sprechen sie deutsch mein herr? Ich bin ja nur ein eisenbahnknotenpunkthinundherschieber...

That scene must be the "be cool hunny bunny" one

**EJK** · 9th January 2018, 20:34

Originally Posted by Swoop

Being forced to read Miss Cassina's posts?

You went over the line mister!

**Berries** · 9th January 2018, 22:37

Originally Posted by granstar

So what about the overseas visitor with obviously absolutely no driver skills as they weave all the way from Northland to Southland in their rental putting the shits up everyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBfVnEdoTHI

I am struggling to see what part of that video showed that the driver had absolutely no skills. Seems to me he was on the wrong side of the road through mistakenly forgetting where he was which has fuck all to do with skills. I am sure many of us have done that. Hands up, I did it somewhere north of Milan once.

Perhaps if Margaret and Trevor weren't cutting the 45km/h corner the other driver would have seen them earlier and realised his mistake and either got back on the correct side of the road or scrubbed off a bit more speed. If I was being picky.

This is the reality of whoring the country for the tourist dollar though, you can't have it both ways.

**crack** · 10th January 2018, 07:47

Originally Posted by Berries

I am struggling to see what part of that video showed that the driver had absolutely no skills. Seems to me he was on the wrong side of the road through mistakenly forgetting where he was which has fuck all to do with skills. I am sure many of us have done that. Hands up, I did it somewhere north of Milan once.

Perhaps if Margaret and Trevor weren't cutting the 45km/h corner the other driver would have seen them earlier and realised his mistake and either got back on the correct side of the road or scrubbed off a bit more speed. If I was being picky.

This is the reality of whoring the country for the tourist dollar though, you can't have it both ways.

Well said indeed,I agree.

**YellowDog** · 10th January 2018, 08:02

Originally Posted by granstar

So what about the overseas visitor with obviously absolutely no driver skills as they weave all the way from Northland to Southland in their rental putting the shits up everyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBfVnEdoTHI

Looked like a lone driver. Not going fast and clearly trying to avoid a collision. Couldn't understand what was going on

I did that in Italy once on a country road. Turned right off a main road and instinctively set myself on the left side. Realised quickly enough, but it's quite worrying.

**crack** · 10th January 2018, 08:26

Originally Posted by granstar

Missed point, distraction and careless driving is bigger than speed, how do you get the message to the government agency to take a look outside????

So what about the overseas visitor with obviously absolutely no driver skills as they weave all the way from Northland to Southland in their rental putting the shits up everyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBfVnEdoTHI

I am:

While I agree the road toll is trending down, with some logic I agree that the NZ police need a vessel to carry their message, then I guess speeding is the most suitable, as the police say that excessive speed is the main cause of death:

When I think of excessive speed I imagine some young goon in his/her $3000 twin turbo Japanese import doing 240 kph.

BUT! Excessive speed applies to speed limits and driving to the conditions what ever the speed limit, or physical conditions that need to be met with driver awareness and caution.

Deaths are not just caused by for example, doing 50kph through a 20pkh area, when a hypothetical worker steps out and you clean him/her up because you cant stop, or doing 50kph in a 50kph area in the wet, going around a corner a bit quick with some unknown spillage on the road, and you loose it and clean up some person to your right! or maybe its you on your bike and you whack your head on the curb on your way down, ni ni nurse.

Or as in the above example you are doing 300 kph on your Hyabusa and a tractor pulls out of a farm gate, and cuts the tractor in half and the rider disintegrates, the farmer doesn't have a mark on him, but is traumatized by the carnage, "but hey the services are used to cleaning it up".

I know of a few on here, in the Ambo, Fire, & Police service.

They get to pick up the body parts, load the survivors, hose out or away what cant be picked up, then go home to their loved ones, it takes a toll.

Yes I agree that they (the police) could cover/advertise driver issues of Fatigue, Lack of Patience, Dis courteous behaviors, etc etc, but with adds of drink driving, and drug driving, and speeding, (thats 3 sets of adds) thinking economics it becomes expensive to get the message out there to all, so when I think of the speeding campaign, as much as I am sick of the harping on about it, I guess bang for buck, its not doing too bad:

One of my dislikes is the police attitude to speeding, IE towing my tandem trailer at 96kph, a cop coming towards me in a line of traffic on the desert road, hits the brakes, lights, siren, u turns sharply, and accelerates like a absolute goon to pull me over for a 6kph infringement. ( this was not a safe action)

Very recently my old mate got cleaned up by a Woman police officer in a car, coming towards him, while a hoon in a boy racing machine speed past him, she hits the brakes, lights, siren and you guessed it, U- turns in front of him on a state highway, he is currently in rehabilitation having been without his Christmas with his family:

Their is a strong lack of Human Factors training and understanding in our Police, (and DHBs, Local and central Govts,).

As much as I have complained about the harping on, I will put up with it.

**Swoop** · 10th January 2018, 11:16

Originally Posted by EJK

You went over the line mister!

Oops, forgot about those bastards who cannot stay to the left of the center line.

Poison injections, whilst reading Miss Cassina's posts, and being beaten with a brick.

**Akzle** · 10th January 2018, 11:30

Originally Posted by EJK

Nah, German way would be to gather up all the inferior drivers, slow drivers, Non-indicating tradies and rural farmers, old and senile, lane crossers, boy racers, and Asian tourists and put them in gas chambers.

Guaranteed to improve road safety.

vote akzle

Originally Posted by YellowDog

Just a quick FYI regarding technology being forced upon us:

Phase 2 of the ESC requirements for used imported vehicles comes into effect March 1st 2018 in that all passenger vehicles class MA (that’s 'cars') with an engine of 2001 or more cc's will need to have ESC (Electronic Stability Control) fitted.

At least some of them have a switch, so you can learn to drive properly, without relying upon technology to cushion you from reality

buy my magna bro

**caspernz** · 10th January 2018, 11:51

Originally Posted by Swoop

Oops, forgot about those bastards who cannot stay to the left of the center line.

Poison injections, whilst reading Miss Cassina's posts, and being beaten with a brick.

The important question is do I get to choose the colour of the brick?

**EJK** · 10th January 2018, 12:28

Originally Posted by cassina

...They are certainly no better than any one else in driving ability.

Why don't you send your CV to NZ Police and apply for chief driving instructor? I'm sure they'd be interested with your expertise and experience.

**Akzle** · 10th January 2018, 12:30

Originally Posted by cassina

The police u turn thing without looking appears to be very common thing as I was in a car myself that was almost hit by a police car doing a u turn. Maybe when a police officer does a u turn into a big truck without looking and comes off worse they will then start looking before attenpting u turns. They are certainly no better than any one else in driving ability.

you're a fuckwit

why do you waste time (everyone elses, yours is fucking worthless) posting the same shit, over and over again, in many and varied and entirely irrelevant threads, only to be shot down by everyone else, over and over again?