the same as everywhere else
higher than the normal tolerance (eg 40%)
open ended - police should not enforce the speed limit n passing lanes
Well the licence & driving ability is a good point/topic so I have put my thoughts here
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1130152466
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I'd have no problem with that but it's very rare to have video evidence.
The entertainment value would be very different if the number of allegations against a specific rego plate was available to public view. I think the current system works alright.
It would be wouldn't it? (Entertainment value I mean).
Current system gives the person complaining no evidence of any action being taken - sure you get a letter from the coppers (form letter) but there is absolutely no way of knowing whether your original complaint has been actioned or not. They say they send a letter but how wouldya know?
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There is a stronger form you can get than the Community Roadwatch Report (which is basically hearsay.) As far as I know the stronger form isn't available online but any traffic cop should have a blank one available and you can get them from any police station. These complaint forms do allow you to make the complaint formal and even request prosecution. If you do request prosecution you have to be willing to front up in court and give evidence, which takes it beyond hearsay. Next time a traffic cop pulls you over ask for a few blank forms or pick some up from your local station.
How is it anymore hearsay than a statement made by somebody?
I genuinely mean that, can you elaborate?
If true they're hardly worth filling in.
And if I had to wait until I was stopped by a traffic cop to get one of those forms I might have to wait a bloody long time!!
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The Comunity Roadwatch process is more or less hearsay. Someone tells the cops in an online form that they saw someone else driving badly. The cops respond, not sure how but not with legal action.
The form I'm talking about (I have a copy here but it doesn't have a name or form number unfortunately) is more serious. you have to actually sign it. You also have to get the cop you give it to to sign it. It requires you to provide quite a bit of detail; time, place, description of what happened, description of offending vehicle & driver, map, independent witness details if available, your personal & contact details. It allows you to specify you either want the other driver spoken to and warned, or you want him or her prosecuted. If you choose the latter you have to agree to be available to go to court and be a witness. I guess that is the point where it becomes more than hearsay: because the defense can cross-examine you, you're under oath, and a judge is presiding.
Yep, know of them - mostly the comms say the person will come in and make a formal complaint, sometimes they just want the offending driver given a flea in his ear.
If formal complaint made then normally a penalty of some sort will be dished out - sometimes a summons to Court, sometimes a ticket depending on circumstances.
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the odd one does do it Scummy....we have a passing lane opposite the farm im on...there is often the same highway patrol car parked in one of our farm access ways, under the trees, pointing a gadget out of his window...it always seems to be the same guy...oddly I've talked to him a couple of times when I'm going out that way with some machinery...and he seem like a nice fella??
but also...its the only time I've ever seen a cop praying on passing lanes.
I’ve been booked at 112 on a passing lane, I was most pleased…
The upside was now I knew where he was I could have a little fun!
Every cloud and all that…
I think an increased tolerance for passing should be encouraged, but I also think a 20% tolerance across the board would be a good idea so I’m an extremist radical in the eyes of the beige.
What I’d really like to see is an open limit on lonely back roads with a 2-3km lead in to towns where it drops you down to 100 then 80 then 50 as you close in on it.
Where the motorway has a speed limit that fluctuates with peak times and the right hand lane is for passing.
I’d also like to see 13 year olds on 50cc scooters after passing a road test with an experienced instructor all done through their collage.
Only allowed to be on roads with a speed limit of up to 60kph, and a curfew…
Not too different than a push bike (speed wise) but with lights and rego.
That would lead nicely into the compulsory two years on a motorbike!
But all of this would require people to be able to think for themselves and that just isn’t going to happen.
But can you imagine the uproar if it was floated?
The reality is that while there would be losses, and initially they would look quite high if taken out of the overall “shit that happened” statically generated reports, but they shouldn’t be much higher than the usual final score.
Just a personal fantasy.
Anyway, sorry OP I’ve gotten way off topic.
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