It wasn't an "I didn't see you"...

[ital916]

I love this country, a shame about the large percentage of inbreds that inhabit it.

Had a van pull out on me today...the thing is it wasn't an "I didnt see you", it was an "I saw you but couldnt give a fuck if you crashed".

The van pulled out, I anticipated he would so managed to stop but the truck behind me was hard on the anchors, the fatty behind the wheel saw me clear as day and that is what infuriates me. I shot past him, pulled back in and then made case of point in ensuring he knew what I thought of him. I dont usually do that but this guy was a cunt. Guess what though, he was fucking pleased with himself, laughing at me. I have a family cunt face and friends and people I love who would miss me you fucking walking fat deposit, is it just me or is there a complete and utter lack for the value of others lives in this country.

Fatty kept pointing to the green light for me to go, he must have too much fat around his eyes as there was straight traffic and we were turning, so again is there a complete lack of the knowledge of road rules in this country.

He then started tailgating me and tooting his horn.

I prayed for michelin man to get out of his van and start something, I prayed I would get the chance to wedge my size 10 boot into the pudding he called his face, I was enfuriated but I managed to control it.

The red mist is what they call it innit. Anyway, next person that pulls out in front of me knowing I am there and then thinks it was jolly funny is going to get a roundhouse kick to the face through the A pillar of their car.

They should make a test, if you are too fat to look over you shoulder or check your blind corner then you cannot drive.

grrr...I need a beer.

[JayRacer37]

In fact, have a few!

I hate fat deposits that don't give a shit. It happens all too frequently, paticularly to bikes. After moving to CHCH recently it seems the driving here is even more brainless than the NI. Mettalic knuckled gloves, flip up number plate and a willingness to smash assholes windows for next time??

[DarkLord]

Good old Auckland ay?

Sorry to hear that man. It is unbelievable how stupid some people can be. You have to wonder what goes through their minds, if anything at all. I know it's not the right thing to do but personally I wouldn't have blamed you if you followed him till he pulled over and given him hell.

[Skyryder]

Yea it's the cunts that grin at ya as if they could not give a toss.

Difficult as, but they are ones that are best ignored as they are the most dangerouse due to their attitude of complete indifference to any one but themselves.



Skyryder

[ital916]

In fact, have a few!

I hate fat deposits that don't give a shit. It happens all too frequently, paticularly to bikes. After moving to CHCH recently it seems the driving here is even more brainless than the NI. Mettalic knuckled gloves, flip up number plate and a willingness to smash assholes windows for next time??

Im going to take it to the next level and just carry a chain around with me...road rash styles. (jokes)

In fact that is the saddest thing. When I came here fifteen years ago this place was nice, now after being almost run over more time than I can count, being assaulted for no reason, seeing people get mugged. Almost getting beaten up by a P fiend and his mates on the way home from uni...I've started carrying protection with me.

Biggest mistake I made was not pulling over and calming down, it was silly to ride that two minutes extra home in such a state. Cold easily have gone pear shaped.

[Swoop]

#1: Hope you got his #plate and reported him to the local plod shop; or
#2: had some fun...

[slofox]

You have to wonder what goes through their minds,

From the sounds of it, it'll be Dririder87's fist next time...or maybe his boot.

[DarkLord]

Situations like this are a real test for me.

On the one hand, it's best to just let it go and calm down, as the extent of your reaction is your problem, and as you say it is not good to ride in a highly emotional state as it can very easily go badly.

But at the same time, you desperately want to go and teach them a lesson, both to make yourself feel better and to hopefully make them think, and hopefully even learn something.

To be honest it pisses me off sometimes that the right thing to do seems to always be to calm down and let it pass as it's not worth it. That might be true but if people like that aren't taught a lesson one way or another, how long before someone else comes to grief because of them?

[ital916]

#1: Hope you got his #plate and reported him to the local plod shop; or
#2: had some fun...

I've reported people before, all thats ever happened is a "thank you we will look into it", they say they will notify me of what happens, even a email then nothing.

[gatch]

Man I really feel for you, I find it harder and harder to deal with cunts like this. One day it will get out of hand I think.

[SARGE]

Mettalic knuckled gloves, flip up number plate and a willingness to smash assholes windows for next time??

Its always worked for me :Punk:

[Squiggles]

I've reported people before, all thats ever happened is a "thank you we will look into it", they say they will notify me of what happens, even a email then nothing.

So are you going to do it or not? :mellow:

[gtr boy]

feel for you drider87.............
had a similar incedent last year..ended up smashing the cu@t and when it had all finished up in court had a bill from lawyer for $4800
have since modded my number plate so as the do gooding public can not get rego when this shit happens again
the fu@kers deserve all thats coming i reckon

[Squiggles]

I've started carrying protection with me.

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:lol:


feel for you drider87.............
had a similar incedent last year..ended up smashing the cu@t and when it had all finished up in court had a bill from lawyer for $4800
have since modded my number plate so as the do gooding public can not get rego when this shit happens again
the fu@kers deserve all thats coming i reckon

Devils advocate but i suppose you'd be happy taking the same treatment if it was you? I've seen some pretty arrogant/asshole riders in the past.
Why dont we all just form vigilante groups like what was done last year? (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10519882)

[Katman]

I wonder how many wing mirrors that driver may have lost in the past through no fault of his own.

[rosie631]

Times like that you wish you had a hammer. Straight thru the pricks windscreen. That'd wipe the smirk off his face.

[lankyman]

Carry you're used spark plugs around with you in your jacket of somthing, and when some cunt pulls this sort of shit on you, pass him, and hurtle a few across your shoulder. They make a fucken mess of bonnets/windscreens ect.

[Ragingrob]

He pulled out in front of you? But was turning left so going the same way as you?

Were you wearing your no face?

[Cheshire Cat]

:argh:CAGERS!! AAAARRRGH!!! Going down Tauranga direct road yesterday avo I had a prick in a holden UNDERTAKE me!!!:crazy: WTF!? I was going 100k and if he wanted to get past he could have overtaken me but noooo the cunt had to undertake me:2guns: and out my life in danger instead of his.

[scracha]

It's $200 for bike-cam, nuff said. Don't get mad and end up in jail. 555 the fuckers and send the video in.

[Patch]

Times like that you wish you had a hammer. Straight thru the pricks windscreen. That'd wipe the smirk off his face.
a brick through the driver's side window is much more effective to achieve those instantly desired results otherwise just note his number plate down for future reference . . .

[That looks like fun]

Hell yes, I know shit like this makes my blood boil. It would be so cool to deal with my anger by smacking the rest of the world in the head then riding off into the sunset leaving behind.... an angry motorist with even less likeing for bikes. Will he have learnt his lesson and stay home, getting out of bed only to walk as far as the phone to ring his counseller? or will he make sure he actually runs into the next bike he see's so they wont be able to get him?

I stuggle to deal with it. As a proffesional driver I get exposed to idiots all day, everyday. I get out of my truck onto my bike and they are still there!!
They aint going to go away. I cant cure this problem, nor can Mr Plod :Police: I am not very good at it (yet) but I deal with my anger then let it go. I laugh in the face of stupidity, if I didnt it would drive me mad :no:

When it gets too bad, I stop and breath, I have kids and a wife (plus all the important shit like a bike). I tell my kids a simple thing "it dont matter who was in the right and who was wrong to the dead guy"

[ital916]

I wonder how many wing mirrors that driver may have lost in the past through no fault of his own.

None from me, so he shouldnt take it out on me. Im not going to fuck up some innocent driver minding their own business just because some other car driver wronged me

[ital916]

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:lol:



Devils advocate but i suppose you'd be happy taking the same treatment if it was you? I've seen some pretty arrogant/asshole riders in the past.
Why dont we all just form vigilante groups like what was done last year? (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10519882)

vigilante action arises due to a percieved or actual lack of action from the police or policing forces from preventing crimes or dealing out sufficient punishment.

I met a couple at work who got knocked of their bike by a guy ina ute, he will get a slap with a wet bus ticket for what he did. That vigilante group the asians formed that you linked to, formed because of a lack of sufficient protection in their area. The police are amazing but they cant be around 24/7, if the descision had to be made about stopping someone myself or letting them continue to hurt people till the police arrived. I know what i would choose.

[Squiggles]

vigilante action arises due to a percieved or actual lack of action from the police or policing forces from preventing crimes or dealing out sufficient punishment.

I met a couple at work who got knocked of their bike by a guy ina ute, he will get a slap with a wet bus ticket for what he did. That vigilante group the asians formed that you linked to, formed because of a lack of sufficient protection in their area. The police are amazing but they cant be around 24/7, if the descision had to be made about stopping someone myself or letting them continue to hurt people till the police arrived. I know what i would choose.

So have you or have you not 555'd this vehicle?

[Katman]

None from me, so he shouldnt take it out on me.

You're right, he shouldn't.

It's a pity though that far too few motorcyclists stop to think how their actions impact upon other motorcyclists.

[Ragingrob]

So am I correct in saying that he just pulled out into your lane going the same direction as you a bit late? How fast were you going? Maybe he just misjudged your speed or distance... We are human after all. Maybe he was then laughing because you were making such a scene just because you had to brake a little and now you've flown in front of him and he can see a funny bullseye target on the back of a no-face helmet.

I dunno, I wasn't there, but in the city when a car pulls out but is going the same direction as you it hardly calls for immense evasive action and aggression.

Sounds like you're just adding to the good old Aucklander driving stereotype really.

[cc rider]

Glad you're OK, Drider. How did life become less precious.

When is doing what you have to, to be seen, your sentence.
Years ago the 'Workshop Dweller' was riding home on the freeway, when some old cager tried to give the HD a lap-dance by merging to the left, not looking, not caring. W/D yelled, no good, beeped, no good, gave the mirror a wack, no good, all awhile trying to move ahead. He thought he was OK until the car came up the left side Clearway & side shunted him into the path of 3 lanes of traffic.
Driver fined for changing lanes carelessly. From the Clearway? WD - multiple broken bones, rehab, got a car licence, rides less now.
There is no logic. There is only survival :no:

[cowpatz]

It's $200 for bike-cam, nuff said. Don't get mad and end up in jail. 555 the fuckers and send the video in.

Where are these bike cams available from? A great idea. Would love one for the car too.
A boot in the side of the biggest panel works a treat.

[ital916]

So am I correct in saying that he just pulled out into your lane going the same direction as you a bit late? How fast were you going? Maybe he just misjudged your speed or distance... We are human after all. Maybe he was then laughing because you were making such a scene just because you had to brake a little and now you've flown in front of him and he can see a funny bullseye target on the back of a no-face helmet.

I dunno, I wasn't there, but in the city when a car pulls out but is going the same direction as you it hardly calls for immense evasive action and aggression.

Sounds like you're just adding to the good old Aucklander driving stereotype really.

Like I said, I usually let it slide but he saw me and still pulled out, If I remember correctly a discussion at the chiller once had everyone spewing about that crash on waterloo quad, same thing. NO excuse for pulling out across traffic and yes I avoided him but it was still close and hairy.

[Swoop]

It's a pity though that far too few motorcyclists stop to think how their actions impact upon other motorcyclists.
It is also a pity, that far too few four-tyred* motorists fail to think about how their actions impact upon other road users.

*must refrain from using the term "four wheeled" since most 4-wheel drive vehicles are used in an urban setting, and NEVER have dirt under the tyres...

[Squiggles]

So are you going to do it or not? :mellow:


So have you or have you not 555'd this vehicle?

So...?
If several people encountered this dude, and just ignore it thinking what you've said below, then its no wonder nothing has been done. :mellow:


I've reported people before, all thats ever happened is a "thank you we will look into it", they say they will notify me of what happens, even a email then nothing.

[jono035]

I thought they weren't allowed to tell you if anything happened to the person because of your report? It used to be that you also had to go in and fill out some paperwork at a police station before they would do anything...

[Ragingrob]

Like I said, I usually let it slide but he saw me and still pulled out, If I remember correctly a discussion at the chiller once had everyone spewing about that crash on waterloo quad, same thing. NO excuse for pulling out across traffic and yes I avoided him but it was still close and hairy.

So he pulled across in front of you and was turning then? How did you then pass him?! From what you said I thought they pulled out into a gap in front of you going the same direction as you?

[Breed777]

I love this country, a shame about the large percentage of inbreds that inhabit it.

Had a van pull out on me today...the thing is it wasn't an "I didnt see you", it was an "I saw you but couldnt give a fuck if you crashed".

The van pulled out, I anticipated he would so managed to stop but the truck behind me was hard on the anchors, the fatty behind the wheel saw me clear as day and that is what infuriates me. I shot past him, pulled back in and then made case of point in ensuring he knew what I thought of him. I dont usually do that but this guy was a cunt. Guess what though, he was fucking pleased with himself, laughing at me. I have a family cunt face and friends and people I love who would miss me you fucking walking fat deposit, is it just me or is there a complete and utter lack for the value of others lives in this country.

Fatty kept pointing to the green light for me to go, he must have too much fat around his eyes as there was straight traffic and we were turning, so again is there a complete lack of the knowledge of road rules in this country.

He then started tailgating me and tooting his horn.

I prayed for michelin man to get out of his van and start something, I prayed I would get the chance to wedge my size 10 boot into the pudding he called his face, I was enfuriated but I managed to control it.

The red mist is what they call it innit. Anyway, next person that pulls out in front of me knowing I am there and then thinks it was jolly funny is going to get a roundhouse kick to the face through the A pillar of their car.

They should make a test, if you are too fat to look over you shoulder or check your blind corner then you cannot drive.

grrr...I need a beer.


Keep a toy hand grenade dangling off ya handle bar... pull it off and toss it through his driver window and watch the fatty jiggle!:2guns:

[scracha]

Where are these bike cams available from? A great idea. Would love one for the car too.
A boot in the side of the biggest panel works a treat.
Mr Sketchy racer. Buggerd if I know his username. I think the origin scientific cameras are about the same price. There are quite a few similarly priced ones on the market.

[Brian d marge]

If the bike was in a good road space there really shouldn't have been any stress , white van ready to pull out by fat account, ( me I'm on the brakes moving waaaay over to the right and looking for a way out of this mess , and that is as soon as I see the Fat banker )

unfortuantly its just a syptom of a wider sickness and will get worse ...kick the Cat de-stress here, move on

Its amazing how much and at what angles you can actually contact with a moving car ...without so much as of a hinderance to your travels ... 12 years as a London DR,,teaches you a few thing I supose

Good luck next time

Stephen

Watch what happens when you stop and pretend to write down number plates , the driver will freak ....

[Cheshire Cat]

Keep a toy hand grenade dangling off ya handle bar... pull it off and toss it through his driver window and watch the fatty jiggle!:2guns:

Heh heh! Road Rash!!!:clap: Remeber that PS1 game?

[Katman]

Heh heh! Road Rash!!!:clap: Remeber that PS1 game?

Last time I checked reality was somewhat different to a computer game. 'Start New Game' would be a wonderful asset in real life.

All that will be achieved by the "us versus them" mentality that proliferates this site (along with the fucking retarded chest beating that invariably accompanies it) is to take us down a path that will only end with us losing.

[gwigs]

Heh heh! Road Rash!!!:clap: Remeber that PS1 game?

Remember it I,m still playing it:laugh:

[Cheshire Cat]

Remember it I,m still playing it:laugh:

Oh! Jealous! I love that game.....the one where you can go anywhere and run people over anyway :laugh: and the police are so easy to get away from! :p

[Cheshire Cat]

Last time I checked reality was somewhat different to a computer game. 'Start New Game' would be a wonderful asset in real life.

All that will be achieved by the "us versus them" mentality that proliferates this site (along with the juvenile chest beating that accompanies it) is to take us down a path that will only end with us losing.

Playstation One game.

And it's only a bit of fun :woohoo: Don't be too serious.

Life would be straight without twisties:banana: (If I remember correctly)

[Danae]

Wtf

He actually laughed, what a wanker

[Ragingrob]

Wtf

He actually laughed, what a wanker

I laugh too whenever I see reactions like that from other road-users, I'd be laughing even harder if I know they posted a thread crying about it too :eek:

People pulling out is an everyday thing, if you don't like it, get off your bike and catch the train.

[xgnr]

Stebel
Take that fuker

http://www.stebel.it/stebel/index2006.htm

[dpex]

I love this country, a shame about the large percentage of inbreds that inhabit it.

Had a van pull out on me today...the thing is it wasn't an "I didnt see you", it was an "I saw you but couldnt give a fuck if you crashed".

The van pulled out, I anticipated he would so managed to stop but the truck behind me was hard on the anchors, the fatty behind the wheel saw me clear as day and that is what infuriates me. I shot past him, pulled back in and then made case of point in ensuring he knew what I thought of him. I dont usually do that but this guy was a cunt. Guess what though, he was fucking pleased with himself, laughing at me. I have a family cunt face and friends and people I love who would miss me you fucking walking fat deposit, is it just me or is there a complete and utter lack for the value of others lives in this country.

Fatty kept pointing to the green light for me to go, he must have too much fat around his eyes as there was straight traffic and we were turning, so again is there a complete lack of the knowledge of road rules in this country.

He then started tailgating me and tooting his horn.

I prayed for michelin man to get out of his van and start something, I prayed I would get the chance to wedge my size 10 boot into the pudding he called his face, I was enfuriated but I managed to control it.

The red mist is what they call it innit. Anyway, next person that pulls out in front of me knowing I am there and then thinks it was jolly funny is going to get a roundhouse kick to the face through the A pillar of their car.

They should make a test, if you are too fat to look over you shoulder or check your blind corner then you cannot drive.

grrr...I need a beer.

I have experienced quite similar events, several times.

May I suggest you realign your view of such twerps if, for no other reason than saving damage to your heart via hypertension.

Tits like the fat guy have zero ego. He's fat, ugly, probably smells bad, has a class-G labourer's job (if employed at all) and, in all respects is an utter loser who screws up something during almost every hour of his life.

I'll lay odds he didn't actually see you. That he turned then saw you. His reflex to this cock-up; as with all his other daily cock-ups would have been, 'It wasn't my fault! I......' and then the excuses for cocking up would have flowed through his meagre brain.

But he is a big, fat guy, probably used to violence; in fact violence is probably his sole solution to all predicaments facing him, hour by hour.

But such folk are essentially cowards. That you did not attempt to bring him to immediate justice would have made him presume you were a pussy. That's why he felt able to further harass you.

I have met many such fat weaklings. When you face them down they turn to apologetic jelly, filled with bluster.

You stand close to them, face-to-face, and let them bluster till they're all out of bluster and, suddenly, they see the danger you represent. Silent. Intense.

Silent, intense folk scare the shit out of cowardly blusterers. You see, the blusterer needs feed-back to establish the value of his bluster. Deny him that and you kick out his legs.

So, do you see the point here? You can turn on these dicks and show them up for what they are (but what is your profit other than your own assuaged ego) or you can see beyond that point, know you are way better and that such junk is not worth your emotional attention or your time; and certainly not your physical attention.

Me? I allow myself to blaze for a few seconds then let the fire go. I figure there are much more valuable aspects to life than getting even with a fat, dilapidated, loser. And when I don't react I know that they know that I have treated their aspirations (imagined) as being a tough-guy, with utter disdain.

And that is the biggest kick in the balls you can give any man with zero ego.

[Ragingrob]

Wow this guy is certainly taking a lotta flak when we don't even know the full story/story at all!

Maybe he just misjudged a gap pulling out, like thousands of other people every day. He was genuinely sorry but then the biker was the initial aggressor so the driver thought it'd be funny to give some back.

Not hard to believe.

[HungusMaximist]

Well, it would've been satisfying to deck the cunt but you got to remember that he's in a ute/van and that you're on a bike.

*555 or 111 next time and say that he deliberately tried tried to run you off the road. At the heat of the moment I know how fucken hard it is to let go, but tell you what, for your safety sake, it's for the best.

Given the opportunity or as a last resort (when your life is in danger), could do with taking his mirror off but you better gap it fast cuz if he comes after you with the van as a battling ram, you're toast!

[Marmoot]

I love this country, a shame about the large percentage of inbreds that inhabit it.

Had a van pull out on me today...the thing is it wasn't an "I didnt see you", it was an "I saw you but couldnt give a fuck if you crashed".

Dirty asian drivers eh. Gotta hate them!

[ital916]

I laugh too whenever I see reactions like that from other road-users, I'd be laughing even harder if I know they posted a thread crying about it too :eek:

People pulling out is an everyday thing, if you don't like it, get off your bike and catch the train.

Bwahaha you've had cries about other drivers and I've already said Idont usually care or react. If Only I could direct a train through remuera, then them people pulling out in front of me will think twice.

[ital916]

Wow this guy is certainly taking a lotta flak when we don't even know the full story/story at all!

Maybe he just misjudged a gap pulling out, like thousands of other people every day. He was genuinely sorry but then the biker was the initial aggressor so the driver thought it'd be funny to give some back.

Not hard to believe.

Maybe that car on waterloo just misjudged the gap...in the end I guess not. Maybe that car that pulled a u turn in front of the couple I met just misjudged the gap, I guess that scooter rider I saw get donked off a few weeks ago just didnt mind that the driver just misjudged the gap.

Stop trying to get a reaction rob, I'm sure you have better things to do.

[SARGE]

The police are amazing but they cant be around 24/7,

how come they can in every other developed nation?...



less tax money on the dole bloggers and more on Police

[Ragingrob]

Maybe that car on waterloo just misjudged the gap...in the end I guess not. Maybe that car that pulled a u turn in front of the couple I met just misjudged the gap, I guess that scooter rider I saw get donked off a few weeks ago just didnt mind that the driver just misjudged the gap.

Stop trying to get a reaction rob, I'm sure you have better things to do.

Why can you not answer me in terms of which way the car was going?! So we actually know what happened. Was he turning into the same lane and direction as you? Or pulling right out across your lane going the other way?

And yes I'm pretty sure they all did misjudge the gap or not see the biker, they did not purposefully crash into them, that is totally different to what you're saying here.

[ital916]

Why can you not answer me in terms of which way the car was going?! So we actually know what happened. Was he turning into the same lane and direction as you? Or pulling right out across your lane going the other way?

And yes I'm pretty sure they all did misjudge the gap or not see the biker, they did not purposefully crash into them, that is totally different to what you're saying here.

He was going the same direction as me, I saw him and slowed, he saw me and stopped pulling out, then just as I get up to him he then decides to pull out right in front of me then he stops *that was a wierd bit* bocking two lanes of traffic. No swerving room as a car back and to my right, with a truck on my tail. By then I've come to a stop just shy of his bumper, he takes off, I ride the bike around him and cut in front.

No question of if he saw me..he bloody well saw me.

[caseye]

"Keep a toy hand grenade dangling off ya handle bar... pull it off and toss it through his driver window and watch the fatty jiggle!"

Love this for a response, wonder how it'd go though if he crashed and still had your rego, better hope you wern't a licenced firearms holder cause you wouldn't be anymore!Oh and of course there would be other innocent motorists involved.Na it'd be too much response if that happened.

Dri, was this lard arse driving a marked company vehicle?
If so the most effective thing I've ever done was to ring the co, concerned and ask for the BOSS! not the wimpy manager , the boss/owner.
After taking a few minutes to explain the reason for my call the guy told me straight up, that "he was sick of this employee,this was the third call in 2 weeks".
so you see what goes around comes around, this guy got fired for being a dangereous barstard in a co vehicle, though that has other reprecussions for him and his family it at least got the prick off the road.I'm not silly, he was most likely in a car again very quickly, but I can hope that he learned something from the whole being fired for being a dangereous barstard in his past companies vehicle.
555 is another option.Usually not effewctive unless backed by by other calls or as below.
So is asking witnesses for cooberation in writing.
The bike cam sounds like the bees knees to me though.

[Katman]

this guy got fired for being a dangereous barstard in a co vehicle

It wasn't an ice-cream van by any chance, was it?

[caseye]

Na it was a small electrical repair company actually.

[FJRider]

how come they can in every other developed nation?...





That would depend on your interpretation of "developed"

Developed nations know a competent Police force is essential to their cause.