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dpex
10th June 2009, 19:32
I saw it again, tonight, coming over the Greenhithe motorway.

Came on and saw, about a click ahead, a dude on a bike. He was pootling at lawful speed. I hove up to within half a click and he went a bit faster.

By the bottom of the bridge the traffic had come to a near standstill. He started lane-splitting. So did I.

Then I turned left an used the wide open stuff. Suddenly, he was behind but came into my track and followed.

We got to the next left-hander, with a wide strip in the middle. I saw him come. He passed. Like he 'had' to pass.

Funny old thing, biker ego and being passed.

YellowDog
10th June 2009, 19:42
I think it is one of those maturity things.

If I see someone with a better bike than I have I admire it and give the thumbs up to the rider. I have witnessed so much jeallousy from owners of inferior models.

I guess I must be similar in some ways to your guy, but I would say that it is not the bikes, but the riders. I actually prefer to follow someone moving at a good pace. It is certainly a lot safer.

hospitalfood
10th June 2009, 19:52
i love the testosterone fueled challenges on the road. sometimes i play and sometimes i dont depending on my demerits.
i like getting the learn almost as much as giving the learn.

i hate it when i get blitzed by kids on tricycles but

98tls
10th June 2009, 19:59
I think it is one of those maturity things.

If I see someone with a better bike than I have I admire it and give the thumbs up to the rider. I have witnessed so much jeallousy from owners of inferior models.

I guess I must be similar in some ways to your guy, but I would say that it is not the bikes, but the riders. I actually prefer to follow someone moving at a good pace. It is certainly a lot safer. I ride an "inferior" model though its by choice,no jealousy from me but much satisfaction tucking in behind those on superior models.:yes:

grusomhat
10th June 2009, 19:59
I quite enjoy seeing how long I can keep up with the bigger bikes.

Maha
10th June 2009, 20:00
Had a similar thing today, a local contractor pulled out of a driveway on woodcocks rd (the Warkworth end) which was ok, he was about 100mts ahead of me, I was sitting on about 120, thought I would crack passed him on the straight that we were on, but no, he reached 130 and increasing. Wasn't long that we were doing (well lets just say had there been a police person around we would both be walking) my ego aint big enough that I need to prove a point.

CookMySock
10th June 2009, 20:05
I don't mind being passed. It's just a matter of time before they are not concentrating, and oops, they get passed hehe. It's important it's just a game, and not life and death.

Steve

Rayray401
10th June 2009, 20:10
meh, similiar thing happened to me on the 250..was on bridge..lane splitting, not very fast...gixxer out of nowhere zooms past me while im in the mid of 2 lanes..gave me such a fright ><...i get intimidated by bikes behind me when lane splitting too..makes me think whether im going too fast or too slow..

Subike
10th June 2009, 20:14
I ride an "inferior" model though its by choice,no jealousy from me but much satisfaction tucking in behind those on superior models.:yes:

This sums up my enjoyment completly.

FROSTY
10th June 2009, 20:16
Im getting so old n blind I have to catch up and pass just to figure out what the bike is :Oops:

kunoichi
10th June 2009, 21:28
meh, similiar thing happened to me on the 250..was on bridge..lane splitting, not very fast...gixxer out of nowhere zooms past me while im in the mid of 2 lanes..gave me such a fright ><...i get intimidated by bikes behind me when lane splitting too..makes me think whether im going too fast or too slow..

I went for a slide along the motorway once because a biker was talegating me while lane spliting once!:bash: I had my L plate on, wen i saw him, i indicated left to merge into the trafic and let him pass, but he cudn't wait (musta been busting for the loo or something) and clipped my mirror in passing! I got such a fright i turned my handlebars sharply out of the way and (especially since it was wet) my bike and i went for a slide along the motorway! I got a nice scar on my hip and my bike is scratched up. Bastard didn't even stop (he shuda seen me come off if he looked in his mirror after he clipped me).

I don't mind racing or hooning behind a bigger bike in traffic, but hell, not cutting it so close or being dangerous!:angry2:

shafty
10th June 2009, 22:11
I confess; if I see another bike ahead, I like to catch up, just to see who /what it is and give a wave!

NighthawkNZ
10th June 2009, 22:15
I ride an "inferior" model though its by choice,no jealousy from me but much satisfaction tucking in behind those on superior models.:yes:


This sums up my enjoyment completly.

I would have to agree...

scumdog
10th June 2009, 22:16
I like seeing how many bikes pass me on the way to a rally...I don't have an ego.

98tls
10th June 2009, 22:19
I like seeing how many bikes pass me on the way to a rally...I don't have an ego. :argh:Xactly,i recall whilst having a chunder in a gorse bush you guys going passed me on the other side of the hill going to Woodstock.

CookMySock
10th June 2009, 22:26
I got such a fright i turned my handlebars sharply out of the way and (especially since it was wet) my bike and i went for a slide along the motorway!That is an important lesson for learners. While I agree the person is an asshole for spooking a newbie like that, it is almost always the ensuing panic that kills you, and not so much the scary thing itself. :pinch:

If I'm riding behind one of my newbies, I'll do an exaggerated finger-point at their L plate for the benefit of following traffic that is coming up quickly. I haven't really had something go bad yet - not that I didn't inadvertently create myself, anyway. :Oops:

Ya learn ya lessons and ya carries on.

Steve

Laxi
10th June 2009, 22:27
I'm just to damn good to have an ego;)

kunoichi
10th June 2009, 22:28
Well i learned that i gota be more confident in my riding skills, but it's not me that had a lesson to learn, it's the other dick on the road to give newbs a chance.

AllanB
10th June 2009, 22:32
Meh - pass me if you desire. I gave up giving a hoot - I'd rather have them in front where I can see them instead of crowding my rear tyre like a P-fuelled arse bandit.
Besides if I start to tangle and get out of my personal comfort zone I start to f-up all the corners :angry2:

Jb7
10th June 2009, 23:04
meh, similiar thing happened to me on the 250..was on bridge..lane splitting, not very fast...gixxer out of nowhere zooms past me while im in the mid of 2 lanes..gave me such a fright ><...i get intimidated by bikes behind me when lane splitting too..makes me think whether im going too fast or too slow..

I think this was me, sorry if I gave you a fright. If I remember correctly you'd slightly pulled over and I thought you were giving me room, so I did the normal thing hit the gas and cruised through.

Although who knows what it a yellow gixxer?

Jb7
10th June 2009, 23:11
That is an important lesson for learners. While I agree the person is an asshole for spooking a newbie like that, it is almost always the ensuing panic that kills you, and not so much the scary thing itself. :pinch:

If I'm riding behind one of my newbies, I'll do an exaggerated finger-point at their L plate for the benefit of following traffic that is coming up quickly. I haven't really had something go bad yet - not that I didn't inadvertently create myself, anyway. :Oops:

Ya learn ya lessons and ya carries on.

Steve

Nothing wrong with a good spooking, it keeps you fucken alert afterwards - talking from personal experiences. But seriously if you're on a 250 with no balls lane splitting up the bridge you should pull in and let bigger bikes past you rather than hog the centre lane. Even more so if you're just learning and get spooked easily haha.

*Note no way do I condone the riding of the muppet who caused that accident, that was pure misjudgement and stupidness by the sounds of things*

munterk6
10th June 2009, 23:17
I'm just to damn good to have an ego;)

my thoughts exackerly!!!!

another gin?

howdamnhard
10th June 2009, 23:27
I went for a slide along the motorway once because a biker was talegating me while lane spliting once! I got a nice scar on my hip and my bike is scratched up.

I take it you were in your corduras and not leathers. I hate anything tail gating me, cage or bike. If I think I'm holding up some one I let them past.Normally I like going slightly faster than the prevailing traffic so don't have to worry about traffic behind me. Remember to treat everyone on the road as idiots biker and cager alike. I know because I've done some dumb arsed things whilst on my bike to.:scooter:

Indiana_Jones
10th June 2009, 23:34
I have witnessed so much jeallousy from owners of inferior models.

So everyone not on a Triumph then? :lol:

But seriously, some people seem to take it real personal when you over take etc, really odd

-Indy

The Stranger
10th June 2009, 23:47
I have witnessed so much jeallousy from owners of inferior models.


On a trumpet? Sure it wasn't ridicule?

Subike
11th June 2009, 19:58
But seriously, some people seem to take it real personal when you over take etc, really odd

-Indy

especially when the bike you ride is 30 years old and thiers is a " top of the line" new sports bike ! lol Some fellas just need the learn....

p.dath
11th June 2009, 22:09
I agree with the others. This does tend to be age related.

I have to say though that getting a chance to go to track day and get it out of your system helps as well.

The Stranger
11th June 2009, 23:03
.i get intimidated by bikes behind me when lane splitting too..makes me think whether im going too fast or too slow..


Lead, follow or get out the raod.

If I am splitting and someone is obviously quicker than I care to be, I pull into the traffic and in order to remove any doubt as to what I am doing, I wave them through. Simple and no misunderstandings. Pull in behind them and use them as your decoy if you like.

Conversley If I see someone ahead, splitting or not, I am likely to speed up and catch them. Please understand this is not jealousy, having a go or small penis syndrome. It is self preservation. There are many good reasons why there is safety (from other road users) in numbers.

roogazza
12th June 2009, 09:19
When i was younger I had to win by a week, now I'm happy to tuck in behind . I'll back off if i feel the person in front is in over his head.(and thats more often than you'd think !) I must have finally matured ? G.

kiwifruit
12th June 2009, 09:23
Nobody has ever passed me

vifferman
12th June 2009, 09:23
He passed. Like he 'had' to pass.
It's the Wacky Races. Why should bikers be excluded from it? :rolleyes:

Yeah, dpex - it bugs me too. Even though (from the inferences and aspersions the CBR1000RRR KBer at work keeps throwing my way) the VFR is obviously ghey, old, and I'm ghey, old and slow, every biker I see on my daily communteringexpedition wants to race me. They should tell me that, by leaning forward and blipping the throttle, and giving me the nod, so I can pretend I'm joining in, then laugh as they tear off into the traffic like a dork while I just ride at whatever speed I feel like. (I usually catch up and pass them anyway: wisdom, cunning, and experience usually outweigh enthusiasm and hormones....)

Skyryder
12th June 2009, 11:18
My ego has been known to 'pass' me at times, giving me the bird as it goes by.



Skyryder

The Stranger
12th June 2009, 13:03
I saw him come. He passed. Like he 'had' to pass.


I'm intrigued. What gave you the impression he passed "Like he 'had' to pass"?

vifferman
12th June 2009, 13:22
I'm intrigued. What gave you the impression he passed "Like he 'had' to pass"?
I know the one - desperate to get past at all costs.
It's kinda self-evident from the way they ride.

The Stranger
12th June 2009, 13:45
I know the one - desperate to get past at all costs.
It's kinda self-evident from the way they ride.

The majority of posts on this thread consist of people making assuptions about other's state of mind, intent or purpose.
Quite frankly it is just as pathetic to assume you know what another driver/rider is thinking as it would be for the guy who overtook dpex to think he "won".
Granted, there are often clues - such as racing of an engine or rocking forward at the lights.
However, I would bet that the majority of times intent is misconstrued.
For example, my old man is blind as a bat so sits inches from the car in front. This is commonly mistaken for agression, it's not, it's stupidity, combined with poor eyesight.

Read my sig, Hanlon is right.

The Stranger
12th June 2009, 14:01
The majority of posts on this thread consist of people making assuptions about other's state of mind, intent or purpose.
Quite frankly it is just as pathetic to assume you know what another driver/rider is thinking as it would be for the guy who overtook dpex to think he "won".
Granted, there are often clues - such as racing of an engine or rocking forward at the lights.
However, I would bet that the majority of times intent is misconstrued.
For example, my old man is blind as a bat so sits inches from the car in front. This is commonly mistaken for agression, it's not, it's stupidity, combined with poor eyesight.

Read my sig, Hanlon is right.

Ergo the person with the ego problem is not the guy overtaking.

Maha
12th June 2009, 14:06
Read my sig, Hanlon is right.

He sang 'Damn the Dam' years ago didnt he??

White Boots
12th June 2009, 14:34
I like passing the big sports bikes with the guys fully kited out in there race gear, well when im in the corners that is. :2thumbsup

Maha
12th June 2009, 14:38
I like passing the big sports bikes with the guys fully kited out in there race gear, well when im in the corners that is. :2thumbsup

But but, the look is all to important!!
Some girls wont go outside without makeup, same with some bikers.

Maki
12th June 2009, 15:16
I have a crazy ego but its ok since I have the mad skillz to back it up. :woohoo:

suckingair
12th June 2009, 16:09
Generally I let people go first.. I mean, someone has to be the bait for the cops, and I've paid my fair share of fines.