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LaytonNZ
16th June 2009, 20:25
Thoughts on these helmets

LS2

V-Can

Do they have a bad name ect?

Hitcher
16th June 2009, 20:32
Ask Dot Snell. She's the authority on helmets.

White Boots
16th June 2009, 20:40
The old story man, what you pay for is what you get, but when you get over the $500 mark your paying for comfort rather then more protection.

Sensei
16th June 2009, 20:54
You pay $500-1200 you don't hope it is going to protect your head you demand it !!! Comfort is standard from buying quailty helmets from tested & trusted brand makers Arai / Shoei / AGV / etc

p.dath
16th June 2009, 20:57
Check the UK Government Helmet testing site:
http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/

I just checked both these helmets and neither of them is rated.

That being the case I would avoid them. There might be a reason why the manufacturers have not had them tested ...

Headbanger
16th June 2009, 20:59
I just bought an LS2 Highway, shes light, very comfortable, quiet, and meets enough safety standards for me to be more then happy.

I personally think high end helmets are a bit of a wank, But that's just me.

p.dath
16th June 2009, 21:01
I just bought an LS2 Highway, shes light, very comfortable, quiet, and meets enough safety standards for me to be more then happy.

I personally think high end helmets are a bit of a wank, But that's just me.

The other shitter is that you are meant to replace your helmet every 5 years. I'm much more inclined to do that with a reasonably priced helmet. If I had something that cost $1000 I probably wouldn't want to give it up.

Headbanger
16th June 2009, 21:04
I replace mine every two years.

Don't really know why.....:confused:

hayd3n
16th June 2009, 21:08
my m2r is great and is snell assured

James Deuce
16th June 2009, 21:11
I personally think high end helmets are a bit of a wank, But that's just me.

No it isn't just you. Professor Harry Hurt and Motorcyclist magazine came to that conclusion definitively after testing many helmets using DOT's own testing methodology to test many helmets, from cheap to expensive.

Amongst some of the conclusions, was that being able to withstand high G impacts grossly in excess of the standard's requirement was not necessarily a good thing, as the shell had gotten so hard in certain areas to exceed the standard's requirements in a marketable way, as to increase the amount of force transferred to the head in those areas. Shoei and Arai threw a major hissy fit and stopped adevertising in Motorcyclist.

Motorcyclist rated many of the bottom end polycarbonate helmets over the super expensive fibreglass/composite helmets.

James Deuce
16th June 2009, 21:14
my m2r is great and is snell assured
The following is a list of the standards that helemts in NZ have to meet one or more of.


UN/ECE Regulation No. 22: Protective helmets and their visors for drivers and passengers of motor cycles and mopeds ( Europe)
Australian Standard AS 1698: Protective helmets for vehicle users
New Zealand Standard NZ 5430: Protective helmets for vehicle users
Snell Memorial Foundation: Helmet Standard for use in motorcycling
Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 218: Motor-cycle helmets
British Standard BS 6658: Specification for protective helmets for vehicle users (for type A helmets only)
Japan Industrial Standard T8133.

If you wear your helmet in Australia is MUST have the following marking on it in an easily visible place:
<img src=http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/road-user-safety/motorcyclists/gfx/as-standards-mark.jpg>

Probably a good time to bring this up again.
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/index.html

Grahameeboy
16th June 2009, 21:14
I replace mine every two years.

Don't really know why.....:confused:

Too much headbanging per chance??

Headbanger
16th June 2009, 21:18
This is an interesting read.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-helmets/ece-22-05.htm

Of extra interest (to me anyway) is the LS2 helmet has the ECE 22.05 certification, the article hints that this is the superior standard due to batch testing, and that any helmet that meets it will exceed the DOT rating.


Helmets certified to the ECE 22.05 standard are approved for competition events by AMA, CCS, FIM, Formula-USA and WERA and are chosen by nearly every professional motorcycle racers competing in world championship road racing, motocross and off road events, including the ultimate sport of Moto GP. Helmets that are certified to both DOT and ECE 22.05 offer the highest level of realistic protection with the added benefit of light weight for day-long comfort and rider performance.

hayd3n
16th June 2009, 21:30
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snell m2000
dot approved
Australian standerd
as 1609 visor
1698 helmet
http://www.webbikeworld.com/r3/discount-motorcycle-helmet/
all that means i hava $65us head lol
but its still in great nick after 2 years no broken bits nope nuffing all good and daily worn as i dont have a car
i wear a bandanna to protect the internals of my helmet and wash the liner every 3months or so

nallac
16th June 2009, 23:04
I've got an LS2 flipfront..wish i hadn't bought it.:no:

Noisy as hell,really fucking noisy.

Poor fitting helmets,seems like medium,large and x-large all use the same shell size with more or less padding.I'm normally a med size had to get a large LS2 just to get my head in it.


Shoulda bought another HJC....

Headbanger
16th June 2009, 23:12
I've got an LS2 flipfront..wish i hadn't bought it.:no:

Noisy as hell,really fucking noisy.

Poor fitting helmets,seems like medium,large and x-large all use the same shell size with more or less padding.I'm normally a med size had to get a large LS2 just to get my head in it.


Shoulda bought another HJC....

Interesting, The HJC I tried suffered from small sizing, Presumably due to using the same sized shell for the entire range, while the LS2 I bought is great for my giant head.

As for noise, I have a Nolan Flip-face, Its the nosiest helmet I have ever used, and turning my head sideways causes it to howl, Its caught me out a few times. Based on that I won't be buying another flip-face helmet....So far I haven't even been able to give it away.

nallac
16th June 2009, 23:19
Based on that I won't be buying another flip-face helmet....So far I haven't even been able to give it away.


Me to, might be handy to have a flip front but not worth the extra noise.
well not with a LS2 maybe a Shuberth?...

With my Ls2, I have to open flip front ,pull sides out with straps as I put it on as it tries to rip my ears off...then once its on its slightly to loose...

SARGE
16th June 2009, 23:37
The following is a list of the standards that helemts in NZ have to meet one or more of.


UN/ECE Regulation No. 22: Protective helmets and their visors for drivers and passengers of motor cycles and mopeds ( Europe)
Australian Standard AS 1698: Protective helmets for vehicle users
New Zealand Standard NZ 5430: Protective helmets for vehicle users
Snell Memorial Foundation: Helmet Standard for use in motorcycling
Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 218: Motor-cycle helmets
British Standard BS 6658: Specification for protective helmets for vehicle users (for type A helmets only)
Japan Industrial Standard T8133.

If you wear your helmet in Australia is MUST have the following marking on it in an easily visible place:
<img src=http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/road-user-safety/motorcyclists/gfx/as-standards-mark.jpg>

Probably a good time to bring this up again.
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/index.html

so why is is such a bitch to find a Simpson in NZ? .. they have Snell and FMVS

Headbanger
16th June 2009, 23:37
Me to, might be handy to have a flip front but not worth the extra noise.


Just to be a nosy ...

Do you find the flip-front to be handy?

I found that I never opened her up unless I was taking off, in which case it just added an extra step.

Never had the desire to wear any helmet into a servo...

Never had the inclination to open it up while riding either, Though I do have the visor open almost exclusively. I'd remove the visor entirely if it didn't ad so much comfort in the rain.

nallac
17th June 2009, 11:26
Just to be a nosy ...

Do you find the flip-front to be handy?

I found that I never opened her up unless I was taking off, in which case it just added an extra step.

Never had the desire to wear any helmet into a servo...

Never had the inclination to open it up while riding either, Though I do have the visor open almost exclusively. I'd remove the visor entirely if it didn't ad so much comfort in the rain.

yip found it handy as a smoker riding with non smokers,makes it easy to have
a quick fag(the cigarette kind, not the carver kind) at regroup time.

I hardly open it bar smoko breaks and getting the pile of crap on...

I'm the same, remove it at gassy's etc.

In saying that I use it maybe once every couple of months, as its shit.
Gotta keep trying it now and then to see if it somehow gets better
just sitting in the shed....
Unfortunately I'm Still waiting for the helmet fairys to fix it.

jim.cox
17th June 2009, 11:32
I won't be buying another flip-face helmet....So far I haven't even been able to give it away.

I'm with you on that

I had a BMW flip front helmet that I did give away

Nasty noisy leaky piece of crap

Never again

xwhatsit
17th June 2009, 11:45
This is an interesting read.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-helmets/ece-22-05.htm

Of extra interest (to me anyway) is the LS2 helmet has the ECE 22.05 certification, the article hints that this is the superior standard due to batch testing, and that any helmet that meets it will exceed the DOT rating.
Heh... my open face is 22.05 rated. Could I use it in MotoGP?

LaytonNZ
19th June 2009, 14:15
Iv'e Brought a HJC Despite asking those questions!:D Its awesome, White with grey Mushrooms!

jim.cox
19th June 2009, 15:55
:D Its awesome, White with grey Mushrooms!


What? Its gone mouldy already? :)