Hazzard County

[scumdog]

..if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. .

What?
And miss all this fun?
Not bloody likely!

[SixPackBack]

I'd guess they muzzle themselves; wouldn't want the truth getting out about their own actions now would they?

There's always a pattern on kb when police behaviour is brought into question. Some kb coppers go to ground and say little or nothing while others bite your leg off like a rabid terrier. The cops try to defend themselves with comments like "you wouldn't/couldn't do my job" and "I have to deal the scum of the earth every day" etc etc ad infinitum. However, they choose their job, nobody forces them into it so...if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. Putting that blue uniform on makes you a target and it could be said that wearing a black leather jacket and riding a Harley does the same thing, only in reverse.

The cops stick together and have their own code of silence, just as other social groups do (honour amongst thieves etc.). However, when the cops screw up they have immense backing (especially financial) to cover it up and/or discredit those who might criticize them or attempt to face up to them and exercise their rights. Generally speaking Joe Average doesn't have that luxury. Legal Aid lawyers tend not to be the best, the best are expensive and even if you win the chances of getting your money back are slim. The cops know this and play on the fact that many people will simply 'roll over' because the fight is too immense for them.

When someone feels hard done by thanks to an officious cop then kb is one place to vent and compare notes with others who have been treated similarly; go hard I say. If kb cops don't like what they see/read they can always sign out.

.........Equally sick are the coppers that take pleasure in the misfortune of others and/or believe absolutely nothing a civilian has to say.
Scumdog falls into that category.......

[scumdog]

.........Equally sick are the coppers that take pleasure in the misfortune of others and/or believe absolutely nothing a civilian has to say.
Scumdog falls into that category.......

Lies, lies I tells ya!!!! - I don't believe you:devil2:

[Hinny]

Yeah well if fitting new tyres and fork-seals and a belt counts as 'breaking down' I guess they do.....
:Pokey:

Fork seals ... pulling wheelies again eh Scummy?

[Patrick]

No law allows arrest on sight without a warrant.


Ya what? :gob: Most of my lockups have been without a warrant....:shit:

23 years of gettin it wrong. Bugger!


Extent is not qualified?

Original comment was based on patrick's [a copper!] assertion that he knows quite a few coppers that have been busted for drink/driving. Additionally my wife works with the police-I know what the fuckers get up to allright!





My assertion was "I know of quite a few" with emphasis on the "few."

Maybe 12 or so in 23 years. There will be more. I don't know of all of them.

They were the stupid ones. The not so stupid made other arrangements.

To say they get away with it is .... :shit:

[The Stranger]

My assertion was "I know of quite a few" with emphasis on the "few."



Sttttrrrrrreeeeeetttttttcccccch.
"A few" would have emphasis on "few"
"Quite a few" implies considerably more than "few"

[SixPackBack]

Ya what? :gob: Most of my lockups have been without a warrant....:shit:

23 years of gettin it wrong. Bugger!

So you never get it wrong Patrick?

My assertion was "I know of quite a few" with emphasis on the "few."

Maybe 12 or so in 23 years. There will be more. I don't know of all of them.

They were the stupid ones. The not so stupid made other arrangements.

To say they get away with it is .... :shit:

Human resources must be biting the force in the arse!...odds on some of the piss heads that got booted out for DIC would have been displaying questionable behaviour well before being rounded up. HR would undoubtedly dealt with them with kid gloves, the result being DIC, booted out and another scar against the coppers that are performing well.
One bad cop can do so much damage to the collective image.

[peasea]

Human resources must be biting the force in the arse!...odds on some of the piss heads that got booted out for DIC would have been displaying questionable behaviour well before being rounded up. HR would undoubtedly dealt with them with kid gloves, the result being DIC, booted out and another scar against the coppers that are performing well.
One bad cop can do so much damage to the collective image.

Just like errant bikers can damage the reputation of good, upstanding citizens such as myself.

[SixPackBack]

Just like errant bikers can damage the reputation of good, upstanding citizens such as myself.

Really I thought you wus either a cop or a crim....your stance has always confused me:mellow:

[peasea]

Really I thought you wus either a cop or a crim....your stance has always confused me:mellow:

A cop?
A cop?

That's faaaaarkin' funny. No, I'm not a cop, never have been, never will be, wouldn't ride with one (if I knew about said cop) and while I have drunk with a few in the past (coz one was a rellie but he perf'd out) all I ever saw was a bunch of reasons to a) never drink with them again and b) not ever trust one.

You're welcome to stay confused though.

Cop....crackup.

[Ixion]

The hexadorsal gentleman did specifiy an alternative :devil2:

[SixPackBack]

The hexadorsal gentleman did specifiy an alternative :devil2:

Yes I did. Crim by default.....least he's not that nasty ginga:shit:

[peasea]

Yes I did. Crim by default.....least he's not that nasty ginga:shit:

I DO have a wee record, never done time tho'. Not a ginga neeva.

[Hinny]

Just like errant bikers can damage the reputation of good, upstanding citizens such as myself.

And me...:yes:

[peasea]

And me...:yes:

One of us is taking the piss, right?

[scumdog]

wouldn't ride with one (if I knew about said cop) and while I have drunk with a few in the past (coz one was a rellie but he perf'd out) all I ever saw was a bunch of reasons to a) never drink with them again and b) not ever trust one.

Ah well, I guess we won't be seeing you at the Annual South Island Annual KB Gathering then??:shifty:

Maybe in turn I should stay away too - after all some there could have a criminal record so I could equally say 'wouldn't ride with one (if I knew about said criminal) and while I've drunk with a few in the past (coz one was a rellie but he...oh, hang one, that won't work) all I saw was a bunch of reasons to a) never drink with one again and b) not ever trust one':blink:

Nothing like cutting your nose off to spite your face is there?:innocent:

[Hinny]

One of us is taking the piss, right?

You are in the best position to judge that.


Ah well, I guess we won't be seeing you at the Annual South Island Annual KB Gathering then??:shifty:

I might be seeing you.:scooter::Punk:

[peasea]

Ah well, I guess we won't be seeing you at the Annual South Island Annual KB Gathering then??:shifty:

Maybe in turn I should stay away too - after all some there could have a criminal record so I could equally say 'wouldn't ride with one (if I knew about said criminal) and while I've drunk with a few in the past (coz one was a rellie but he...oh, hang one, that won't work) all I saw was a bunch of reasons to a) never drink with one again and b) not ever trust one':blink:

Nothing like cutting your nose off to spite your face is there?:innocent:

It's nothing like that at all, how do you figure that? Oh, hang on, you just don't get it some days but then it's probably down to your training.

I had no intention of going on kb gathering anyway. I make my own decisions and I'm happy with them, my life simply doesn't include cops these days unless they're out to extort money.

[Ixion]

I DO have a wee record, never done time tho'. Not a ginga neeva.

Well, in 2007/8 760,920 of New Zealanders joined the ranks of heinous criminals. Don't know the figure for 2008/9, but it's going to be higher. So you're in pretty good company.

Nowadays pretty much every NZ adult is deemed a criminal by the police. Which may account for why people are less likely to dob in the *real* criminals.

After all, since the cops regard my driving at 111kph as being on a par with the activities of Mr Asia, or Mr Weatherston , why should I bother to assist them in their actvitieis agaianst my fellow criminals ?

[peasea]

Well, in 2007/8 760,920 of New Zealanders joined the ranks of heinous criminals. Don't know the figure for 2008/9, but it's going to be higher. So you're in pretty good company.

Nowadays pretty much every NZ adult is deemed a criminal by the police. Which may account for why people are less likely to dob in the *real* criminals.

After all, since the cops regard my driving at 111kph as being on a par with the activities of Mr Asia, or Mr Weatherston , why should I bother to assist them in their actvitieis agaianst my fellow criminals ?

True. I've never been able to get my head around the fact that (alleged) speedsters get fined for popping 111kph on perfect roads on perfect days but carve someone up and you get three meals a day, tv, access to a library, can put yourself through Uni' and get your teeth fixed. (Amongst other things.)

[onearmedbandit]

After all, since the cops regard my driving at 111kph as being on a par with the activities of Mr Asia, or Mr Weatherston

Ok I've missed most of this thread and can't be arsed reading through it all, so I'll assume you're taking the piss with that comment. Also your 700,000+ plus figure would be for total convictions I assume. What percentage of that number are already in that most heinous group?

[Ixion]

Goodness me, no. The total list of depravity (http://www.police.govt.nz/resources/index.html#annualreport) is 1474609. 760920 is only the figure for us really dangerous antisocial criminals.

[onearmedbandit]

Sorry, the way I read your post suggests that an additional 700,000 'newbies' (ie had no previous convictions) joined this group. I looked at your link but couldn't find the exact figure reference (once again, too lazy to search through it all) so is this what you are saying?

[scumdog]

True. I've never been able to get my head around the fact that (alleged) speedsters get fined for popping 111kph on perfect roads on perfect days but carve someone up and you get three meals a day, tv, access to a library, can put yourself through Uni' and get your teeth fixed. (Amongst other things.)

Too right - the 'punishments' should be swapped.

Just think how much safer the street would be...

[scumdog]

Well, in 2007/8 760,920 of New Zealanders joined the ranks of heinous criminals. Don't know the figure for 2008/9, but it's going to be higher. So you're in pretty good company.

Nowadays pretty much every NZ adult is deemed a criminal by the police. Which may account for why people are less likely to dob in the *real* criminals.



So in ten years every New Zealander would have joined 'the ranks of heinious criminals eh?' (Give or take).

Oh, and not 'dobbing in 'real' criminals' is hurting which factor of society exactly??:scratch::wait:

[peasea]

Too right - the 'punishments' should be swapped.

Just think how much safer the street would be...

You're not thinking; there's no money in that!

[scumdog]

You're not thinking; there's no money in that!

You're right!

The money needed for the ones in jail can be earned by them.

Then bugger all tickets would be needed and the Gov't would STILL get money from the 'public'.

[peasea]

You're right!

The money needed for the ones in jail can be earned by them.

Then bugger all tickets would be needed and the Gov't would STILL get money from the 'public'.

What about the 'sport' aspect?

[SixPackBack]

Goodness me, no. The total list of depravity (http://www.police.govt.nz/resources/index.html#annualreport) is 1474609. 760920 is only the figure for us really dangerous antisocial criminals.

Over a million traffic infringements issued in 2008 :shit:

And just for you Ixion, 311,364 speeding offences but only 47,038 failure to stop. As usual you are correct, speeding is 6 times more dangerous than running a red.

[Ixion]

Over a million traffic infringements issued in 2008 :shit:

And just for you Ixion, 311,364 speeding offences but only 47,038 failure to stop. As usual you are correct, speeding is 6 times more dangerous than running a red.



You have not included the speed camera ones.

[peasea]

Over a million traffic infringements issued in 2008 :shit:

And just for you Ixion, 311,364 speeding offences but only 47,038 failure to stop. As usual you are correct, speeding is 6 times more dangerous than running a red.


Especially if you're cruising at 111kph on the desert road on a fine Sunday arvo, eh?

[peasea]

You have not included the speed camera ones.

Which makes it even more absurd.

[SixPackBack]

You have not included the speed camera ones.

......Speed cameras number 436500 + 311364=747864 total speeding infringements issued in one year.
Adds a hell of a lot of weight to the arguments that:

The coppers primary role is to act as highwaymen removing money from innocent folk. Property protection is a by product [ever rang the cops after suffering a theft, property damage? "ring your insurance....the fookers will not bother even turning up to take witness statement, fingerprints].
Speeding is a guaranteed, dependable resource of money for the government. They plan on increasing the take on a yearly basis. Speeding is big business!
Members of the force MUST be collectively brain washed to accept explanations surrounding speeding. In fact many members of the force DO NOT believe the 'official' line.
In its simplest form; speeding is tax!

[Kickaha]

In its simplest form; speeding is tax!


Yeah it's an Idiot tax collected off idiots that are dumb enough to get caught:shifty:

[SixPackBack]

Yeah it's an Idiot tax collected off idiots that are dumb enough to get caught:shifty:

Really?.........over a million of your compatriots are dumb??.....or just unlucky??
Population density and radar detectors cannot and do not help everyone Kickaha.

[Swoop]

I had to have a quiet laugh thinking about the Hazzard County police force, while watching the movie "Hot Fuzz" last night.:shifty:

[MaxB]

I had to have a quiet laugh thinking about the Hazzard County police force, while watching the movie "Hot Fuzz" last night.:shifty:

"Its all for the common good, Nicolas"

[Swoop]

"Its all for the common good, Nicolas"
"Yerp!"

<tencarachters>

[SixPackBack]

From Hinny:

Little prick followed me south from around the tunnel - for ages.
Then he is along side or just in front - for ages. Then he takes off after the other guys who had a bit of a gap on me. No way to warn them but they were riding all safe and legal. He then pulls into the slow vehicle lane and waits until the Greville Rd. flyover before putting on his lights. I look in my mirrors and see lights on. Guy in front of me must have had a guilty conscious as he hits the picks. I nearly run up his arse as I'm looking behind me. So I'm not happy already and that made it worse. He didn't seem to want to follow my hand gestured instructions to feck off and leave me alone so I finally pull over.
Starts off wanting to know why I had taken so long to pull over.
"Well why the hell would I think you were wanting to pull me over? I wasn't doing anything wrong."
Then he reckons I had come tearing up behind him and only slowed down when I realised he was a cop. So of course I told him I thought he was full of shit. Takes my licence away to his car. Comes back and tells me I haven't got a WOF. So I point out the WOF on the bike. 'Well it's not on the system"
"Well that's not my fault" I reply.
"Well it's not my fault" he says.
The goes to write out a ticket and says I will have to take the test sheet in to ..... I Say "why don't you just look at it. You can see Where it was issued and the expiry date etc." as I had cleverly put it in the holder with all that info facing out.
"No I can't ", he says. Must be a bit shortsighted eh?
"Well look at this test sheet then", I say as I pull the sheet out of the glove box on my bike. I think he is unhappy to see that and also to see my radar detector and gps. I figure he can see I can prove I wasn't speeding so he has to drop his bullshit story.
"So why did you pull me over", I ask.
"Licence and Registration check " he replies.
"Oh for fucks sake", I grab my licence, jump on the bike and take off.

Cops stopping people on motorways for Reg and WOF checks. How ridiculous. Said he had just stopped another biker before me. Haszard County! He needs fat guts, sunglasses, jackboots and a gun on his hip to complete the stereotype. He definitely has the attitude already.

Fooken twats are at it again:2guns:

[peasea]

It's called a fishing expedition.

Nowt better to do.

[scumdog]

From Hinny:

Little prick followed me south from around the tunnel - for ages.
Then he is along side or just in front - for ages. Then he takes off after the other guys who had a bit of a gap on me. No way to warn them but they were riding all safe and legal. He then pulls into the slow vehicle lane and waits until the Greville Rd. flyover before putting on his lights. I look in my mirrors and see lights on. Guy in front of me must have had a guilty conscious as he hits the picks. I nearly run up his arse as I'm looking behind me. So I'm not happy already and that made it worse. He didn't seem to want to follow my hand gestured instructions to feck off and leave me alone so I finally pull over.
Starts off wanting to know why I had taken so long to pull over.
"Well why the hell would I think you were wanting to pull me over? I wasn't doing anything wrong."
Then he reckons I had come tearing up behind him and only slowed down when I realised he was a cop. So of course I told him I thought he was full of shit. Takes my licence away to his car. Comes back and tells me I haven't got a WOF. So I point out the WOF on the bike. 'Well it's not on the system"
"Well that's not my fault" I reply.
"Well it's not my fault" he says.
The goes to write out a ticket and says I will have to take the test sheet in to ..... I Say "why don't you just look at it. You can see Where it was issued and the expiry date etc." as I had cleverly put it in the holder with all that info facing out.
"No I can't ", he says. Must be a bit shortsighted eh?
"Well look at this test sheet then", I say as I pull the sheet out of the glove box on my bike. I think he is unhappy to see that and also to see my radar detector and gps. I figure he can see I can prove I wasn't speeding so he has to drop his bullshit story.
"So why did you pull me over", I ask.
"Licence and Registration check " he replies.
"Oh for fucks sake", I grab my licence, jump on the bike and take off.

Cops stopping people on motorways for Reg and WOF checks. How ridiculous. Said he had just stopped another biker before me. Haszard County! He needs fat guts, sunglasses, jackboots and a gun on his hip to complete the stereotype. He definitely has the attitude already.

Fooken twats are at it again:2guns:

Enjoy!:devil2::2thumbsup

[scumdog]

"Well why the hell would I think you were wanting to pull me over? I wasn't doing anything wrong."


Fooken twats are at it again:2guns:

Hahaha!

"I wasn't doing anything wrong so I didn't see why I had to stop" - how original!

Enjoy!:devil2::2thumbsup

[SixPackBack]

Alleged case of perjury by a copper, keep an eye on this one.
http://www.odt.co.nz/your-town/alexandra/67473/suppression-continued-central-perjury-case

[peasea]

Alleged case of perjury by a copper, keep an eye on this one.
http://www.odt.co.nz/your-town/alexandra/67473/suppression-continued-central-perjury-case

The article said the defendant's occupation was suppressed. You've got me curious.

[scumdog]

The article said the defendant's occupation was suppressed. You've got me curious.

You'll find out...:shifty:

[peasea]

You'll find out...:shifty:

Are you in trouble????????????
Bwahahahaha

[scumdog]

Are you in trouble????????????
Bwahahahaha

Just call me Mr Teflon....:shifty::innocent:

[Madness]

Just call me Mr Teflon....:shifty::innocent:

That sounds familiar. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gotti) Oh, he was convicted and imprisoned before dying of Cancer. I'd stick with Scummie.

Besides, it can't be you under suppression. You'd be shitting bricks if it was, surely.

[peasea]

Just call me Mr Teflon....:shifty::innocent:

If you were the REAL Mister Teflon you'd be Helen Clark's other half, wouldn't you?
(Ick.)

[peasea]

That sounds familiar. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gotti) Oh, he was convicted and imprisoned before dying of Cancer. I'd stick with Scummie.

Besides, it can't be you under suppression. You'd be shitting bricks if it was, surely.

How can you stick with him if he's Mister Teflon?
Get with the program, sheesh.

[Jantar]

Because of a suppression order we are not permitted to disclose what almost everyone in Central Otago already knows. But here in Alexandra the most common joke doing the rounds is:

Q: What do you call a cop in court?

A: The defendant.

What isn't suppressed is information already in the public arena prior to charges being laid. Already discussed at http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=28713

[SixPackBack]

Because of a suppression order we are not permitted to disclose what almost everyone in Central Otago already knows. But here in Alexandra the most common joke doing the rounds is:

Q: What do you call a cop in court?

A: The defendant.

What isn't suppressed is information already in the public arena prior to charges being laid. Already discussed at http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=28713

Original thread makes interesting reading. Lets hope the lying coont roasts......D block at Parry would be a fitting punishment.:done:

[peasea]

Original thread makes interesting reading. Lets hope the lying coont roasts......D block at Parry would be a fitting punishment.:done:



Fat chance, buddy!

He'll drag it through the courts, you and I will pay for it and whatever happens he'll get a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket. "I was mistaken, I misjudged, it was all a big mistake" etc ad infinitum. Judge will say "naughty boy, say three hail mary's and we'll see ya down the pub".

The youngster has gone throught hell, as has his family, it's no doubt cost them a fortune too and they'll get Jack Shit for their troubles.

I could be wrong in my prediction and I hope I am but this will be a space worth watching. (Not.)

Lying cops and cops up to no good generally seem to be gaining in numbers, or is it just that they get dumber by the year (with the annual intake of well-intentioned but utterly corruptable dweebs) and are getting found out more often coz they're just plain stupid. Maybe they've always been bent and we just didn't know it.

[Patrick]

I DO have a wee record....

Mine is about 22.7 feet, above the urinal, out the window and onto the crabby old teacher...

[Fatjim]

Mine is about 22.7 feet, above the urinal, out the window and onto the crabby old teacher...

I've heard some great police college stories as well.

[Madness]

<tenchars>
Sub judice until November, Hazzard County Court.

[SixPackBack]

<TENCHARS>
Sub judice until November, Hazzard County Court.

Tell us more?

[Patrick]

<tenchars>
Sub judice until November, Hazzard County Court.

So they don't falsify documents, is what you're saying...? More info needed.....

[mnkyboy]

Decided to drive through hazzard county today,

(on the hunt for daisy duke)

From Titirangi -> Scenic drive -> SH16 -> Mangawhai I passed 9 police cars - 4 unmarked. Didn't include getting to Titirangi or back to Auckland

I was a good boy and not doing anything too silly so no cause to be 'taxed' but it made me wonder how many burglars, kiddy fiddlers etc..... might have been investigated and 'real' convictions secured.

Goes to show IMO that the priority from on high is to police the road not society.

I may be mistaken and that there were abundant coppers today 'working on the real crimes'...........but being the cynic that I am I DOUBT IT

[Richard Mc F]

They were all over the motorways and north shore, got depressed went home and drank instead

[scumdog]

Decided to drive through hazzard county today,

(on the hunt for daisy duke)

From Titirangi -> Scenic drive -> SH16 -> Mangawhai I passed 9 police cars - 4 unmarked. Didn't include getting to Titirangi or back to Auckland

I was a good boy and not doing anything too silly so no cause to be 'taxed' but it made me wonder how many burglars, kiddy fiddlers etc..... might have been investigated and 'real' convictions secured.

Goes to show IMO that the priority from on high is to police the road not society.

I may be mistaken and that there were abundant coppers today 'working on the real crimes'...........but being the cynic that I am I DOUBT IT

If by a miracle cops were not allowed to 'collect taxes' then those particular jobs wouldn't exist - there wouldn't be 'zillions of extra cops' solving crimes as some would dream..the pollies woudn't provide the funding.

[Patrick]

If by a miracle cops were not allowed to 'collect taxes' then those particular jobs wouldn't exist - there wouldn't be 'zillions of extra cops' solving crimes as some would dream..the pollies woudn't provide the funding.

you forgot to mention the obvious..... ALL 9 cars (that he saw) were out there ALL snaking for revenue.... :lol:

Considering traffic only make up about 9% of the Police fleet.....

[NDORFN]

you forgot to mention the obvious..... ALL 9 cars (that he saw) were out there ALL snaking for revenue.... :lol:

Considering traffic only make up about 9% of the Police fleet.....

9%? Wow, that's an interesting statistic. Do you happen to know what percentage of all crimes are commited on the road?

[Patrick]

Most of em. Driving to the scene and driving from the scene, driving to the receiver or driving to make the drug delivery... just to name a few......

9% was being generous. It's only about 7.5% here in the Naki.

[NDORFN]

Most of em. Driving to the scene and driving from the scene, driving to the receiver or driving to make the drug delivery... just to name a few......

9% was being generous. It's only about 7.5% here in the Naki.

What? That came across like a cop out (no pun intended). Surely you'd know what percentage of all crime in NZ DIRECTLY involves breach of traffic laws?

[pete376403]

there are crimes and there are "crimes". Doing a few ks over the arbitary speed limit is not in the same league as robbery, assault or worse, yet it seems to get an undue degree of priority. (Well aware there are real serious road events, but I'm referring to minor speeding infringements)
Could it be because road policing is money in the bank, but real crime investigation costs, and the fines come nowhere near meeting the costs.

[peasea]

there are crimes and there are "crimes". Doing a few ks over the arbitary speed limit is not in the same league as robbery, assault or worse, yet it seems to get an undue degree of priority. (Well aware there are real serious road events, but I'm referring to minor speeding infringements)
Could it be because road policing is money in the bank, but real crime investigation costs, and the fines come nowhere near meeting the costs.

Of course.

Motorists are 'easy meat', real crims take a bit more than a radar or laser to nab. It is common knowledge that the open road speed limit is set too low so as to make a cash cow of people who 'cruise' at a comfortable speed for their modern machine, mostly in the 110-120 bracket.

Ka-fuckin-ching! Arkwright couldn't have done it better. (Ca-ca-ca-caaaake?)

What irks me the most is; those who enforce laws that they know are stupid. I am all for nabbing robbers/rapists/bashers and loonies doing 200kph in supermarket carparks but seriously; 100kph on the open road is a joke. A lobby for upping it needs to get rolling (sic) with compulsory Defensive Driving/ Improved Skills courses for all new drivers or drivers convicted of fuckwittery.

Gawd, too simple, sorry. As you were.

[mnkyboy]

you forgot to mention the obvious..... ALL 9 cars (that he saw) were out there ALL snaking for revenue.... :lol:

Considering traffic only make up about 9% of the Police fleet.....

They all had their radars on.

[Morcs]

100kph on the open road is a joke. A lobby for upping it needs to get rolling .

They were actually talking about reducing it though?

100kph limit down country is not too bad, as theres usually some corners and or scenery..

Motorways however should be lifted. Going from say, orewa to huntly (full stretch of motorway) is so mundane at 100kph, that pure boredom is enough to cause accidents...

[Patrick]

What? That came across like a cop out (no pun intended). Surely you'd know what percentage of all crime in NZ DIRECTLY involves breach of traffic laws?

Why would I know?

I know traffic "crime" doesn't exist. Most burglars are disqualified... around these parts anyhow..... :whistle:


compulsory Defensive Driving/ Improved Skills courses for all new drivers or drivers convicted of fuckwittery.

Gawd, too simple, sorry. As you were.

Yep - too simple. Spot on, but too simple. Needs to be put through the complicator more.........


They all had their radars on.

Didn't Peasea tell them he left town????????

[SPman]

Why would I know?

I know traffic "crime" doesn't exist. Most burglars are disqualified... around these parts anyhow..... :whistle:

Assuming they had a licence in the first place........around your patch anyhow.........

(I have 2 scrote nephews thereabouts who you've probably come across.....)

[peasea]

(I have 2 scrote nephews thereabouts who you've probably come across.....)

Eww! Bad picture............

[SixPackBack]

Dodgy Hazzard copper lying (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=110623) to local resident......

[peasea]

Dodgy Hazzard copper lying (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=110623) to local resident......


Hey man, you'd love this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2NhQmZ3S6E&feature=related

[jimmy 2006]

if we are getting into youtube clips. he would probably like this one more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLNeYGcR9O4

[SixPackBack]

if we are getting into youtube clips. he would probably like this one more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLNeYGcR9O4

Are you coming onto me special jimmy?

[Zuki lover]

That's a much better Avatar SPB :)

[SixPackBack]

More from the dodgy hazzard coppers file.....
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=113376

[peasea]

More from the dodgy hazzard coppers file.....
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=113376

As Jim Kerr sang in the Simple Minds song 'Belfast Child'...............


"Life goes on........."

[scumdog]

there are crimes and there are "crimes". Doing a few ks over the arbitary speed limit is not in the same league as robbery, assault or worse, yet it seems to get an undue degree of priority. (Well aware there are real serious road events, but I'm referring to minor speeding infringements)
Could it be because road policing is money in the bank, but real crime investigation costs, and the fines come nowhere near meeting the costs.

If this forum was around when Traffic Officers were Traffic Cops and Police were just Cops I wonder how this 'conversation' would go...:whistle:

[red mermaid]

If this forum was around when Traffic Officers were Traffic Cops and Police were just Cops I wonder how this 'conversation' would go...:whistle:

What do you mean by that, cause being of an age I can remember back then.

[Patrick]

If this forum was around when Traffic Officers were Traffic Cops and Police were just Cops I wonder how this 'conversation' would go...:whistle:

But it aint...

So stop speeding, register your vehicles, get your licenses, stop drinking and driving, stop driving like dicks, stop for reds, get that WOF, fix those blown headlights (plural - at night....ffs!!!!) blah blah blah.... so I can catch real crims!!!!!!!!!!!:bash:

[Kiwi Graham]

My Mrs gets to work with several cops in her job and has been told Hazard County is the area they send 'green' traffic cops to learn their trade. Might be the reason for some ever zealous nick picking eh!

[red mermaid]

That would be too easy.

They would rather get caught so they can moan day and night.

[SixPackBack]

Murdering copper goes on trial....

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10612565

A police officer allegedly beat up a man in the back of a patrol car who was subsequently fatally injured in a street accident, a court heard today.
When the frightened man fled, he was struck and killed by a street sweeper, according to the Crown prosecutor.
George Tipene Harris died on the way to hospital on October 3, 2004 after being hit by the truck. The man he was running from, Clinton Lyall Hill, 34, today went on trial charged with his manslaughter.
The Crown says Hill, who can be named after a suppression order lapsed this morning, is responsible for Mr Harris' death because he was so frightened of him he ran into the path of the truck while he was trying to escape.
He is also charged with assault and attempting to pervert the course of justice. He denies all the charges.

In his opening address at the High Court at Auckland today, Crown prosecutor Stuart Grieve said Mr Harris had been arrested by Hill after an altercation outside a south Auckland night club and was being taken to a police station.
Both men had been drinking and Mr Harris had been denied entry to the night club. Hill was talking on his cell phone when an altercation between them started in which Hill's jacket was torn. He arrested Harris, intending to take him to the Wiri Rd police station but instead flagged down a patrol car.

The two officers in the car agreed to take them to the police station and it was on the way there the Crown alleges Hill assaulted Mr Harris. Mr Grieve said Hill told the constables to drive to a car park around the back of a bank.
One of the officers left the car but the other stayed in the front seat. Mr Grieve said it was the Crown case that Hill assaulted Mr Harris in the back seat and outside alongside the patrol car.
Mr Grieve said at some point Mr Harris managed to get away from Hill which he was "fully entitled to do" because although he was lawfully arrested he was being "unlawfully assaulted".
"The accused had no right or justification for assaulting him in the back of the car or alongside it."
The officers drove around searching for him, eventually seeing him on nearby Ryan Place. Hill told him to get back in the car but Mr Harris refused.
"No doubt fearing further assaults he ran off again," Mr Grieve said.
Mr Harris ran off and was then hit by the street sweeper.
In the investigation that followed, Hill made no reference to the alleged assaults as he attempted to "cover up" what happened, the court heard.
Hill's lawyer, John Haigh QC, said Mr Harris' death was an ""absolute tragedy" but his client was not criminally responsible for it.
He said no assault took place and that Mr Harris was fleeing lawful police custody when he died.
The trial has been set down for two weeks.

[red mermaid]

Murdering copper goes on trial....

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10612565

A police officer allegedly beat up a man in the back of a patrol car who was subsequently fatally injured in a street accident, a court heard today.
When the frightened man fled, he was struck and killed by a street sweeper, according to the Crown prosecutor.
George Tipene Harris died on the way to hospital on October 3, 2004 after being hit by the truck. The man he was running from, Clinton Lyall Hill, 34, today went on trial charged with his manslaughter.
.

I bit off topic, or are you trying to say something?

[Patrick]

Manslaughteringcopper goes on trial....


There ya go... fixed it.

I heard the street sweeper was speeding.....

[westie]

There ya go... fixed it.

I heard the street sweeper was speeding.....

Speed kils!

Another reason to slow down!
:dodge:

[SixPackBack]

There ya go... fixed it.

I heard the street sweeper was speeding.....

Incredible, but not surprising...............Trivialising and making excuses for the prick!

You should be ashamed Patrick.

[scumdog]

Incredible, but not surprising...............Trivialising and making excuses for the prick!

You should be ashamed Patrick.

Yeahh, the prick shouldn't have run from the dude..

[red mermaid]

And it makes no difference that the police system caught this guy out, who could very likely have been dobbed in by other police officers.

[Patrick]

Incredible, but not surprising...............Trivialising and making excuses for the prick!

You should be ashamed Patrick.

Nah. It's called black humour.... if one can still call it that.....

Other than thepoint the Defendant claimed, "escaping custody..."

But I guess because he is a cop, he must be guilty before the trial then......


And it makes no difference that the police system caught this guy out, who could very likely have been dobbed in by other police officers.

Exactly.

But that can't be true... The system works???? FFS..... what next....

[Patrick]

The Jury is in. Not Guilty of Manslaughter..... undecided on the other charges, so a retrial on the other charges is likely.

How can that be, SPB....?

He was guilty before his trial..... apparently.

So..... what happened....?
:Pokey:

[peasea]

Incredible, but not surprising...............Trivialising and making excuses for the prick!

You should be ashamed Patrick.

Fat chance..........

[Mom]

I saw something I have never, ever seen before today, in Warkworth, or anywhere else come to that. No public reason for it mind, and we rarely see any 2 wheeled plod in town.


10, I counted them, bike cops in convoy, in town, heading out of Warkworth, slowly. Late morning, actually thinking, it was probably just after midday. Must have been something significant for them. I thought about it.

[Patrick]

Fat chance..........

He was innocent. So was BAIN...

[SixPackBack]

The Jury is in. Not Guilty of Manslaughter..... undecided on the other charges, so a retrial on the other charges is likely.

How can that be, SPB....?

He was guilty before his trial..... apparently.

So..... what happened....?
:Pokey:



What happened??.... Justice is a by product of westminster style law systems, Rickard's proved that beyond doubt; furthermore every minor traffic charge that is undefended because it costs more for defence than it does for the charge rams the fact home. Our 'justice' system is about control and lining pockets, appeasing public opinion is a by product. The copper [in this case] is still an arse hole regardless of court [or jury] guilt.

[scumdog]

Fat chance..........

SPB probably thought there was...

[scumdog]

What happened??.... Justice is a by product of westminster style law systems, Rickard's proved that beyond doubt; furthermore every minor traffic charge that is undefended because it costs more for defence than it does for the charge rams the fact home. Our 'justice' system is about control and lining pockets, appeasing public opinion is a by product. The copper [in this case] is still an arse hole regardless of court [or jury] guilt.

Of course none of the above will ever benefit any members of the public eh..:devil2:

[SixPackBack]

Of course none of the above will ever benefit any members of the public eh..:devil2:

As long as it suits the judiciary.

[peasea]

What happened??.... Justice is a by product of westminster style law systems, Rickard's proved that beyond doubt; furthermore every minor traffic charge that is undefended because it costs more for defence than it does for the charge rams the fact home. Our 'justice' system is about control and lining pockets, appeasing public opinion is a by product. The copper [in this case] is still an arse hole regardless of court [or jury] guilt.

Have to agree with your last line there and what of his workmates who knew what he'd done? Only slightly higher IMHO.

[SixPackBack]

Just caught up with the case on teh tellie......
So a dead shit who steals a phone gets beaten up by a copper, escapes and runs into a street sweeper [and dies later]. The case goes to court, two coppers commit perjury trying to stick up for their dodgy mate. After trial the jury is unable to gain a majority agreeance on guilt/innocence.

What a fucken farce, coppers, crim and jury are all guilty of gross stupidity.......you really have to worry about the justice system when hearing about cases like this.

[scumdog]

So anybody that runs from a cop (or from anybody else for that matter) and gets killed through their own stupid actions is automaticly a manslaughter victim?

Well who'd a thunk it!:scratch:

Anyway, off on a ride, got better stuff to do than fight trolls today....

[Patrick]

Just caught up with the case on teh tellie......
So a dead shit who steals a phone (alledgedly) gets beaten up by a copper (allegedly), escapes (Allegedly) and runs into a street sweeper [and dies later].

The case goes to court, two coppers commit perjury trying to stick up for their dodgy mate. Caught out by non dodgy cops...

After trial the jury is unable to gain a majority agreeance on guilt/innocence.

What a fucken farce, coppers, crim and jury are all guilty of gross stupidity.......you really have to worry about the justice system when hearing about cases like this.

A lot of guilt there...... even without a trial.

Fixed it up for ya......

[Patrick]

furthermore every minor traffic charge that is undefended because it costs more for defence than it does for the charge rams the fact home.

So you're advocating a ACC original sized raise in the fines then?


Of course none of the above will ever benefit any members of the public eh..:devil2:

Must be ONLY for members of the public.... Being a cop is not being a member of the public, apparently.


As long as it suits the judiciary.

Coz the jury has so much to gain from it...... ????????


Have to agree with your last line there and what of his workmates who knew what he'd done? Only slightly higher IMHO.

A lower back? A builders butt crack?

[atothek]

[FONT=Comic Sans MS]What a fucken farce, coppers, crim and jury are all guilty of gross stupidity.......you really have to worry about the justice system when hearing about cases like this.

last time i checked the crimes act made no reference to stupidity. if it did most of the members of this forum would have a fucken long rap sheet.

[SixPackBack]

A lot of guilt there...... even without a trial.

Fixed it up for ya......

Fair enough!


So you're advocating a ACC original sized raise in the fines then?

A system where true justice is the outcome would be desirable, rather than a decision made on how much defending was likely to cost vs how much is the fine.




Must be ONLY for members of the public.... Being a cop is not being a member of the public, apparently.



Coz the jury has so much to gain from it...... ????????

The jury are not really qualified to comment or make judgement on matters they often do not understand; additionally they are easily swayed.



A lower back? A builders butt crack?


last time i checked the crimes act made no reference to stupidity. if it did most of the members of this forum would have a fucken long rap sheet.

If you find the members of KB stupid, let me be the first to suggest you leave.

[SixPackBack]

The pom's suffer the same fate as Hazzard County residents. Word from the old country is licence points loss is highly dependant on where you live.


Speeding prosecutions are ‘postcode lottery’

By Steve Farrell -
General news
16 December 2009 16:40


Speeding prosecutions are dished out in a postcode lottery with the chances of getting one varying widely from one region to another, according to a report.
One in eight motorists in North Wales received points on their licence for speeding in 2007 compared to one in 100 in Durham.
For all traffic offences, Northamptonshire led the way in England and Wales with on in six motorists getting points.
Durham was again bottom of the table with a rate of one in 50.
In Scotland, Dumfries and Galloway beat even North Wales, with one in five getting points.
The rate of drivers getting points for using mobile phones also varied, from 1% in Merseyside to one in 500 in Leicestershire.
A spokeswoman for the magazine Auto Express, which obtained the figures, said: “The risk to your licence simple depends on where you live.”

[Dave Lobster]

That isn't the whole story. Durham doesn't actively target motorists for their money.
They also don't have a rising road toll. Coincidence?

[Hinny]

That isn't the whole story. Durham doesn't actively target motorists for their money.
They also don't have a rising road toll. Coincidence?

Totally irrelevant in the eyes of those in charge here.

There are none so blind as those that will not see.

Intransigent belligerence is difficult to overcome! Logic and rationale have no effect.

[avgas]

If I was in-charge of the cops and you did a running in a sub, I would shoot your tyres out.
I'm a crappy shot

[SixPackBack]

Merry Xmas to all the Hazzard County Coppers.

[Hinny]

Merry Xmas to all the Hazzard County Coppers.

Ho Ho Fucking Ho.

[Pixie]

I saw something I have never, ever seen before today, in Warkworth, or anywhere else come to that. No public reason for it mind, and we rarely see any 2 wheeled plod in town.


10, I counted them, bike cops in convoy, in town, heading out of Warkworth, slowly. Late morning, actually thinking, it was probably just after midday. Must have been something significant for them. I thought about it.

This is the regular 'Bike cop evaluation ride'.They travel along Old North,Peak,SH16,Westcoast roads,with are senior cop observing them for bad habits (riding).