3 months in, first ticket :brick:

[Coyote]

Got my first ticket today. 63k in a 50 zone. I was judging my speed by the sound of the bike, thought I was in 4th but I was in 5th so I was going a bit faster than I thought :pinch:

Short story shorter, got a ticket for 80 bucks

Got a question though, my friend, Nick (formaly known as Cryhavoc) said that it's possible to get the ticket 'discredited' because the ticket says 'Vehicle Type: Car'. Reckon I could get away with that? Even if I was able to, how do I go about 'discrediting' it anyway?

[riffer]

Got a question though, my friend, Nick (formaly known as Cryhavoc) said that it's possible to get the ticket 'discredited' because the ticket says 'Vehicle Type: Car'. Reckon I could get away with that? Even if I was able to, how do I go about 'discrediting' it anyway?

Hey dude. You you could possibly get away with it. You were not in a car.

Wkid_one lives just down the road from you. Ask him. He's great at writing tickets for this sort of thing (search the forums for his successful defence against a 120+km/hr ticket on a mountain bike).

[Krusti]

See that little round thing with numbers on it....You are sposed to look at it..:whistle:

[Coyote]

See that little round thing with numbers on it....You are sposed to look at it..:whistle:
What the hell are you taking about :confused:

Are you on about the tacho?

[Coyote]

Hey dude. You you could possibly get away with it. You were not in a car.

Wkid_one lives just down the road from you. Ask him. He's great at writing tickets for this sort of thing (search the forums for his successful defence against a 120+km/hr ticket on a mountain bike).
I'm trying to search the forums for it, but all I come up with is that stupid 'instafinder' site :angry2:

[spudchucka]

Got my first ticket today. 63k in a 50 zone. I was judging my speed by the sound of the bike, thought I was in 4th but I was in 5th so I was going a bit faster than I thought :pinch:

Short story shorter, got a ticket for 80 bucks

Got a question though, my friend, Nick (formaly known as Cryhavoc) said that it's possible to get the ticket 'discredited' because the ticket says 'Vehicle Type: Car'. Reckon I could get away with that? Even if I was able to, how do I go about 'discrediting' it anyway?
Probably worth a go, you've got nothing to lose by trying.

[crashe]

What the hell are you taking about :confused:

Krusti is talking about your SPEEDO... that tells you what speed you are doing.....lol

Yeah I would try writing in as well.... after all a car is not a motorbike...
:ride:

[TygerTung]

How could you go 120+ on a mountain bike?!

It's a mission to get to much over 60kmh on a road push bike going down hill!!!!

[StoneChucker]

How could you go 120+ on a mountain bike?!

It's a mission to get to much over 60kmh on a road push bike going down hill!!!!
Halfway to terminal velocity? He must have overshot a corner, and be in freefall :shifty:

[Wolf]

it's possible to get the ticket 'discredited' because the ticket says 'Vehicle Type: Car'. Reckon I could get away with that? Even if I was able to, how do I go about 'discrediting' it anyway?
I think you've also got a chance of suing the cop for being down-right fucking insulting! Isn't calling a bike a "car" defamation or something?

[Drunken Monkey]

How could you go 120+ on a mountain bike?!

It's a mission to get to much over 60kmh on a road push bike going down hill!!!!

If I recall the thread correctly, Wkid was riding his motorcycle (R1?), but the officer recorded the vehicle detail as 'bicycle'.

[Firefight]

If I recall the thread correctly, Wkid was riding his motorcycle (R1?), but the officer recorded the vehicle detail as 'bicycle'.


not sure which bike he had at the time, but what a bloody good letter it was,maybe one of the geeks can dig it out for all to see again.

F/F

[sAsLEX]

not sure which bike he had at the time, but what a bloody good letter it was,maybe one of the geeks can dig it out for all to see again.

F/F

found thread but not letter http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=419&page=1&pp=15&highlight=letter

doing so much work at uni at the mo.............not!

[Coyote]

Ok, how do I go about writing this letter? Does the letter have to be very long and formal?

[sAsLEX]

Ok, how do I go about writing this letter? Does the letter have to be very long and formal?


have a look on this thread for a very funny letter that got someone off due to mistakes on the ticket link thing (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=2552&highlight=letter)

[riffer]

have a look on this thread for a very funny letter that got someone off due to mistakes on the ticket link thing (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=2552&highlight=letter)

Here's the link (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=419) to wkid_one's post about getting a ticket for 129km/hr on his mountainbike.

Unfortunately the letter's no longer there - hey Dan - post it again!!!

[Biff]

Doh!!

As I was told after my first ticket, "you're not a proper Kiwi until you have at least one ticket". Then again I'm a bloody foreigner.

A polite, cogent letter is well worth a try.

[sAsLEX]

found thread but not letter http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=419&page=1&pp=15&highlight=letter

doing so much work at uni at the mo.............not!



Here's the link to wkid_one's post about getting a ticket for 129km/hr on his mountainbike.

Unfortunately the letter's no longer there - hey Dan - post it again!!!

already posted that!

[riffer]

Give me a break Alex. I'm still in mourning. :crybaby:

[Aitch]

The coop will ask for a "departure" (or something like that) and the ticket will stand. I'd suggest though that rather than consult us bush lawyers, you give your own lawyer a call, he shouldn't charge you for a quick question

[XP@]

Krusti is talking about your SPEEDO... that tells you what speed you are doing.....lol

Yeah I would try writing in as well.... after all a car is not a motorbike...
:ride:

lookin at my speedo...
50, 54, 53, 55, 58, 61 ... ooops too fast.. 55, 53, 0 was that a corner?

na, bugger that for a lark!

Can't promise anything but I have used similar before...

"Please can you waive the ticket number ... for the reasons outlined below.

I had checked my speedo 8-9 seconds ago and was within tolerence. At the time my speed was recorded I was scanning the road, this is a task that I spend most of the time doing on the road. Within the next few seconds, and when safe to do so, I was due to do a speed check. If at this point my speed had been in excess of the tolerated limits I would have reduced my speed accordingly.

During this time I did see the officers vehicle and decided that the risk of checking my speed at that time would not be wise and could have been potentially dangerous (car behind, unchecked area of road or surrounding area...). A motorcycle is not like a car and requires skilfull control to ride and stop. So reducing or even checking speed because a police car is ahead, they might be checking speed and I might be going a little bit fast is not good riding, it is asking for an accident.

It seems as though the officer concerned was not paying too much attention to his duties as he failed to notice my vehicle was a motorbike and not a car. If an officer is given the job of booking vihicles for exceeding the speed limit then as a pre-requisite for the job then they should be able to tell the difference between 2 and 4 wheeled forms of transport.

In this case I will be contesting the ticket in court. So if you choose not to waive this ticket then please can you forward documentary proof that the speed equipment was properly calibrated for use at the time of the alleged offence."

[Sniper]

Good luck mate, oh yea, if you dont like the speedo, the rev counter works just as well too.

[Coyote]

Not sure if I'm gonna bother. I'm still unsure on what the hell to do, and I'm probebly going to step in an even bigger puddle of shit than the one I'm already lying in

[Sniper]

Try just giving them a polite letter. They should dismiss it on incorrect information grounds?

Spud?

[Coyote]

How do I go about proving I was driving a motorcycle at the time? I'll probebly end up being told that I could've been driving a car for all they know, and it's not reasonable grounds to discredit the ticket.

I'll write some form of letter, may post it up on here first before I send it to god knows where

[Jantar]

How do I go about proving I was driving a motorcycle at the time? I'll probebly end up being told that I could've been driving a car for all they know, and it's not reasonable grounds to discredit the ticket.

I'll write some form of letter, may post it up on here first before I send it to god knows where

The registration sticker will prove that it was a bike and not a car.

[flyin]

fully write a letter and ask for it to be quashed! be reasonable and polite, You were not driving a car and all fields on the ticket need to be filled, and correctly. the person who reads your letter will hopefully be higher ranked than the pleb who called your ride a car and will go and give him a bollocking.......

[XP@]

I think sometimes they do it on purpose, filling in the wrong fields...
Maybee to give those with half a brain a chance to get out of it...
would be interesting to see how many tickets are waived due to wrong info on the ticket.

any input on the cops on this one... or what happens if you muck up too many tickets?

[spudchucka]

Try just giving them a polite letter. They should dismiss it on incorrect information grounds?

Spud?
Its worth a go. Write a letter to the Infringment Bureau highlighting the obvious error on the ticket. And yes, be polite, nobody likes a smart arse!

Good luck.

[spudchucka]

I think sometimes they do it on purpose, filling in the wrong fields...
Maybee to give those with half a brain a chance to get out of it...
would be interesting to see how many tickets are waived due to wrong info on the ticket.

any input on the cops on this one... or what happens if you muck up too many tickets?
No comment!

[XP@]

No comment!
Interesting

[Coyote]

Soon I'll get my act together and actually write this formal letter. Got all day tomorrow for it

[spudchucka]

Interesting
Only if you want it to be!

[Biff]

Only if you want it to be!

Seriously Spud, do you, sorry, let me re-phrase that, would you get an arse kicking if you balls up when writing a ticket?

[scumdog]

"Somebody" gets grumpy and sends us a letter telling us to take more care in future 'cos otherwise we're just wasting police time... or sommat to that effect so I believe :whistle:

[vifferman]

3 months in, first ticket.Got my first ticket today. 63k in a 50 zone.

Yeah, that'd be about right. Got my first ticket about 3 munce after getting my bike. Was doing about 71 in a 50 (actually 41mph in a 30). Wrote a nice, grovelly letter, admitted I was a gnarsty murdering criminal, promised never to do it again, and got fined $10 and ordered to do a Defensive Driving course.:niceone:

Few munce laters, got microwaved at 38 in a 30 (only barely defrosted). Instant $16 fine, which was great, because a few seconds before that, the mighty CB175 had been travelling at an indicated 75 or thereabouts, and the cook operating the microraver knew it too, but had it on 'AutoDefrost' instead of 'BurnToACrisp'.

Write yourself a nice story, especially pointing out that the ticket is filled out incorrectly. If you or someone you know belongs to AA, get {whoever is a member} to phone up their Legal and Technical Service and ask for some (free) advice.

[Lou Girardin]

"Somebody" gets grumpy and sends us a letter telling us to take more care in future 'cos otherwise we're just wasting police time... or sommat to that effect so I believe :whistle:

Think they'd charge you? :yes:

You'd let the matter go to a court hearing and make sure the information is correct. Correct?
Or are the courts more hard-arsed about that sort of thing now?