Can Nicky Hayden win another GP?

[SlideMoto]

I was going to ask if nicky can win another championship or not but reckon that might be a bit much to ask given current competition levels.

He is getting quicker and closer to the pointy end with each race though and I wonder if he can make it back on the podium or even win a race.

[Duke girl]

I myself dont think he will on a Ducati cos to me he doesn't look all that comfortable on it even thou he did finish 5th in the last round of the Moto GP.
It was great to see him smiling in his garage after the race. With only 16 bikes starting the race and 12 finishing it, Is Moto GP in trouble with getting Riders and Teams competing?.

[R6_kid]

Don't ask me why, but something tells me he should be riding the Suzuki. I don't know much of his skills as a bike developer (like Rossi) but it does seem that he has been riding a bike design that has been catered to the needs of Stoner, and he is slowly getting around to riding it fast enough to be top 5.

Have any other riders moved from the Honda on to another manufacturer and gone faster?

I'd say he still has it, but not on the Ducati, and he'd just look stupid going back to Honda... though in saying that if he is past it there is no point flogging a dead dog.

[Shaun S]

One singular race? Yes, why not, he is a good rider and anything can happen - however a championship? No, not in my opinion.

[kittytamer]

Have any other riders moved from the Honda on to another manufacturer and gone faster?

Erm.... Rossi

[Ivan]

He Definatly has got it.

He is actually doing better than most do when going to the Ducati if you look at Melandri etc, All are great riders, Nicky for sure has another title in him to Fiat Yamaha I reckon hed do well as it seems his best times on the Honda was around the era of the Rossized Honda If he could get a ridethere I reckon hed be onto a world title

[R6_kid]

Erm.... Rossi

Heh, sorry, I meant excluding Rossi! But that's sort of what I'm getting at. Rossi was given a bike and was able to develop it, Jorge is now one essentially the same machine, and it's doing it's job well. Even the Tech3 Yam's are doing fairly well for a satellite team.

[CHOPPA]

When they change back to 990s and get rid of traction control he will be away!

[JayRacer37]

I don't think so.

Nicky has won three races total in his MotoGP career - 2 on a track that he knows intimatly when the other riders were having there first sight, and one in a race when the other top riders that season (Rossi, Capirossi, Melandri to a point) were injured (the race after the massive 2006 Catalunya pileup, after a heavy crash for Rossi in practice) and after Colin Edwards crashed exiting the very last corner handing him the win.

It's no longer the bikes excuse (Honda, Duc, anything I reckon) its time Nicky realised he would make a great Superbike rider and probably have more fun.

Also - if he was ever going to win again it would be at Laguna and he could 'only' manage 5th behind a heavily injured dude (Lorenzo) and a 'sick' dude (Moaner/Stoner). Don't get me wrong, you'd have to be able to ride fantastically to race near the top 5 in MotoGP - but that'll be the best he gets for a while I reckon. Go have a play on SBK :)

[Sidewinder]

ducatis are gay and thats why stoner bonds with it well because hes a fag

[cowpoos]

I was going to ask if nicky can win another championship or not but reckon that might be a bit much to ask given current competition levels.

He is getting quicker and closer to the pointy end with each race though and I wonder if he can make it back on the podium or even win a race.

Piss off...he was fucking lucky getting a title...I think he only won 3 GPs!!
there are much more talented riders in that field that him...a lucky turn of events saw him get a championship...was also helpful Mat Mladin had cronic fatigue syndrome the year he won the AMA title...

[xxcbr69xx]

He'd be lucky to get a podium let alone another GP win and certainly not on that Ducati.

[slowpoke]

If it rains anything is possible.........

[Sidewinder]

If it rains anything is possible.........

no because im still gona own them all anyway

[brads]

Piss off...he was fucking lucky getting a title...I think he only won 3 GPs!!
there are much more talented riders in that field that him...a lucky turn of events saw him get a championship...was also helpful Mat Mladin had cronic fatigue syndrome the year he won the AMA title...

You may get lucky and win a GP,but you dont win a championship by luck,he deserved that title more than anyone,....wait for it......."but rossi fell off at the last round":crybaby:,dont forget the only reason it went to the last round was thanks to Mr Pedrosa taking him out at Estoril,as for mladin,nothing was going stop Nicky and that factory Vtwin that year pal.

[AllanB]

Like to see Rossi on a Ducati - keeping it in the family and all that.

[KS34]

I don't think so.

its time Nicky realised he would make a great Superbike rider and probably have more fun.

:)


I think you are bang on the money here! As long as Spies goes to MotoGp, maybe they could swap.

[JayRacer37]

I think you are bang on the money here! As long as Spies goes to MotoGp, maybe they could swap.

I think Yamaha will be looking very hard at swapping Spies and Toseland around next year, particularly given as of next year they can't bring a MotoGP rookie into their factory teams - The argument remains to be had to see if Spies' races last year remove his 'rookie' status tho.

[Deano]

So this begs the question........how would Stoner go on the Yamaha or Honda then..........?

[Marknz]

...was also helpful Mat Mladin had cronic fatigue syndrome the year he won the AMA title...

that's probably what Stoner has now, that or glandular fever

[cowpoos]

So this begs the question........how would Stoner go on the Yamaha or Honda then..........?
well..honda and michelin didn't work so well...but he was FAST at times...

I remember an interview where Stoner stated that he had little confidence in the michelin front tyre...

but back to your question...I reckon he'd do better than he currently is!!

[vifferman]

... after Colin Edwards crashed exiting the very last corner handing him the win.
Say what?!?
The reason Edwards crashed was Haystack ran him off the track! The only MotoGP race Edwards has looked like winning (and really deserved to), and Hayden spoils it for him. Edwards was so amused when he came third last season after Hayden's bike conked out in the exact same spot: "What can I say? Payback's a bitch... Karma .... What goes around, comes around..."

Back to Hayden: he looks like he's finally coming to grips with the Ducati. No-one else apart from Stoner has been able to, so is it that it's been tailored to Stoner, and others don't fit it? Or that it's an unridable beast, and Stoner's adapted himself to it? I know Hayden said it was a real beast when he test-rode it at the end of the last season, and that he had a lot of work to do. If he continues to improve each race as he's doing, he might get a podium, but I don't think he's going to find it at all easy to beat Rossi, Stoner, Lorenzo or Dovizioso.

I'd really like to see Edwards on the podium. I doubt he has more than maybe one more season left in him.

[JayRacer37]

Say what?!?
The reason Edwards crashed was Haystack ran him off the track!

Well yes...was a shame, everyone got a bit heated and it was dissapointing that denyed Edwards his first win. But Edwards got carried away trying to get to the line and fatted it up on the grass, causing him to crash...the worst part was he didn't need to as Hayseed had already run off in the chicane and lost even more time.

[KS34]

I think Yamaha will be looking very hard at swapping Spies and Toseland around next year, particularly given as of next year they can't bring a MotoGP rookie into their factory teams - The argument remains to be had to see if Spies' races last year remove his 'rookie' status tho.

That "rookie rule" is an interesting one. What is the reason behind that? And will they move Colin Edwards out. I love the guys attitude but will he ever win a GP?

[JayRacer37]

That "rookie rule" is an interesting one. What is the reason behind that? And will they move Colin Edwards out. I love the guys attitude but will he ever win a GP?

I think they are aiming to see the non-factory teams get the best bikes to make the racing better. Basically it'll mean that the factory team should have factory bikes, but also the 'tier-2' teams will get a facotry bike IF the manufacturer wants (for eg, Simoncelli/Bautista) to step up onto a bike capable of winning.

I think what will end up happening though is facory teams having a 'coustomer' bike IE, Repsol Honda having a factory bike for Pedrosa and a coustomer bike for Dovizioso, and a factory bike in Scot Honda for Bautista, so the racing may end up just as devided.

Also, teams like Suzuki/Kawasaki with only one team will be exempt so they can get new talent, not only able to pick from existing MotoGP riders. I reckon they should be held to this as well though - this would promote more bikes on the grid in time...maybe :)

Edwards...I can see Yamaha trying to hold onto him because by all accounts he is a fantastic development rider. Even if they have him on a SBK, and test riding the GP bike for development (Like Bayliss with Ducati).

[SlideMoto]

Edwards...I can see Yamaha trying to hold onto him because by all accounts he is a fantastic development rider. Even if they have him on a SBK, and test riding the GP bike for development (Like Bayliss with Ducati).

interesting you should say that. I remember when Edwards 1st rode the Aprillia he said that the counter shaft sprocket was 25mil to high.

WTF??? how the hell can you tell that from one test day?

A bit like Rossis 1st fang on the Yamha. Climbed off and said that the swing arms to short. Yamaha didnt have a longer one on hand so the engineers on site added to it. No shit. Instatntly a better handeling bike that Mr Rossi went heaps quicker on.

[denill]

And will they move Colin Edwards out. I love the guys attitude but will he ever win a GP?

But he so nearly did. He must be still having nightmares over that.............. :shifty:

[Badjelly]

I believe the title of the thread has changed.

Can Nicky win another GP? Certainly. Can he win another championship. Ya're dreaming!

I rate him well behind Rossi, Stoner, Lorenzo & Pedrosa. But definitely good enough to take out a WorldSBK title on the right bike.