Would you race in post post classics [Archive]

scracha

9th July 2009, 14:03

Benk

9th July 2009, 14:24

No, but it's a good idea........................................ in 10 years time, when they become the new 'posties' bikes. Till then, sell your mid 90s road bike to me, for cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeap.

Skunk

9th July 2009, 14:32

But one of the front running 600's is a 2004 model... it's still competitive.

I think it's the rider with the issues - in the head. 80% of riding is in the head stuff. (Read that sentence carefully - it's not an insult to anyone)

Why does everyone want a class for everything? Face it - sooner or later what you're riding will not be competitive. Upgrade it or race it best you can. Stop inventing classes so it can be competitive. It doesn't improve the racing.

t3mp0r4ry nzr

9th July 2009, 15:10

Love em 90's "superbikes". Yes I would be interested in racing if there was such a class. Could buy a bike tomorrow for the class for $3,500. Would have to get in quick though, as the demand for these ole beasts created from this race class would push up the prices to around modern used supersport money, then suddenly the cheap buy-in is not so cheap after all.

Or, we could run these bikes in current F1, have 75% of the performance of leading SBK for $3.5 and be happy putting the laps in mid-pack, where we would be learning alot more than running around in the other "slower" classes. If F1 is too fast, then there is always clubbies.

Such a class would be a double edged sword in my opinion, but worthy of thought.

ajturbo

9th July 2009, 16:19

i think we should have a class where rule number one is..

NO OVER TAKING AJ....

what a class that would be!!!!

mossy1200

9th July 2009, 16:27

i think we should have a class where rule number one is..

NO OVER TAKING AJ....

what a class that would be!!!!That would need to be the AJ cup where second is almost first.You dont get the cup cause AJ gets it every year.
If AJ falls points go back to the last lap AJ was leading.

everyone wants to mess with postclassic which is ment to be exactly that older bikes(no fuel injection or usd etc.
This would be better transforming clubmans into a=modern b=pre2000 and revisit champ points.
There is already 30+ entries into postclassic every meeting.
Add more bikes and it will kill the midpack to tail enders who just cant qualify if you add faster bikes to the mix.All this will achieve is the old posties getting shoved into clubmans by default.Now your calling post classic clubmans and clubmans postclassic.

there is plenty of suitable pre89 gsxr1100s and zxr400s etc waiting for track conversion for $2000-$4000.
if you want to race postclassic buy one.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-227835663.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-228420913.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Tourers/auction-228877280.htm

there is heaps of them search under 4k and prior 1990

this is one i built in spare time $1400 finished including purchace.It should be out there at round three.

zxr400#150

9th July 2009, 16:40

i 2nd that, im an AJ too lol

Benk

9th July 2009, 17:05

there is plenty of suitable pre89 gsxr1100s and zxr400s etc waiting for track conversion for $2000-$4000.
if you want to race postclassic buy one.

I dont understand it either mossy. I paid 2800 for my bike, with tyre warmers and brand new wets. I was racing for under 3500 (leathers, license, blah blah), and I would be surprised if my racing and trackdays over the last year would have exceeded 5000. I still havnt reached the limits of my bike and improve every time I get out on the track.

How much cheaper do ya want it for fuck sake!

If people want a pre 2000 class because they love the bikes, or whatever, thats cool with me, but as a MONEY saving exercise, gimme a break. If you want a cheap sport take up squash. Like the old saying, if you need an excuse, any excuse will do.

mossy1200

9th July 2009, 17:09

I dont understand it either mossy. I paid 2800 for my bike, with tyre warmers and brand new wets. I was racing for under 3500 (leathers, license, blah blah), and I would be surprised if my racing and trackdays over the last year would have exceeded 5000. I still havnt reached the limits of my bike and improve every time I get out on the track.

How much cheaper do ya want it for fuck sake!

If people want a pre 2000 class because they love the bikes, or whatever, thats cool with me, but as a MONEY saving exercise, gimme a break. If you want a cheap sport take up squash. Like the old saying, if you need an excuse, any excuse will do.
I have just added photos of the last one i built.Cost $1400 and i sold it for $1450 to a guy who plans to enter round three.its the third posty i have built and sold at little or no profit for under 2k.If someone in welly wants to convert a bike ill help them do it no charge(maybe some beers).I even have some rg race fairings that could adapt onto something that only owe me $140.You can get race tails new unpainted for $130 and catch bottle etc cost next to nothing.Build something if you cant find one prebuilt.

scracha

9th July 2009, 17:43

t3mp0r4ry nzr

9th July 2009, 17:58

You's are missing the point. It's not just about 'cheap'. There's no denying that pre89 is cheap. It's about moving on with the times. I'm pretty sure they had similar arguments when pre89 was first suggested umm..7 or 8 years ago?

An how cool would it be to see early blades, ZX-7R's and thundercats racing competitively and getting developed again?

agreed. Would be wicked to see and fun to race.
I would love to race a big bike fullstop, whether its 20 years old or 2 years old, its still quick!
So yeah, would definitely consider a bike to race in this class.

WarrenW

9th July 2009, 18:10

Ok so if it took 7 years to get pre 89 into the rules, this will take about the same time. Post Classics works as a formula because you DONT have to keep up with the times. Develop a bike and get familiar with it and gradually you get faster and faster until you are SOOO fast you may even beat me to the starting line LOL. No seriously the rules that exist do work after many years of debate and tweaking to get them right. Eventualy the bikes you are talking about now will be added to another 'era' class and then they coould be raced in a valid posties class. Until then keep plugging in the ideas but it will take time to get change so be patient.
Hopefully by the time they get to be included, the older bikes will be so few that the numbers in the class size will go through a boom just as it is now with the pre 89 added to the mix.

Just my 2c worth.

Drew

9th July 2009, 18:22

I'd prolly do one race on the RF for a laugh, but other than that, I dont like the idea.

Why does every motorcycle, need a race class to fit in?

Good to see those bikes developed again, someone said. Why? A short search will tell you what to do, to get more power/handling/cock stroking value from a ten year old bike.

Wanna fuck with your bike and race, enter clubmans. Get booted for going too fast, enter whatever you can fit in, you'll be fast enough.

hayd3n

9th July 2009, 18:48

i wanna race i wanna race
new tranny new cam lets go

scracha

10th July 2009, 19:25

i wanna race i wanna race
new tranny new cam lets go

Tranny's on bikes? Not sure if I wanna see that.

Drew

10th July 2009, 22:03

Tranny's on bikes? Not sure if I wanna see that.

Fuckin liar.

Chrislost

10th July 2009, 23:02

There are lots of very very cheap ex race and potential (as in road legal) race bikes out there that are too old to be competitive in the formula classes but too new for the "newest" post classic class (the now prehistoric pre-89 class). This seems a bloody shame.

If there were a pre-2000 or "7 year old bike and over" or similar class would you potentially be interested in competing in it (obviously depending on the specific capacity and machine restriction rules).

nope.
never!
I can remember some of the 90s... Id love a lightly modded 400 /250 2t class
all you need is a HP limit of around 65 and suspension rules that are similar to pre 89 post classics and you would have a cheep fun class."](20k for a competitive pro twin is not joe motorcyclists idea of cheep)

Deano

10th July 2009, 23:17

(20k for a competitive pro twin is not joe motorcyclists idea of cheep)

Don't minimise your font Chris - I have a competitive pro twin that owes me $10K spare rims and wets as well.

Where does $20k come from ?

Jarrod had his on TM for $8.5k

Cheshire Cat

10th July 2009, 23:22

Tranny's on bikes? Not sure if I wanna see that.

:clap: :lol: I could take a pic for you if you want?!!?!? I have two tranny friends:niceone:

Deano

10th July 2009, 23:27

:clap: :lol: I could take a pic for you if you want?!!?!? I have two tranny friends:niceone:

Let's not and say we did....or just not.....:niceone:

quickbuck

10th July 2009, 23:28

Okay...
Now Stevie is trying to tell me to get my bike to the track.....

Well, 10 hours till flag drop... better go to bed.

mossy1200

10th July 2009, 23:36

Don't minimise your font Chris - I have a competitive pro twin that owes me $10K spare rims and wets as well.

Where does $20k come from ?

Jarrod had his on TM for $8.5k
10k is not to bad my postie owes me that now and i have just ordered new discs for it.Should have got a f2 or pro twin.18months ago i said to the wife its a good deal and its ready to race at 4k.LOL
Its fast bike but high maintence like a trophy wife.

Cheshire Cat

10th July 2009, 23:43

Let's not and say we did....or just not.....:niceone:

how about i do it anyway:niceone: yeah?:niceone::niceone:

scracha

11th July 2009, 01:10

Fuckin liar.

Ok Drew, with your legs you'd look good in a dress :spanking:

Fuck the age and cc limit. Lets have no holds barred tranny bike racing.

No rossi style arse cams though

Chrislost

11th July 2009, 10:10

Don't minimise your font Chris - I have a competitive pro twin that owes me $10K spare rims and wets as well.

Where does $20k come from ?

Jarrod had his on TM for $8.5k

new bike. 10k
muffler $500
power commander $1k (tuned)
spare rims $1k
tyres (set) $750
wets (set) $700
suspension $1500 - 3k
braded lines $250
race fairings $1200

as opposed to my 400. (wasnt competitive in f3, allright in posties)
bike $2k
tyres (set) $450
wets (set) $600
fairings $850
exaust $1200. included tweaking the carbs.

CHET

11th July 2009, 12:31

I like chris,s idea we should keep post classic snr and jr but fit in a sub class like a formula 400,this would mean an any year 400cc class if youre bike is an 89 model then you could compete in two championships in one race anything after that would only be able to compete for the 400 title.There is obviously demand for something like this as i was told that at least ten of the bikes in the posties jr were inellegible due to there age i see this as people wanting to compete in a reasonbly even class,what about people on 450swould they be elligible ? No,but if there bike is an 89 they could still go for the 89 championship win. so what would be the benefits of this-
1 more even and competitive raceing(its what every racer wants)
2 a cheap class of raceing,something for the people raceing 150s to move up to at a reasonable cost insead of a 650 or 600.
3 I feel this would be a good solution to the current postie jr problem where everybody benefits after all if you were to remove ten bikes from one class that leaves fuck all competition which leads to boreing raceing to watch.

So what do ya think should we ask the club to look at this as a possible option or just knock it and come up with no real resolution to our current problems,this may not effect some of you but look at it from a bigger perspective would this encourage more people to race when a 400 costs between 3-5grand to buy and you could race it with no real changes and be competitive.
i look forward to any responses. :headbang:

scracha

11th July 2009, 16:09

\i look forward to any responses. :headbang:
Been suggested. Pointed out it's most popular racing class in OZ. Response was "wah...another class" etc etc etc.

Drew

11th July 2009, 19:44

new bike. 10kBuy a write off.

muffler $500
power commander $1k (tuned)Make your own, or I'll make ya one, (with as good flow) for $250. Power commander isn't essential, Wellington motorcycles will "tech-a-tune" it for half the cost.

spare rims $1kOrder them from Victoria Motorcycle dismantlers in Australia, for two thirds that amount.

tyres (set) $750
wets (set) $700
suspension $1500 - 3k
braded lines $250
race fairings $1200 Emulators could possibly be done yourself, to save cost there, and rear shocks are available second hand now.

as opposed to my 400. (wasnt competitive in f3, allright in posties)
bike $2k
tyres (set) $450
wets (set) $600
fairings $850
exaust $1200. included tweaking the carbs.$5,100 for a post classics bike, that was only alright. Did it need $1500-$3000 suspension aswell to get up to the pace? Cos that puts the bikes at pretty much the same price mate.

Drew

11th July 2009, 19:48

Been suggested. Pointed out it's most popular racing class in OZ. Response was "wah...another class" etc etc etc.

Change the record Stevie. Back in the day, there would have been room for more classes, because not all clubs catered all classes. In the current times, you would have a struggling event to not let everyone attend, unless you ran two meetings a month.

roadracingoldfart

11th July 2009, 20:50

In the current times, you would have a struggling event to not let everyone attend, unless you ran two meetings a month.

Now why has that plan not been hatched , split a seried so the riders in one event can race while the others could assist with running / marshals etc .
Hmmmmmm think people.

roadracingoldfart

11th July 2009, 20:56

:clap: :lol: I could take a pic for you if you want?!!?!? I have two tranny friends:niceone:

Is your Tranny friend the same one i know ????

Deano

12th July 2009, 09:30

new bike. 10k
muffler $500
power commander $1k (tuned)
spare rims $1k
tyres (set) $750
wets (set) $700
suspension $1500 - 3k
braded lines $250
race fairings $1200

You have expensive taste bro.

You don't need a new bike straight off the shop floor.

A Power commander is not necessary unless maybe you get a full race exhaust.

My rims cost me $750. Tyres are basically the same cost as a 400.

A mate just picked up a set of second hand fairings (some repairs needed) for FREE. Another mate bought a set off TM for $75.

Jarrod Wintle's SV is on TM for $8,500, and is well sorted. I have seen others on there for $10 - $11k - fully sorted.

Drew

12th July 2009, 10:01

Now why has that plan not been hatched , split a seried so the riders in one event can race while the others could assist with running / marshals etc .
Hmmmmmm think people.Twice the organising, and volunteers would be needed bro.

Peter Smith

12th July 2009, 13:36

Postie racing is good cheap fun. At most events there will be a class for the posties. Quite often there is only one race class so the pre '82s and pre '89s are all put together (this inclued juniors and seniors) as in the Vic Rd1 at taupo. Big fields and great fun, but there were some major speed differences on the back straight so some courtesy was required.
Now you want to add a pre 2000 (or '99) to an already full class, I don't think it would work.
In Aussie they have a pre '95 class that runs with the pre '89 bikes but they run a seperate class for the pre '82s.
Running them altogether would just get messy.
If you have a bike older than 89, race in clubman and have fun. If your fast enough step upto F2 or F1 and have fun. You dont need to win races to enjoy the sport. Personal PB lap times etc are good goals, and to beat a few modern bikes is also very satisfying.

roadracingoldfart

12th July 2009, 18:37

Twice the organising, and volunteers would be needed bro.

As i said in my original , the helper pool could be found in the non riding group as long as it was reciprical i cant see it not working.
As for twice the organising , i dont agree, once a system is in place its just a matter of adding a date to the format.
I appreciate there is alot of behind the scenes work but would it really increase the burden twofold ??

I await the likes of Dukegirl's (Skippy's) comments here.
Hell im happy to be wrong about this but if i dont suggest it i dont get the answer aye.
Maybe its time the P/C register started to run a few rounds more to allow the P/C class to have its own series in a bigger way. Ive tried to enter previous PCRR events and been told "no pre 89s allowed" .
This way the remaining classes can have more track time in the likes of VMCC. If something gets too big just snap it in half !!!
Its all just thinking aloud so put the shot guns and attitudes away folks.

Paul.

RDjase

12th July 2009, 19:52

As i said in my original , the helper pool could be found in the non riding group as long as it was reciprical i cant see it not working.
As for twice the organising , i dont agree, once a system is in place its just a matter of adding a date to the format.
I appreciate there is alot of behind the scenes work but would it really increase the burden twofold ??

I await the likes of Dukegirl's (Skippy's) comments here.
Hell im happy to be wrong about this but if i dont suggest it i dont get the answer aye.
Maybe its time the P/C register started to run a few rounds more to allow the P/C class to have its own series in a bigger way. Ive tried to enter previous PCRR events and been told "no pre 89s allowed" .
This way the remaining classes can have more track time in the likes of VMCC. If something gets too big just snap it in half !!!
Its all just thinking aloud so put the shot guns and attitudes away folks.

Paul.

The classic racing register (no jap bike bikes and pre76) is a different club to the Post Classic racing association . both have web sites . google them and we sus out some more racing
I think the problem with the lack of pre82 bikes started when pre89 came in(not a bad thing at all, more bikes is always good) and it just got called post classic and the pre82 had to race against pre89 (not as a seperate class) this made a heap of pre82 bikes stay in the shed as they wernt competetive. Now there are two classes(pre82 and pre89) in the Vic Club winter series and Pacific summer series Post classic racing the intrest in pre82 is coming back. I know of 3 LCs and 2 other pre82 bikes being built in HB at the moment.

RDjase

12th July 2009, 20:01

If we as racers can get more bikes racing, we may be able to have pre95?(or what ever year gets decided) and pre89 racing in one race and pre 82 and pre 72 in another. Bearing in mind we dont have much spare time in a race meeting anyway for any more races. If i want to cross enter into another class the only one my RD350LC is eligable for is F2. Hows that for some interesting racing , old 2 stroke 350s against R6s

roadracingoldfart

13th July 2009, 08:35

The classic racing register (no jap bike bikes and pre76) is a different club to the Post Classic racing association . both have web sites . google them and we sus out some more racing
I think the problem with the lack of pre82 bikes started when pre89 came in(not a bad thing at all, more bikes is always good) and it just got called post classic and the pre82 had to race against pre89 (not as a seperate class) this made a heap of pre82 bikes stay in the shed as they wernt competetive. Now there are two classes(pre82 and pre89) in the Vic Club winter series and Pacific summer series Post classic racing the intrest in pre82 is coming back. I know of 3 LCs and 2 other pre82 bikes being built in HB at the moment.

Ummm i know that thanks , thats why i quoted
PCRR = Post Classic Racing Register. (maybe it an association but thats ok i still used a " P ".

There is also 3 classes in VMCC , pre 72 , 82 , 89. all in the same race for seperate points :msn-wink:

As for your post about using diff wheels ( 17inch) why do you have a problem using them if they are allowed within the rules and yet you question the illegality of some other aspects. ? Surley the allowed rules are for safety and availability reasons.

Paul.

Peter Smith

13th July 2009, 09:16

Maybe its time the P/C register started to run a few rounds more to allow the P/C class to have its own series in a bigger way. Ive tried to enter previous PCRR events and been told "no pre 89s allowed" .
Paul.

Hi,
The NZCMRR- (classic motorcycle racing registrar) invited the post classic to there event at Pukekoke in Oct 08, they ran a pre '89 class for us (Jap' ers were allowed)
The NZPCRA (Post classic racing association) do run a series for post classics
and ran their own GP meeting at Taupo in Feb 09 and ran a bears class which was well attended.
I believe MNZ are considering making Post Classics part of the National Series.

RDjase

13th July 2009, 17:39

Ummm i know that thanks , thats why i quoted
PCRR = Post Classic Racing Register. (maybe it an association but thats ok i still used a " P ".

There is also 3 classes in VMCC , pre 72 , 82 , 89. all in the same race for seperate points :msn-wink:

As for your post about using diff wheels ( 17inch) why do you have a problem using them if they are allowed within the rules and yet you question the illegality of some other aspects. ? Surley the allowed rules are for safety and availability reasons.

Paul.

I thought you would know they were separate (and very different) clubs , Just when you said they wouldnt let you run pre89 , i asumed you must have been talking about the classic register. When did the Post Classic club say you couldnt run pre89?

as for the 17 inch wheels, you cant change major componants and put later ones on your bike but you can change wheels, just seems a strange rule. Old bikes-Old wheels . If you want to put late wheels on enter pre89 since you have wheel and tyre advantage. Im not to concerned about it , i will still race no matter what, theres always some one to have a dice with , alway leave the track with a big grin:Punk:

Kickaha

13th July 2009, 17:50

as for the 17 inch wheels, you cant change major componants and put later ones on your bike but you can change wheels, just seems a strange rule. Old bikes-Old wheels

It gives you a better tyre choice

It is cheaper in the long run to fit 17 inch wheels and run ex RS125 slicks than run the "old wheels" on a bike like yours

roadracingoldfart

13th July 2009, 17:54

It gives you a better tyre choice

It is cheaper in the long run to fit 17 inch wheels and run ex RS125 slicks than run the "old wheels" on a bike like yours

Its cheaper AND safer , a touring tyre is a bit dodgy on the track so hinge ya bets and get a modern tyre compatible rim set fitted. Its sensible. (and legal lol)

svr

13th July 2009, 18:03

Postie racing is good cheap fun

And thats the appeal right?
Anyone here think that Posties would be`ruined' for the rest by several properly fast racers on prepped RC30's and the like blowing everyone else off the track? Is there a tacit agreement that no-one spends too much and goes too fast ?

Chrislost

13th July 2009, 18:10

Kickaha

13th July 2009, 18:21

a touring tyre is a bit dodgy on the track

I wouldn't go quite that far I quite happily ran Bridgstone BT45 on my RD350LC and on a stock bike they were good enough for me to win occasionally, although the SI bikes generally run a lot closer to stock than the NI bikes

Is there a tacit agreement that no-one spends too much and goes too fast ?

You can't have watched to much Pre82 if you really think that

Drew

13th July 2009, 18:39

Is there a tacit agreement that no-one spends too much and goes too fast ?Read below

the frames will bend if you put too much power through them tho and this pretty much limits you...No way man, the most formidable posties at vic, are a Z1000, and a GS1000. Both methonlol breathing, wanked beyond belief toys I've ever seen. I'd love to take them for a thrash round the track.

Too cool

You can't have watched to much Pre82 if you really think thatYep, they know about buildin' wicked awesome bikes alright.

malcy25

13th July 2009, 18:47

And thats the appeal right?
Anyone here think that Posties would be`ruined' for the rest by several properly fast racers on prepped RC30's and the like blowing everyone else off the track? Is there a tacit agreement that no-one spends too much and goes too fast ?

Ruined, far from it.....try this. Jan this year the grid at Phillip Island for a pre 1980 style class had Wayne Gardner (CB1100R superbike), Malcolm Campbell (RG500 Suzuki GP bike), Robbie Phillis (GSX1100 Superbike), David Johnson (aussie in BSB, riding a McIntosh advertised recently on trademe). later in the weekend Campbell had reset the lap record to 1.41.9 Check this photo out. Not bad on a 29 year old bike witha 50+ y/old rider on treaded tyres.
http://www.highside.co.nz/2009-AMCN-Isl-Classic/index.html?show=91-60b-4154.html so you will have to click on the link

Reading AMCN, people are pretty well much gagging to do what they can to ride. I just read today that Posties is a support class again at the MotoGP at the island later this year.

tacit agreement - nah, not really - Like any class, there is always a few big spenders, but people will only spend what they can though which is not usually a huge amount.

Drew

13th July 2009, 18:52

http://www.highside.co.nz/2009-AMCN-Isl-Classic/index.html?show=91-60b-4154.html so you will have to click on the link

Click the next button a few times, the guy crashing dropped nuts! That should have been saved.

malcy25

13th July 2009, 18:56

Click the next button a few times, the guy crashing dropped nuts! That should have been saved.

His front brake lever got torn off by another bike during a close bit of passing action at the previous corner....arrived at next corner, not a hope of stopping

Drew

13th July 2009, 19:08

His front brake lever got torn off by another bike during a close bit of passing action at the previous corner....arrived at next corner, not a hope of stopping

Ahhhhhhh, I've played the game of realising there's no brakes, AT the next braking marker.

scracha

13th July 2009, 19:11

And thats the appeal right?
Anyone here think that Posties would be`ruined' for the rest by several properly fast racers on prepped RC30's and the like blowing everyone else off the track? Is there a tacit agreement that no-one spends too much and goes too fast ?
There's a few guys already who blow away the rest of the field on period bikes, never mind the new tackle. Do the rest of us give up and stop racing as a result?

To be honest, if someone turns up with an RC30 or a tricked up 916 then I'm not gonna complain....quite the opposite as it's the sort of thing everyone wants to see. A well sorted fireblade ridden by a decent rider will still spank an Rc30 ridden by a not so decent rider. Some of the pre72 and pre82 boys spend heaps and it's only a matter of time before pre89 goes the same way. Doesn't mean other competitors have to.

I can't really envisage running pre72/82/89 and post post classics (whatever cut off date that may be) in the one race unless there was a serious lack of entries (doubtful). As for fast pre82 riders getting bumped off by pre 89 senior bikes...well surely it'll be the fastest qualifiers in each class that get on the grid.

As for cross entering...do you think the F1/F2/F3 guys would be happier mixing it up with 20+ year old bikes or well sorted bikes from the 90's when bikes started to actually handle properly?

roadracingoldfart

13th July 2009, 19:35

Kickaha

13th July 2009, 19:49

As for cross entering...do you think the F1/F2/F3 guys would be happier mixing it up with 20+ year old bikes or well sorted bikes from the 90's when bikes started to actually handle properly?

There are quite a few well sorted bikes from a lot earlier than the 90's that do handle properly and I'd suggest if they are mixing it with the F1/F2/F3 guys then perhaps those guys should learn to ride a bit quicker

Chrislost

13th July 2009, 21:48

Read below

No way man, the most formidable posties at vic, are a Z1000, and a GS1000. Both methonlol breathing, wanked beyond belief toys I've ever seen. I'd love to take them for a thrash round the track.

Too cool

Yep, they know about buildin' wicked awesome bikes alright.

that would be Mr. deadmans z1000...
It only has 164 HP at the wheel.

Drew

13th July 2009, 21:50

that would be Mr. deadmans z1000...
It only has 164 HP at the wheel.

Only. Go google how many it had from the factory. Real power, that's double at least.

mossy1200

13th July 2009, 22:10

that would be Mr. deadmans z1000...
It only has 164 HP at the wheel.
Must find more fzr power.

Peter Smith

14th July 2009, 10:53

Peter Smith

14th July 2009, 11:37

Hey Guys,
Check out the club section of this forum NZPCRA for details of the Post Classic GP at Taupo on the 31st Oct 09.

ajturbo

14th July 2009, 13:34

You need to think about what you want from racing and then find a class that suits.

:Punk::Punk::Punk:

now THIS is the best one so far....!!!!!!!!!

Peter Smith

14th July 2009, 14:08

:Punk::Punk::Punk:

now THIS is the best one so far....!!!!!!!!!

That right, if you don't like getting into modifying motors look at a production class eg. pro-twins. If you love going to extremes race senior posties and you can go crazy 1300cc limit cams etc.
I race senior pre '89 on a stock bike (mods, air filters and a 4-1) and I am having a great time. I am also competitive.

RDjase

14th July 2009, 17:48

Maybe its time the P/C register started to run a few rounds more to allow the P/C class to have its own series in a bigger way. Ive tried to enter previous PCRR events and been told "no pre 89s allowed" .
This way the remaining classes can have more track time in the likes of VMCC. If something gets too big just snap it in half !!!
Its all just thinking aloud so put the shot guns and attitudes away folks.

Paul.

When did the Post Classic club say no pre89s, i think at some of the street races they run pre 82 only,

neil_cb125t

14th July 2009, 18:06

They allow pre 89 in wangas - did it last year.

Paeroa they did not have a class - as they run more classics

When did the Post Classic club say no pre89s, i think at some of the street races they run pre 82 only,

malcy25

14th July 2009, 18:12

They allow pre 89 in wangas - did it last year.

Paeroa they did not have a class - as they run more classics

Until recently (ie through 2006/7/8) if you have seen a pre89 bike at a street meeting which was running to MNZ rules , it shouldn't have been there unless it was specifically allowed in the supp regs. Pre 89 did not exist until only late last year at a formal level/MNZ rule level. The collary being that most events are stated as running to the MNZ rule book....

I'd say Wanganui let some in a couple of years back cos they didn't know any different....and assumed the riders did.

Kickaha

14th July 2009, 18:13

When did the Post Classic club say no pre89s, i think at some of the street races they run pre 82 only,

They allow pre 89 in wangas - did it last year.

They don't neccesarily allow them but people have entered under the impression that "Post classic" is pre 89 when that label was always used for the Pre82 class and then they have been allowed to run as there seems to be no system checking class eligibilty at entry or scrutineering

I'd say Wanganui let some in a couple of years back cos they didn't know any different....and assumed the riders did.

Thats exactly what happened in 2006, I emailed the organisers about it but didn't get a reply

scracha

14th July 2009, 18:21

So umm...does wanganui "officially" run pre 89 or not?

Kickaha

14th July 2009, 18:24

So umm...does wanganui "officially" run pre 89 or not?

looks like it, I guess the pre82 boys would just enter it as well
http://www.cemeterycircuit.co.nz/pdf/entry_forms/2009_cemeterycircuit.pdf

Drew

14th July 2009, 18:46

So umm...does wanganui "officially" run pre 89 or not?

looks like it, I guess the pre82 boys would just enter it as well
http://www.cemeterycircuit.co.nz/pdf/entry_forms/2009_cemeterycircuit.pdf

Since MNZ recognised pre '89 last year, methinks it was for the benefit of the streets more than nationals.

Kickaha

14th July 2009, 18:54

Since MNZ recognised pre '89 last year, methinks it was for the benefit of the streets more than nationals.

And club racing, Post classic isn't run as a National class although they run their own NZGP meeting (Taupo Oct 31st)

Peter Smith

15th July 2009, 14:28

So umm...does wanganui "officially" run pre 89 or not?

Yes they do. check their web site and down load an entry form for this year.
There is a post classic pre '89. I guess the pre '82 will race in the same class.
I might see you there.:Punk:

RDjase

17th July 2009, 18:52

Hows this for a idea?

2 separate Post classic races

Post Classic pre 82 and 72

Late Post Classic (or another name, any ideas welcome) Pre 95 and pre 89

We want more bikes on the track and more spectators. Taking the family out for the day can be a good day out , even if so said family doesnt know anything about bikes. The main (visual) difference between Pre 89 and pre 82 is huge . A ZXR400 compared to a RD350LC is light years apart. Even Joe bloggs who doesnt know much about bikes can see the full fairings ,USDs and 3 spoke mags and wide slicks ect, compared to the pre82/72 bikes,

To get this pre95 class going should not bump off the pre82/72 bikes to another class (DANGEROUS CLUBMANS, bad rider on a R1, Good rider on a FZR600 doing the same lap time). What is needed is all the Pre 82 and 72 bikes to get back on he track to allow the New pre95/89 class. There used to be heaps of pre 82 and 72 bikes racing. were are they? Did they all get parked up when pre89 started? Pre 82(junior) can be a cheap class. GS550 , XJ550, GPZ550, LCs ,X7s ,all competive bikes and dont break the bank. Pre 82 senior is a different story as you all know by the AWESOME 1000s racing.

The other problem is were can this new proposed class fit in on a race day? There is only so much time on the day for all the classes. What class could go if this did work? Clubmans bikes all done on laptimes to race in what ever class suits there speed?

This post is in " a new excitinging class of racing" as well as they seems to talking about he same thing

Mumbles

17th July 2009, 21:37

Is your Tranny friend the same one i know ????

Not the same one that i know.... they could be twins... :gob:

scracha

18th July 2009, 08:57

Not the same one that i know.... they could be twins... :gob:

A curse on you : May your missus get pregnant with triplets........ginger ones. (good photoshopping handbag skills though)

The 'yes' votes look promising. There's already more 'yes' votes on our little forum thingie than pro twins and 125 riders. Maybe if the 'yes' voters gave me their names we can further discuss and perhaps convince the PMCC or summit to run this as a class in summer and see how it all goes?

Oh umm..small matter of figuring out the exact rules.

If they all tell us to bugger off then we just start our own little club and do it ourselves.