Why is it so hard to sell a bike?

[ducatilover]

:blank: why is it so hard to sell a bike these days, the last one I sold took 3 days to be gone! :( But, alas, the mighty spada is not selling. :Oi: Buy it, am getting a new bike:clap:

[glice]

its only hard if when people expect too much.

The last 2 bikes I've sold have gone within a day on trademe.

[davebullet]

REading your advert, you sound like the kind of person to take care of a machine (regular oil change / servicing etc...).

Could be:
The mileage (yes - I know a well maintained bike this is not an issue but can put potential buyers off)
We are in winter
You live out of town therefore less buyers and less people willing to take a punt over the net.

I don't think the price is unreasonable given it is a spada. Getting the seat repaired / recovered may help.

Just a thought... do you have the original front end bits incase the new owner wants to take it back to stock? Can't remember from your ad whether you mentioned...

[Oakie]

Dunno. Looks good, price seems fair.
Possibly, like me, some buyers aren't interested in bikes that have been altered from standard for whatever reason and yours has had quite a bit done. Just a thought.

[hospitalfood]

it could be because not many people want to own this particular bike, or in less polite terms ( with love ) its a faggy little piece of shit, which is why you want rid of it I guess.

try advertising it a scary

best of luck

[Molly]

Everybody seems to want to buy at bargain prices but sell their shit for a fortune. That said, I wouldn't be too quick to reduce the price. The right buyer might be just around the corner. Don't let the slow start make you mentally devalue your bike.

[ducatilover]

I don't think I am asking too much for the spada....:argue: It's a very tidy bike with the exception of the seat, which happens to be $90 I am not willing to spend when I have a new toy on the way.
I can see the faggy piece of shit part there, but I don't think that's fair, find a more forgiving 250, or one that's easier to ride.
I can understand the being modified part though, I myself tend to steer towards a blank canvas.
I have consistently worked towards building the ideal 250 [not ultimate, a spada wouldn't manage] and I think I have achieved it. I must get new piccys up though, shes changed yet again.:rolleyes: Thanks for the opinions.

[Squiggles]

Modified and there are alot of similarly priced bikes in the major centres at the moment

[ducatilover]

REading your advert, you sound like the kind of person to take care of a machine (regular oil change / servicing etc...).

Could be:
The mileage (yes - I know a well maintained bike this is not an issue but can put potential buyers off)
We are in winter
You live out of town therefore less buyers and less people willing to take a punt over the net.

I don't think the price is unreasonable given it is a spada. Getting the seat repaired / recovered may help.

Just a thought... do you have the original front end bits incase the new owner wants to take it back to stock? Can't remember from your ad whether you mentioned...
I only have the original mudgaurd here now, the standard light are absolutely hopeless. But I can remove the fairing and mounts as I think I have stated in the ad.
50km isn't too high on one of these [unless you get the dreaded camchain rattle] if you use the right oil it will last well over 100km. Ask gatch, I have his old motor in my workshop, it went pop at 123km

[wickle]

Try Different photos ,reword your write up, think what's a buyer looking for!

[ducatilover]

Try Different photos ,reword your write up, think what's a buyer looking for!

I will do that. Any suggestions?

[hayd3n]

get your new picks up pronto
show tyre wear etc

[Lurch]

I agree that a fresh listing will always drag in new buyers, sell it hard by talking up what YOU like about it and how badly you wish you didn't have to sell it.

But it's not going to be easy to sell a bike that's pre-90's, it's hard enough to sell one pre 2000 in general.

[Dodgyiti]

Some good advice already listed

I thought you were being honest, I would rather know the good and bad points and it saves trouble later because you have the auction to reference if there are any dispites regarding condition etc.

List as many pics as they let you for free (20?) as mentioned already.

The price is fair, but it's the non standard parts/paintwork that made me think crash damage- and that was before I read your post as I had seen the add a while back- just my opinion at the time when I first saw it.
Good luck, sometimes when a bike is not moving you take a deep breath, make the add and pictures as good as you can and put it on for $1

And worry yourself sick for 2 weeks

[BigOne]

If you want honest feed-back- Remove the fairing, get the bike looking as stock as possible. Don't mention mods, spares or anything else that tells buyers you have been fooling around with it. Leave out the personal stories about your condition, and all the excuses and blather.
Put up a new listing, with new pictures without the modified items, as far as possible.
Just my thoughts.

[ducatilover]

Seems a bit silly to spend time on something, yet nobody wants a better than normal example. I may take the fairing off, but it won't have the standard single headlight on as I don't have it.
I will re write the listing, if anybody has anything that they genuinely think would be good on the listing please PM me. I'm not the greatest salesman.

[Mikkel]

One word: finance.

I tried to sell my 250 for almost a year. I wasn't asking too much for the bike as such, but the customers I were targeting (young guys wanting a nice 250 sportsbike) just didn't have the disposable cash to spare.

I went to a dealer who sold it on behalf - I dropped it off on the friday, it was sold and everything had been sorted by wednesday. Finance was what made the difference - my auction reserve on trademe was 4,500 the dealer sold it for 6,000.

[marty]

Because for another grand i can have an unmolested 10 year newer lower km VTR250?

[ducatilover]

One word: finance.

I tried to sell my 250 for almost a year. I wasn't asking too much for the bike as such, but the customers I were targeting (young guys wanting a nice 250 sportsbike) just didn't have the disposable cash to spare.

I went to a dealer who sold it on behalf - I dropped it off on the friday, it was sold and everything had been sorted by wednesday. Finance was what made the difference - my auction reserve on trademe was 4,500 the dealer sold it for 6,000.

Would that be worth trying? I could put it on the floor in masterton or palmy

[mossy1200]

:blank: why is it so hard to sell a bike these days, the last one I sold took 3 days to be gone! :( But, alas, the mighty spada is not selling. :Oi: Buy it, am getting a new bike:clap:

My advice is remove all the details from your description.
Just tell people the carbs are dialed in and bike runs smooth.
Let them ask you about things rather than bulk up your auction.
Word your fairing mod as
Front fairing installed for extra wind protection.Easy mod back to stock.
Tell people how well they handle and how much fun the bike has been.
mention low maintence reliable learner bike then leave it at that.

good luck the price seems good for a 250.Dont drop you dollars.Your waiting for the right buyer not the bottom dollar buyer.
Someone who wants your bike will buy it at that price.

[ducatilover]

Because for another grand i can have an unmolested 10 year newer lower km VTR250?

Then why not go buy a hyosung? Or cbr250? A matter of personal taste....

[mossy1200]

Because for another grand i can have an unmolested 10 year newer lower km VTR250?
another grand is an age away for a 17-18 year old buying his/her first bike.
His market is the cash buyer .At 3grand plus 250 buyers walk into bike shops and sign hp agreements.

[ducatilover]

another grand is an age away for a 17-18 year old buying his/her first bike.
His market is the cash buyer .At 3grand plus 250 buyers walk into bike shops and sign hp agreements.

And even by 250 standards a vtr is gutless :dodge:

[Boob Johnson]

another grand is an age away for a 17-18 year old buying his/her first bike.
His market is the cash buyer .At 3grand plus 250 buyers walk into bike shops and sign hp agreements.
Nail on the head. Not only is it about finance it's also a maturity thing. A first time buyer is inexperienced (in most cases) & will (again in most cases) feel more comfortable with the fall back you get when using a dealer.

Also don't forget there is a recession on if you haven't picked up a paper in a while, the worst in 70 years :blink:

[ducatilover]

Also don't forget there is a recession on if you haven't picked up a paper in a while, the worst in 70 years :blink:

You are joking right???? :baby:

[Boob Johnson]

You are joking right???? :baby:
I jest you not :baby:

[ducatilover]

I jest you not :baby:

My god, that's terrible!

[CookMySock]

Remove the fairing, get the bike looking as stock as possible [....]Agreed. Market it for what it is - a super reliable, easy to ride learner or commuter bike, that is dead cheap to run, feed, and fix, complete with good sound and looks as a bonus. The chix will be lining up for that right away. :whistle:

Steve

[ducatilover]

Agreed. Market it for what it is - a super reliable, easy to ride learner or commuter bike, that is dead cheap to run, feed, and fix, complete with good sound and looks as a bonus. The chix will be lining up for that right away. :whistle:

Steve

It's a girls bike? No wonder my bum gets touched, I thought I just had a sexy arse

[Scouse]

Or you could try to wake up and smell the coffee there is a recession on at the moment do ya think this might possibly have some bearing on why it is hard to sell things?

[ducatilover]

Or you could try to wake up and smell the coffee there is a recession on at the moment do ya think this might possibly have some bearing on why it is hard to sell things?

Yes that has been pointed out and I am fully aware of that. Coffee would be nice thanks

[rocketman1]

During these tough times...cheap is the trick, I feel sorry for people that are having to sell their bikes in these troubled times, most of the real cheap bikes sell easily, the better bikes just are not selling.
Look at the number for sale on trade me, about 8300 bikes for sale, last year it never got over 6500, tells a story aye.
I have a good KDX for sale but Im not going to give it away, I may as well just keep it for a rainy day, to ride again some day.

[ducatilover]

How are these for better pics? We are on tank water so I'm not allowed to wash the bike :Pokey:

[Taz]

It's because you're asking a silly price for a 20 year old bike.

[ducatilover]

It's because you're asking a silly price for a 20 year old bike.

Silly?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-229460506.htm

That is silly, only has 20 thou left in it and not as learner friendly as mine :baby:

[sil3nt]

Those new photos look terrible! Far to dark can't see shit! If you want the bike to sell take the damn front fairing off. You may think it looks cool but others do not. Your target is the learners market. They see this advertised and google vtr 250 only to find something that looks completely different.

[grusomhat]

Umm.... Winter + Recession = not very good market.

In a month or so you should be able to sell it.

[ducatilover]

Those new photos look terrible! Far to dark can't see shit! If you want the bike to sell take the damn front fairing off. You may think it looks cool but others do not. Your target is the learners market. They see this advertised and google vtr 250 only to find something that looks completely different.

I have written why the fairing is on there, as stated it is on there for a practical reason, not too look cool. The twin lights also work a lot better than a standard fucked candle headlight. Is there something wrong with a practical solution? If it does not sell I will re list with the fairing off.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/browse/categoryattributesearchresults.aspx?search=1&mcat=0001-0026-1255-&sidebar=1&39=Sports&40=&153=&9=250%2C250&24=1995%2C1980&51=0%2C0&sort_order=price_asc Find one in here that is better value for money?

[Taz]

Silly?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-229460506.htm

That is silly, only has 20 thou left in it and not as learner friendly as mine :baby:

Yeah but that hasn't sold either.....

This is what you're up against, This one sold......
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-222144565.htm

And this
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-227214887.htm

These examples actually sold.

On that basis I'd value yours at 1500 to 1800 max.

Plus first impressions count. Clean the thing, take some good pics in good light, adjust price. I'm not trying to be an a$$hole here just answering your question about why it isn't selling. Good luck.

[ducatilover]

Yeah but that hasn't sold either.....

This is what you're up against, This one sold......
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-222144565.htm

On that basis I'd value yours at 1500 to 1800 max.
I honestly think mine is worth atleast 2500. Perhaps it would be better to see it in the flesh and talk to me about the service history. I have stated I am willing to deliver. That vtr was a very exceptional deal though, no argument from me there. But for a leaner my bike may be better, having more torque might help them along. The vtr usually fetches 3700 and upwards from what I have seen, many with more km than my bike. Mine is in brilliant mechanical condition, the frame is getting touched up this friday to get rid of the stone chips and I am giving it a full clean and service later this week also. What's wrong with a well kept 20 year old bike?

[ducatilover]

That second vtr did not sell. Would a young chap be seeking a small amount of performance for his money? I know I did, hence why I purchased a gpz400r as my first bike and a bros650 as a third bike. For the money I had they were brilliant. Find something for the same price that offers similar or better characteristics

[AllanB]

I don't see the fairing as an issue - in fact for the target market - young guys wanting to get into bikes, it would be a draw-card - sporty you see :cool:

Price - don't know, have not looked at the 250 market for 28 years, you'll know more here. You could always start with a no reserve $2200 price....

It's the photos that put me off. The bike needs a good clean - I see road grime all over the lower half and they look like they were taken at dusk.

If you live on a unsealed road - wait until the weekend, water blast the bike down & clean it until it shines - then take photos while it is still clean. :apint:

Push the pros - excellent learner bike, reliable, just tuned (sounds better than dialed in).

[ducatilover]

I don't see the fairing as an issue - in fact for the target market - young guys wanting to get into bikes, it would be a draw-card - sporty you see :cool:

Price - don't know, have not looked at the 250 market for 28 years, you'll know more here. You could always start with a no reserve $2200 price....

It's the photos that put me off. The bike needs a good clean - I see road grime all over the lower half and they look like they were taken at dusk.

If you live on a unsealed road - wait until the weekend, water blast the bike down & clean it until it shines - then take photos while it is still clean. :apint:

Push the pros - excellent learner bike, reliable, just tuned (sounds better than dialed in).
Yeah I am in a rural area. Will clean the baby when I have touched up the stone chips. I am wanting 2500 at the least...
I do agree she needs a very good clean, but I had only just got home and was about to put her in the garage there. Will get new pics, yet again and make it an auction at lower price.

[ducatilover]

I can't figure how to make into an auction. Do I have to withdraw and relist?:baby:

[Taz]

Yes .

[ducatilover]

Yes .

I'm relisting it now. Thanks for the advice anthrax, I am sure you can understand if I am silly and want $2500, after all it may be sentimentality getting in my way of reasoning. :apint:

[monkeymcbean]

I agree with AllanB, presentation is very important if you are selling online with only photos for a buyer to make a visual assessment.
A photo can conjure up a story and what i thought was the bike was dirty and unloved.
As you say you travel along a dirt road, which then makes me think with all grit and grime stuck in the engine, grime sratches on the paint work.
If the seller he is presenting this bike, in this condition for sale, he does not take pride and joy in his bike, might be a sale to avoid.
Hey but im a female, so don't take what i say too seriously, but i do buy alot online and my hunches are pretty good about things.

[ducatilover]

I agree with AllanB, presentation is very important if you are selling online with only photos for a buyer to make a visual assessment.
A photo can conjure up a story and what i thought was the bike was dirty and unloved.
As you say you travel along a dirt road, which then makes me think with all grit and grime stuck in the engine, grime sratches on the paint work.
If the seller he is presenting this bike, in this condition for sale, he does not take pride and joy in his bike, might be a sale to avoid.
Hey but im a female, so don't take what i say too seriously, but i do buy alot online and my hunches are pretty good about things.

I think you make very good points, I will get the photos sorted as soon as possible, I do love the wee girl, it's just time to move on. I clean the bike at work once a week and always degrease the front of the engine because, as you mentioned, dirt and mud and yuck shit get stuck to it and it bakes on. Also the same reason I remove the calipers every month or 2500km while doing an oil change to clean the seals and slides. :first: Thank you for pointing that out to me.

[GOONR]

I've just bought a 250 but when I was look at trademe generally I would avoid anything that...

1. Mentioned heaps of spares..
2. Was modified. You just don't know about the quality of someone else's work. (not having a go at you and your mod is easy to but back to stock)
3. Wasn't clean in the photo's. To me it looks like it hasn't been looked after (rightly or wrongly).


I guess really I'm just repeating what has been mentioned already but seems I have recently been looking I thought I'd share what I looked for in the adverts.

Get the bike nice and sparkly. That will hold someone's interest longer, get them looking at your add over and over whilst comparing it with what else they can get for the same amount of dollars.

Good luck!

[ducatilover]

I've just bought a 250 but when I was look at trademe generally I would avoid anything that...

1. Mentioned heaps of spares..
2. Was modified. You just don't know about the quality of someone else's work. (not having a go at you and your mod is easy to but back to stock)
3. Wasn't clean in the photo's. To me it looks like it hasn't been looked after (rightly or wrongly).


I guess really I'm just repeating what has been mentioned already but seems I have recently been looking I thought I'd share what I looked for in the adverts.

Get the bike nice and sparkly. That will hold someone's interest longer, get them looking at your add over and over whilst comparing it with what else they can get for the same amount of dollars.

Good luck!
Thanks, I will clean the poor girl. It does look a bit sad

[ducatilover]

Nice clean pics, one of the photos is a wee bit blurry, it's bloody cold and I was shivering like a pussy. They should be up on the ad now

[yungatart]

My opinion...because you took a really classy looking little bike and bastardized it.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...you made that Spada look ugggly....original is best!

[ducatilover]

My opinion...because you took a really classy looking little bike and bastardized it.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...you made that Spada look ugggly....original is best!

I love it. :cool: I couldn't stand that silly headlight.

[McDuck]

My opinion...because you took a really classy looking little bike and bastardized it.
Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder...you made that Spada look ugggly....original is best!


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[Brian d marge]

Ya have to admit though

Tard me does provide a laugh

10 000 dollars for a wammer Jameer WHAT?

Honda cg125 2k :rolleyes:

CB750 13k


if ever there is evidence for the miss use of drugs ,,,tard me it it

The prices seem to be coming down a touch ( the baby boomers selling toys , now need the money !!)

Stephen

[Mystic13]

As shown in the pictures the bike has a newly built exhaust, (makes it sound like a home job) full extractors and end cans. Sounds amazing and no need to worry about the standard balance bow baffle rusting. Has been tuned to suit the exhaust.
She has been a great little bike, runs very nice and smooth now the carbs have been tuned and synchronized, handles absolutely brilliantly! (implies it didn’t go well before)



I prefer listings that are clean and easy to read like this. Use of space and one point per line. And great photos.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-228737073.htm

I think you could clean the listing up heaps and for me I think;

- clean bike in the bike pics
- repair the seat
- get plenty of shots including close up of rubber etc.
- take the photo's with light on the bike so yes you'll have to move the bike.
- take the bike pics in a clean space.
- likewise if someone came to see the bike I'd show it to them at work cleaned.

Right now it is a bit of a buyers market for bikes and bikes do sell for less on TM in winter. But if you sell and buy now it's all relative.

Good luck with the sale.

[ducatilover]

I prefer listings that are clean and easy to read like this. Use of space and one point per line. And great photos.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-228737073.htm

I think you could clean the listing up heaps and for me I think;

- clean bike in the bike pics
- repair the seat
- get plenty of shots including close up of rubber etc.
- take the photo's with light on the bike so yes you'll have to move the bike.
- take the bike pics in a clean space.
- likewise if someone came to see the bike I'd show it to them at work cleaned.

Right now it is a bit of a buyers market for bikes and bikes do sell for less on TM in winter. But if you sell and buy now it's all relative.

Good luck with the sale.
I think the price reflects the seat, $90 to fix it.
I will get some of the rubber soon.
Bit hard to get light on the bike on a shitty wet overcast day in eketahuna sadly.
That happens to be the cleanest part of my section...unless I put the bike in a paddock.
The work idea is good thanks, that is where all the work to the has been done.

[Dare]

I think the price reflects the seat, $90 to fix it.
I will get some of the rubber soon.
Bit hard to get light on the bike on a shitty wet overcast day in eketahuna sadly.
That happens to be the cleanest part of my section...unless I put the bike in a paddock.
The work idea is good thanks, that is where all the work to the has been done.

KISS principle, listed points, sexy photos of the important bits. And I'm not digging the half fairing (sorry) might just be my 'all or nothing' attitude to fairings though.. :dodge:

[ducatilover]

KISS principle, listed points, sexy photos of the important bits. And I'm not digging the half fairing (sorry) might just be my 'all or nothing' attitude to fairings though.. :dodge:

:first: No need to like it. I do, hopefully somebody else does. I think my definition of asking too much is a poor 650 katana for $3k...not a tidy little toy:devil2:

[Taz]

New photo's look much better.

[ducatilover]

New photo's look much better.
Thank you. :first: :2thumbsup:drinkup:

[Mystic13]

Yep +1 on the pics. You could also wander up to Manfield for Round 3 of the Actrix Winter series this Saturday and leave a big 4 sale sign on the bike.

It might not sell the bike but it gives you a reason to go watch the racing.

[ducatilover]

Yep +1 on the pics. You could also wander up to Manfield for Round 3 of the Actrix Winter series this Saturday and leave a big 4 sale sign on the bike.

It might not sell the bike but it gives you a reason to go watch the racing.

Hahaha Sounds like a good idea! :first:

[sil3nt]

Just curious did you get any interest from your classified?

[ducatilover]

Just curious did you get any interest from your classified?

A singular question so far today =D before that I only got offered a swap with a kp71 starlet

[GOONR]

A singular question so far today =D before that I only got offered a swap with a kp71 starlet

Hey it's a step in the right direction..

[ducatilover]

Hey it's a step in the right direction..

It certainly is

Thanks to all those who have helped :first:

[bacabiila]

Hi mate. I know how you feel, my bikes struggling to sell aswell. Good luck-hope it sells.

[ducatilover]

Hi mate. I know how you feel, my bikes struggling to sell aswell. Good luck-hope it sells.

Cheers dude, good luck with yours too :apint:

[zooter]

Has it been crashed and repaired? That's sure what it looks like. Better to be upfront about it. You could leave out the fact that it's got brand new exhaust on it. Just had a carb tune is plenty of info.

The somewhat unsalubrious neighbourhood photos don't really help.

The ad copy doesn't "sell" it to any particular buyer. There's a bit of a science to it which I can't be ased explaining. I sold a beatup old vt250f for 1800 by offering it as a learner machine you wouldn't cry about dropping.

How about listing it as the learner machine for the taller bloke? The highway capable 250 you can ride all day?

The problem with learner 250 bikes is they're little! Your vtr250 spada has oodles of get up and go but it's not all arse up head down cramped like a cbr, zzr, gsxr. You've ridden it all over right?

CBR fairing helps on the long rides too.

[FROSTY]

Ok dude my opinion.
I won't gild the lilly here and keep in mind it is my opinion.
1)your pictures are terrible -The secret is to do them in good light with a very simple but complimentary background. --iM NOT PARTICULARLY GOOD AT PICTURES BUT HAVE A LOOK AT THE mILLARSCARCENTRE ADVERTS
2) the wording suggests the bikes a rebuilt wrightoff
3) the bike isn't origonal or origonal apearing.

[ready4whatever]

its a buyers market

[FROSTY]

I just had a bit of a play with the words for ya. Hope it helps

The VT250 range has developed a reputation for being a fantastic all round motorcycle. This model -the spada 250 makes an ideal first bike.
or commuter. These bikes have smooth m power and great handling.
I have owned this bike since April 2006. This bike runs well and has been well looked after.
These bikes are great to learn on and are much better performers than for example Suzuki GN250. They are also not full on race replicas so you are sitting in a more natural riding position. You dont outgrow these bikes so quickly as they have more than enough performance and handling for when you get the full licence.

- Recently had a full service and tune including carb balancing.
- Sold with a NEW WOF and 3 months registration
I have fitted an aftermarket fairing,mirrors and headlights Ive loved riding the bike with the fairing on and better lights. Not only is it safer at night it makes the ride more enjoyable.
Ive kept all the origonal parts if you prefer the naked look.

Im happy to help out with delivery in the lower middle North Island or organise getting the bike freighted. I am also happy to supply the buyer with some riding gear, Pants, Jacket and gloves.


Any questions, feel free to ask. Thank you for your time. :-)

[MSTRS]

Frosty, you are an evil shark....even I'm tempted, now....

[mynameis]

Put $1 reserve on that shitter or get a perm Douglas.

[ducatilover]

Has it been crashed and repaired? That's sure what it looks like. Better to be upfront about it. You could leave out the fact that it's got brand new exhaust on it. Just had a carb tune is plenty of info.

The somewhat unsalubrious neighbourhood photos don't really help.

The ad copy doesn't "sell" it to any particular buyer. There's a bit of a science to it which I can't be ased explaining. I sold a beatup old vt250f for 1800 by offering it as a learner machine you wouldn't cry about dropping.

How about listing it as the learner machine for the taller bloke? The highway capable 250 you can ride all day?

The problem with learner 250 bikes is they're little! Your vtr250 spada has oodles of get up and go but it's not all arse up head down cramped like a cbr, zzr, gsxr. You've ridden it all over right?

CBR fairing helps on the long rides too.
The "neighborhood" photos are just your general rural driveway...
I wanted to mention the exhaust as it is another non standard item.
I have done quite a few long trips, MSTRS, HXC and I did 500km or more in one day. Both spadas did very well and were extremely comfy, just the wind buffeting nothered me, now it can't get me. It's not cramped like the sportier 250's, it's a great compromise
No, this bike has never been crashed. I have painted it because I like black, black is good.


Ok dude my opinion.
I won't gild the lilly here and keep in mind it is my opinion.
1)your pictures are terrible -The secret is to do them in good light with a very simple but complimentary background. --iM NOT PARTICULARLY GOOD AT PICTURES BUT HAVE A LOOK AT THE mILLARSCARCENTRE ADVERTS This has been pointed out to me, when the weather has improved beyond gale force wind and rain I will endeavor to get pretty and flattering photos.
2) the wording suggests the bikes a rebuilt wrightoff
I can see how, viewing the bike will sort that assumption out
3) the bike isn't origonal or origonal apearing.
I am well aware of this too, it may be a thing that can only be understood or appreciated after riding the bike
Thanks Frosty:yes:


Put $1 reserve on that shitter or get a perm Douglas. I will get a perm, after a flamingo forgets how to fly :rockon:

[GOONR]

How many people have viewed the bike? Did they say why they didn't want to buy it?

[ducatilover]

How many people have viewed the bike? Did they say why they didn't want to buy it?

Nobody yet, the fact I am in eketahuna may be bad....I have been offered a few swaps, unless it's an aw11 manual or morrie ute [:Oops:] I'm not too interested

[GOONR]

I think your wording is better but the photo's could still be improved..

Presentation is, in my opinion, the key to getting people to come and take a look. Personally, I'd take photo's with nothing in the background if you can. That way there is nothing to distract the focus away from the bike.

Take photo's that are clear and show detail, if anything needs touching up do that first.

When I was looking it was the photo's that drew me back to any particular advert.

In this market people can be fickle and will pick holes in anything because they know there will be another bike not far away for the same kind of $$.

Again, good luck :)

[GOONR]

One more thing, if you think your location is a reason why people aren't coming to look at it change the location of the bike if you can. Leave it with a mate for viewing etc..

[Taz]

Nobody yet, the fact I am in eketahuna may be bad....I have been offered a few swaps, unless it's an aw11 manual or morrie ute [:Oops:] I'm not too interested

Hey my sisters in eketahuna....... Went thru there last year on the grand challenge :woohoo: It is abit out of the way.

[ducatilover]

Hey my sisters in eketahuna....... Went thru there last year on the grand challenge :woohoo: It is abit out of the way.

:crybaby: It is rather isn't it

[Hiflyer]

yea and the fact that the place name sounds like a type of icecream ...... well... yea... :girlfight:

[mowgli]

Sorry if someone has already suggested this.

The kind of young guy you're targeting is probably tight on cash and for him this bike is probably his first. He may not know how easy it is to ship bikes around the country. So get a quote from (for example) biketranz for shipping to Auckland and include it in the advert. Also buy a copy of the VIR and if it doesn't sound dodgy make it available to interested buyers. Takes away a hassle and shows good will on your part. There are heaps of potential buyers up there and if you make it easy for them they might just bid.

If all else fails, sex sells.

[ducatilover]

yea and the fact that the place name sounds like a type of icecream ...... well... yea... :girlfight:
:wari::wari::wari:

Sorry if someone has already suggested this.

The kind of young guy you're targeting is probably tight on cash and for him this bike is probably his first. He may not know how easy it is to ship bikes around the country. So get a quote from (for example) biketranz for shipping to Auckland and include it in the advert. Also buy a copy of the VIR and if it doesn't sound dodgy make it available to interested buyers. Takes away a hassle and shows good will on your part. There are heaps of potential buyers up there and if you make it easy for them they might just bid.

If all else fails, sex sells.
I will look into that. Sex sells great....:innocent:

[FROSTY]

DL trust me dude--use the words I suggested and the interest will increase heaps.
If it helps -bikes are selling--I did 7 last month and 3 so far this months -with a couple more pretty sure to happen

[ducatilover]

DL trust me dude--use the words I suggested and the interest will increase heaps.
If it helps -bikes are selling--I did 7 last month and 3 so far this months -with a couple more pretty sure to happen

You really think it won't look retarded if I change the wording again?
Ah fook it, what's to loose.....:done:

[Insanity_rules]

Maybe you should do something like what that scary washing machine guy did and talk it into being ....... Scary motorcycle that takes you back in time or some such shit. Get a suitably inebriated friend, get blind ripped and bounce ideas around or get a Female friend to poze in a bikini on yer machine.

Couple of not so stupid ideas there for ya.

[ducatilover]

Maybe you should do something like what that scary washing machine guy did and talk it into being ....... Scary motorcycle that takes you back in time or some such shit. Get a suitably inebriated friend, get blind ripped and bounce ideas around or get a Female friend to poze in a bikini on yer machine.

Couple of not so stupid ideas there for ya.

I like the bikini idea. :love:

[FROSTY]

You really think it won't look retarded if I change the wording again?
Ah fook it, what's to loose.....:done:
YEP I really think the wording will help ya
REMINDER --I tel this to all sales staff---You only need to sell it ONCE.
number of hits -etc means nothing--what matters is that one buyer.

[ducatilover]

YEP I really think the wording will help ya
REMINDER --I tel this to all sales staff---You only need to sell it ONCE.
number of hits -etc means nothing--what matters is that one buyer.

Cheers frosty, I have updated the auction now :yes: I will try and get some pictures up again, but, the computer isn't recognizing the camera [I don't know why] so I will get that sorted, put pics of the rubber and riding gear up. :done:

[FROSTY]

Cheers frosty, I have updated the auction now :yes: I will try and get some pictures up again, but, the computer isn't recognizing the camera [I don't know why] so I will get that sorted, put pics of the rubber and riding gear up. :done:
dc--you need just ONE money shot--the main advert picture.
Of course the others are important too but that one shot is what sells the bike

[ducatilover]

dc--you need just ONE money shot--the main advert picture.
Of course the others are important too but that one shot is what sells the bike

I'm trying sir :yes:

[ducatilover]

Hmmm, I am sick of this stupid cloudy shitty weather

[Dare]

Hmmm, I am sick of this stupid cloudy shitty weather

Want some photoshop work done to flashen it up?

[crazyhorse]

:blank: why is it so hard to sell a bike these days, the last one I sold took 3 days to be gone! :( But, alas, the mighty spada is not selling. :Oi: Buy it, am getting a new bike:clap:

Yeah, its tough aye - I'm trying to sell my SV - same thing, its probably because its yellow (kidding), nah, its winter - wrong time to sell a bike, but hey, need to buy a house soon....

[ducatilover]

Want some photoshop work done to flashen it up?

If you can flashen up Eketahuna weather :shutup:

[ducatilover]

Yeah, its tough aye - I'm trying to sell my SV - same thing, its probably because its yellow (kidding), nah, its winter - wrong time to sell a bike, but hey, need to buy a house soon....

What ever you do, don't sell the bike for the house. Live on the bike.:love:

[Dare]

135665
Few tips from a pramature :Punk:
- Less junk in the background, unless you are selling powerpoles, a house and a couple of bikes :p basically the less, the better.
- Grass is ok but do you have anything better than a stip of carboard to rest it on?
- Low angle pics with lots of sky put the focus on the bike (helps if the bike is a clean though) but can look try hard
- Watch the reflections on the bike, or at least wear clothes (It happens!)
- Like has been said, one (or two) beauty shots followed by details like tyres, odo, damage etc.

[Boob Johnson]

Hmmm, I am sick of this stupid cloudy shitty weather
Had you thought about a better back drop for the photo's?

[ducatilover]

135665
Few tips from a pramature :Punk:
- Less junk in the background, unless you are selling powerpoles, a house and a couple of bikes :p basically the less, the better.
- Grass is ok but do you have anything better than a stip of carboard to rest it on?
- Low angle pics with lots of sky put the focus on the bike (helps if the bike is a clean though) but can look try hard
- Watch the reflections on the bike, or at least wear clothes (It happens!)
- Like has been said, one (or two) beauty shots followed by details like tyres, odo, damage etc.

It's a bit of wood :shutup: There is no damage, I shouldn't need to repeat this, it hasn't long been painted. That piccy looks rather pretty!

[ducatilover]

Had you thought about a better back drop for the photo's?

Yes, but I may as well wait for some sun.

[crazyhorse]

What ever you do, don't sell the bike for the house. Live on the bike.:love:

YEAH, but I have a GSXR too - and I'm happy living on that one at the moment - just abit uncomfortable in the rain and cold, the heater doesn't quite work that well either, and there is no-where to plug in the TV, toaster or kettle. LOL

[Dare]

It's a bit of wood :shutup: There is no damage, I shouldn't need to repeat this, it hasn't long been painted. That piccy looks rather pretty!

Sorry, I was speaking generally, lol.
Also the picture looks slightly out of focus but that is probably the camera.
Thanks :) I'm alot better when I'm behind a camera though!

[ducatilover]

Sorry, I was speaking generally, lol.
Also the picture looks slightly out of focus but that is probably the camera.
Thanks :) I'm alot better when I'm behind a camera though! I will pay you in beer and cake to take better pics for me :sunny: Yeah the camera isn't that brilliant


YEAH, but I have a GSXR too - and I'm happy living on that one at the moment - just abit uncomfortable in the rain and cold, the heater doesn't quite work that well either, and there is no-where to plug in the TV, toaster or kettle. LOL I think my windows on the spada don't wind up now :angry:

[1wheel riot]

the so called ecoenomic climate

[ducatilover]

the so called ecoenomic climate

Yeah, that has been mentioned. Currently I do have three deals to consider so I will decide which tickles my fanny most and go for it:whistle: