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Big Dave
21st July 2009, 10:21
Except we told you this 4 years ago.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10585679

jetboy
21st July 2009, 10:23
Love the guy in the 1st pic - is that a steak and cheese? haha

Mikkel
21st July 2009, 10:29
Love the guy in the 1st pic - is that a steak and cheese? haha

Don't worry - he's got a handle on the steering wheel... a love handle, methinks. :nono:

jetboy
21st July 2009, 10:32
I've seen chicks driving on the motorway applying makeup as they drive along...the whole shebang! Crazy.

boomer
21st July 2009, 10:49
Except we told you this 4 years ago.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10585679

i think most other non 3rd world countries have 'known' this for a bit longer than 4 years BD..... im sorry but you're not the pioneer you thought :soon:

KerrA
21st July 2009, 10:51
"Another driver was texting and crossed the centre line, killing a motorcyclist." If this ever happens to me, please someone shoot them.

Scouse
21st July 2009, 11:01
So how do they expect cagers to report things on *555

Big Dave
21st July 2009, 11:07
i think most other non 3rd world countries have 'known' this for a bit longer than 4 years BD..... im sorry but you're not the pioneer you thought :soon:

Sure - but BRONZ first wrote about the issue approx 4 years ago.

Ollie.T
21st July 2009, 11:16
So how do they expect cagers to report things on *555

Get a passenger to do it?

Blackshear
21st July 2009, 11:20
Should mobile phones be banned for car DRIVERS?

Yes, and I thought this was already something about to be passed or some shit.

Why? I know all of you, all_of_you have come across someone who almost came in contact with your motor vehicle and never even noticed, because they're too busy 'multi-tasking'.

Read, accept, fight the fucking cellphones.

How hard is it to not answer the phone, or pull over to save someones life?


EDIT: I forgot to add that link I was telling you to all read. (Or else)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080531084958.htm

MarkH
21st July 2009, 13:23
I noticed the article mentioned serious crash investigators - that was what was written on this car I saw on the motorway once, the driver of the car had a cell phone to his ear.

Drivers should at least have a hands free kit so they can keep their hands on the wheel and eyes on the road.

wetdog
21st July 2009, 13:37
It so horrifies me seeing drivers struggling around roundabouts holding a cell phone. The look on their faces is almost amusing sometimes when they realise they are multitasking and messing everything up at the same time.

The trouble is we are in a western society when everyone wants everything with no accountability. Just common sense should dicatate the danger to most people, shame common sense seems rarer sometimes.

jetboy
21st July 2009, 14:42
Get a passenger to do it?
To hijack the thread a tad (sorry), I remember that not so long ago there were billboards around that said "Put your foot down to slow him down" or something similar....now there's a sexist statement!

2c

Mystic13
21st July 2009, 14:43
Lets not stop at cellphones though lets ban anything that distracts you from driving, like reading a book (saw this lane splitting last year a lady reading a book propped on the steering wheel during the crawl with a coffee in hand), reading anything, eating, drinking, using a phone etc.

I was behind a guy in the weekend as he drifted across the road. It seemd he was looking down and left. I realised he was looking for a drink and not only found it but opened it and drank all at open road speeds. Down country, on a single lane road, there isn't much room for error.

This would seem the logical conclusion.

While they're at it can they also introduce a fine like they have in Aus. $150 if you don't move left on a multi lane road. Having to undertake someone because they're doing 80 in the outside lane is unsafe.

And lastly after coming back from Wellington in the weekend and getting pinged for doing 110 in a passing lane can we please do something about the motorist that sits at 80k's on a single lane then speeds up to 120 when there is a passing lane then drops back to 80 again. I was passing said dude when I got my $120 ticket. A TV campaign like, if you're taking it easy on the open road and there is a cue of cars builidng up behind you just hold your speed when you come to the passing lane so people can pass you easily would be a good start. This "let's go as fast as we can in the passing lane is a real pain in the ..." It also means unless someone is prepared to do 125k's then they can never pass you. This then contributes to people trying stupid passing moves.

It seemed like on the way back from Wellington that everytime I passed one of these people I came up on a cue with another one at the front of the pack. For me on a bike it's not so bad. But watching the lead car accelerate hard out at a passing lane each time was dissappointing. It seems they're sole purpose was to keep everyone behind them going slow. And to the cop that thinks picking cars and bikes off as they finally try and pass this person is fair game I think you're targeting the wrong people.

I've decided I'm going to argue this ticket. Mainly because I got a condesending lecture about having a problem with speeding and he made me wait a long time in the rain. My last ticket was October 07, 35 points because I thought I was doing 75 km's in a 70k zone when in fact I was in a 50k zone. So I'm now at 55 points. I think I have more of a problem with eyesight (how could I miss seeing him).

Jdogg
21st July 2009, 17:57
does this now mean that they will spend less time forking over tickets for doing (horror upon horror) 10k over? and actually ticketing the drivers who are hazards?

gwigs
21st July 2009, 18:31
does this now mean that they will spend less time forking over tickets for doing (horror upon horror) 10k over? and actually ticketing the drivers who are hazards?

:rofl::rofl::rofl:...what about the quotas?.....no, 10k over the limit is criminal and we must be punished......:spanking:

Big Dave
21st July 2009, 18:41
now now - this is a positive outcome. overdue, but positive.

As soon as they realise that all they need to do is put me and Sarge in charge, and it would all be sorted, the better.

McDuck
21st July 2009, 19:18
I will be honest here, i have been driving for 5 years and have done close on 200000kms in that time in small hatch backs, big SUVs, Vans and motorbikes. I have eaten, drank (not alcohol) Texted (not often but it dose happen) answered phones, placed calls and red maps while driving (not books tho).

And i have not come remotely close to a prang over it, i have selected the time and the place, i have chosen my road position, speed and distance to other road users. So as a result i have been ralitivly safe.


Before you shoot me i am acknowledging what i have done not what i do now and not what i recommend doing.

Big Dave
21st July 2009, 20:24
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/truck-driver-had-shower-from-sprinkler-as-he-drove-with-wife-holding-curtain-to-protect-instruments/story-e6frev20-1225750574106

Mystic13
22nd July 2009, 11:49
Okay, BD that's just weird. Although the wife seems pretty flexible.

There have also been a stack of stories of drivers crashing while doing the self pleasure thing. I remember the story from a year ago where the driver crashed into a school bus and knocked himself unconscious. The first people on the seen found him with his pants down and a sex toy fitted.

Driving a huge hunk of metal you really need to pay attention to the road. Those things can do a lot of damage. The recognition of the responsibility for controlling the hunk of metal seems to be missing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/7771299.stm

The Pastor
22nd July 2009, 11:59
Shower while driving isnt anything flash, i get that half the time i ride in winter!

MarkH
22nd July 2009, 13:51
Driving a huge hunk of metal you really need to pay attention to the road. Those things can do a lot of damage. The recognition of the responsibility for controlling the hunk of metal seems to be missing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/7771299.stm

8 years in prison - doesn't seem unduly harsh to me. Hopefully some others may think about being a bit more responsible when hurtling along the road at 120mph in a tonne & a half of steel & glass.

cs363
22nd July 2009, 19:35
Whilst I don't disagree about texting whilst driving being dangerous, I do wonder where all this will end. There was something on TV about all this yesterday and someone was suggesting that even talking on hands free was a dangerous distraction, now extending that logically it would mean that ultimately anything that could cause a distraction whilst driving should be banned. This would include stereos, eating, drinking, GPS devices, heaters and A/C controls,CB radios and other communication devices (so that's all the emergency services ruled out, and the vast majority of trucks) then there's traffic cops operating radars with instant-on and of course the ultimate distraction - passengers.... :whistle:

McDuck
23rd July 2009, 06:39
Whilst I don't disagree about texting whilst driving being dangerous, I do wonder where all this will end. There was something on TV about all this yesterday and someone was suggesting that even talking on hands free was a dangerous distraction, now extending that logically it would mean that ultimately anything that could cause a distraction whilst driving should be banned. This would include stereos, eating, drinking, GPS devices, heaters and A/C controls,CB radios and other communication devices (so that's all the emergency services ruled out, and the vast majority of trucks) then there's traffic cops operating radars with instant-on and of course the ultimate distraction - passengers.... :whistle:

Yes. The problem with the cell phone is the distraction to the brain not the loss of one hand.

jono035
23rd July 2009, 07:07
Yes. The problem with the cell phone is the distraction to the brain not the loss of one hand.

Yeah, this is as I understood it as well. The main issue was the simple fact that you were talking to someone on the cellphone, not the fact that you're holding it to your ear.

The argument then runs into whether you get the same levels of distraction talking to a passenger in the car.

I think a lot of it comes down to people who drive subconsciously. They follow the road and keep in the correct gear/speed range entirely without being conscious of doing it and paying not much attention to it. As soon as these people are distracted by anything (be it a cellphone, a pie or whatever) what little attention they were paying is gone completely.

Just a thought really.

ajturbo
23rd July 2009, 07:17
you mean it's NOT speeding???????

that means they need to change the cameras to take photo's of everyone to see if they are talking....

Owl
23rd July 2009, 07:29
Hope they ban McDonalds too!:laugh:

The moron that crossed the center line and hit me head on was bending down to pick up his milkshake:angry2:. Fucking glad I had a car wrapped around me for that one.:yes:

ready4whatever
23rd July 2009, 13:49
sad thing is its bikers who end up getting killed. how many bikers do you see talking on phones while riding

Big Dave
23rd July 2009, 13:52
how many bikers do you see talking on phones while riding

I think there would be a few - blue tooth and all. There are plenty with intercoms.

At least they still have their limbs and eyes on the job.

SARGE
24th July 2009, 00:01
As soon as they realise that all they need to do is put me and Sarge in charge, and it would all be sorted, the better.

i've said this for years ...