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Genestho

23rd July 2009, 10:40

Hey Dudes

There's been a suggestion that scooterists be represented at our meetings, at some level, whether it's a resource focus or at some meetings, or at ALL.

Concerning the lowering rider error incidents (of 34 Motorcycling fatalities last year - only 4 weren't rider error) which address ideas and concepts, regarding training, skills, publications, stats and safety gear issues.

The meetings in BOP involve Motorcyclists in our community, ACC, NZ Police, Rider Training.

Here's what I replied:

I don't see why the scooter community couldn't be represented, Infact I really think they should.

My thoughts are that I'm not sure if they need to fit into the wider Motorcycling focus, because of the power and speed difference.

But then an understanding of how scooters affect general motorcycling stats, skill, training, and safety gear fit's into the wider group of Motorcycling.

Also I think a youth focus couldn't hurt, fresh ideas and viewpoints. Listening to youths can sometimes turn up wee gems.

I guess a good level headed scooterist, perhaps a youth (from a youth angle) and an adult?

What's your thoughts guys?
And it would be good to hear from scooterists too!

cheshirecat

23rd July 2009, 18:37

Much rather include than exclude. I see plenty of scooter riders. Some are still at school, some are very uncomfortable on their machines. I almost feel like pulling them over to help them out if the traffic permitted.

My $0.02 - go for it.

Genestho

23rd July 2009, 18:53

Thanks Hun! All 2 cents greatly appreciated!!!

That's what I figure too, sounds like there's an agreeance from the NZ Police Rep, I think ACC are willing to try anything, which is good!:yes:

98tls

23rd July 2009, 18:59

Scooters are more than relevant,with gas prices etc it seems there everyhere.And lets not forget 2 wheels is 2 wheels.

Genestho

23rd July 2009, 19:11

Cheers Mate!

caseye

23rd July 2009, 19:38

Scooters represent a growing percentage of motorcycle ownership here in NZ so for them to be represented must be a good thing.I still won't wave to em though, specially not with the KB secret wave!

Squiggles

23rd July 2009, 19:39

They should be represented... they are a target group afterall. (Just yesterday ACC had a stand out @ uni for them). Finding people who will represent them however...

Reaching the scooter population is a difficult one. They dont associate themselves with motorcyclists, how we ride, the gear we wear etc

Genestho

23rd July 2009, 19:52

Ahhhh ok! Thanks, that's interesting. Is there a scooter crowd on KB do you know?

mattian

23rd July 2009, 19:58

Ahhhh ok! Thanks, that's interesting. Is there a scooter crowd on KB do you know?

umm.... yes. Its under the Forum entitled "Scooters"

Genestho

23rd July 2009, 20:01

LOL! Thanks, I know I just found it, I never go there :bleh:

mattian

23rd July 2009, 20:04

hehe...
I hope that scooter riders safety gear.... or, "lack of" comes up on the agenda. I am just flabbergasted at the amount of scooter riders that think a skirt, bare legs and a half faced helmet is adequate.

Genestho

23rd July 2009, 20:11

crash harry

23rd July 2009, 20:19

Could be a bit of a challenge, I don't think scooterers identify themselves as a community as much as bikers do, so it might be a bit of a task to find someone who speaks for their needs as a group. Potentially a biker who also scoots or who has a family member that does or something?

Genestho

23rd July 2009, 20:25

Yea mate, it does sound like it'll be a challenge, I guess all we can do is put it out there, if they're not represented, what can we do?

scootnz

23rd July 2009, 20:27

I publish a scooter magazine, and can reach a great many scooterists on several forums.

Talk to me.

Genestho

23rd July 2009, 20:33

oo sweet! I'll pm you eh?

Pedrostt500

23rd July 2009, 20:50

Genestho

23rd July 2009, 20:53

I would like to hear of better data colection particurly about off road motorcycle accidents covering the weekend warriors and the farming comunity, I would seperate out quad / atv accidents.
Yes by all means include Scooter riders.

Yep hopefully we can get that data split up, and defined, just out of personal interest I'd like to learn and know more about the data collection too!

Genestho

23rd July 2009, 21:28

Oh well, we should have scooterists represented!
I have put ACC and Scootnz in touch! Thanks to the fantastic network of KB!
Goodluck Jess!

grbaker

1st September 2009, 13:35

Seen lots of people on really small scooters that look to undersized for the rider. Since I generally rate scooters as dangerous I can't really judge tho.

I have notice that many scoot rider wear only the compulsary helmet (altough the high heels and dress fluying around the place has its own charms :gob:) and it makes me wonder how many 50cc scooter riders have done under motorcycle education.

Not only do I think they should be included in the bike education, but that 50cc car license to ride a scooter law should go.

PrincessBandit

1st September 2009, 17:28

.... makes me wonder how many 50cc scooter riders have done under motorcycle education.

Not only do I think they should be included in the bike education, but that 50cc car license to ride a scooter law should go.

Probably done none at all. The whole appeal usually of 50cc scoots is that you don't need a bike license. You can be the claytons bikie on one.

Oh, I did see on trade me recently a 50cc geared bike which had as one of it's advertising lines "can be ridden on a car license".

UberRhys

1st September 2009, 17:33

Oh well, we should have scooterists represented!
I have put ACC and Scootnz in touch! Thanks to the fantastic network of KB!
Goodluck Jess!

I might be able to inject a few cents worth into the scooter community - send me some details... Only to glad to help out... :scooter:

Genestho

1st September 2009, 20:07

I might be able to inject a few cents worth into the scooter community - send me some details... Only to glad to help out... :scooter:

Hey Mate
Thankyou for your interest! :)

From what was mentioned at our latest meeting last week, we should be fine at this point, I believe we have a couple of scooter representatives for our area.

As our group is the pilot in this and a few other proposed intiatives, there may or may not be a chance in your area - perhaps coming up, I can't speak for other regions, so I'm sorry - I can't make any promises!

If I hear of anything, I'll let you know :)
Thanks again!!:sunny: