Some useful info about carless driving charge.

[z99]

HI everyone for those who dont know my story...I just got DIVERSION from my carless driving charge, at first the duty lawyer said I wont get a DIVERSION for a traffic charge however I was told by a legal aid that I was able to apply for one. I past this info onto the duty lawyer and was given a diversion.
As I didn't hurt anyone and was the first time I was charged (no record) so was able to apply for diversion.
Hopefully this can help you PPl here.
Thank you everyone else for your help.

[Steam]

I'm the spelling and grammar police and I'm giving you a ticket for carless use of the English language. Naughty carless!

[BiK3RChiK]

You can only use Diversion once, so, if you are a bit naughty and think you can get away with stuff on a never-ending basis, be warned!

(not pointing the finger at you z99) Just a heads up for those who don't know.

[idb]

Jeez...they're getting tough when they can prosecute you for not actually having a vehicle!

[Hitcher]

Carless driving would definitely have a positive effect on the road toll.

Is there an equivalent charge for motorcyclists, or can we get busted for carless driving every time we go out for a pootle?

[peasea]

Carless driving would definitely have a positive effect on the road toll.

Is there an equivalent charge for motorcyclists, or can we get busted for carless driving every time we go out for a pootle?

That would be my guess; Carless use of a motorcycle.:bleh:

[rie]

out of curiosity, what were you doing to get a careless driving charge?

[Madness]

Is there an equivalent charge for motorcyclists, or can we get busted for carless driving every time we go out for a pootle?

No. That falls under Dangerous Driving, apparently.

[steve_t]

I'm the spelling and grammar police and I'm giving you a ticket for carless use of the English language. Naughty carless!

Haha.... done for driving without a car :laugh:

[hayd3n]

so was the ticket for driving without a car???

[The Stranger]

out of curiosity, what were you doing to get a careless driving charge?

There's a few here could give you some ideas to try if you like.
Say pulling out of a stop sign and taking out a Police car, or overtaking a little old lady. Either one can be considered careless apparently.

[Mom]

There's a few here could give you some ideas to try if you like.
Say pulling out of a stop sign and taking out a Police car, or overtaking a little old lady. Either one can be considered careless apparently.

Over taking little old ladies, specially on bridges is possibly the most dangerous thing you can do, or so I have heard :yes:

[YellowDog]

Diversion is fine however you will eventually have to face the music.

Good luck.

[z99]

out of curiosity, what were you doing to get a careless driving charge?
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=99035&page=2

[Felicks]

Careless use - hardly worth using up your one chance at getting Diversion on that sort of offence. Unless the 'offender' wants to maintain an absolutely spotless record, I'd suggest Diversion be put in the bank as it were, and saved for a 'criminal' matter should it ever happen in the future.

I argue that if someone is concerned about say a prospective employer checking their conviction history, most would not be concerned with a careless use conviction. They would likely be more concerned about a conviction for dishonesty, violence, drugs etc. Some ask for traffic offences to be disclosed, some don't.

Note that Diversion isn't generally an option with more serious driving matters as they tend to attract mandatory Disqualification and thats not something a Diversion officer can legally enforce, even as part of the contract that is normally signed between the defendant and the Police for normal Diversion.

Also, Careless Use is sometimes the only charge left to chose from for incidents that aren't covered by an instant fine - eg a minor crash caused by merging for instance. Which is stupid quite frankly as it can mean a person ends up being summonsed to court rather than issued with a plain old ticket, but I digress.

I say use your Diversion, wisely...!

[SMOKEU]

Carless driving would definitely have a positive effect on the road toll.

Is there an equivalent charge for motorcyclists, or can we get busted for carless driving every time we go out for a pootle?

Yes, it's called bikeless riding.

[Pixie]

Jeez...they're getting tough when they can prosecute you for not actually having a vehicle!

He's obviously driving a truck stupid:stupid:

[James Deuce]

I make a point of never driving without my car OR my truck.

[NZ_Blair]

The policy around diversion was recently updated. Diversion can infact be used more than once, ask certain members of the All Blacks. Lots of factors need to be considered.

Start by being nice to the cop that deals with you. They have alot of sway.
Seriousness of the offence. Dont expect diversion for your first homicide.
Previous Criminal and Traffic History - This doesnt exclude you getting diversion. An example is a 45yo could get diversion, despite having minor convictions for offending when they 20.
More than one diversion is possible. Again, there would normally need to be a decent amount of time (years) between instances of prosecution for a second diversion to be considered.

Always worth a try. Discuss the diversion option with your lawyer or with the police prosecutor.

[James Deuce]

I'm not wasting diversion on getting busted for driving without my car.

[Ixion]

Well, you should. It ought to be a serious charge

The consequences of driving at 100kph without your car/truck/motorised pogo stick could be serious indeed . (Actually the driving is probably OK. But how do you intend to stop without any brakes?)

[dynamite]

ops didnt understand the post lol