What's wrong & what's right with NZ?

[Molly]

We all come on here and gripe from time to time (got to vent somewhere) so how about we balance something that's wrong with NZ with something that's right?

Wrong: Children having access to powerful cars and spray paint (OK, that's two things but they f'k' me off).

Right: Getting your bike out on those empty roads and out into the hills and scenery, and just the sense that you can do your own thing without too much governmental interference in every f'kin' facet of your life (can you tell I came here from the UK?).

[SMOKEU]

Wrong: Doing a burnout is a more serious offence (usually) than assaulting someone or stealing, and that pot is illegal.

Right: You tell me mate.

[jrandom]

Wrong: Too many fuckin pommy immigrants.

[325rocket]

Right: You tell me mate.

just about everything. this is a fuckin great place to live.

[Elysium]

-No Air Force to speak of
-Too politicaly correct
-Sport teams are soft, aka All Blacks
-Kids are turning feral and violent
-Too many annoying protest groups
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Too many to list

[Maha]

just about everything. this is a fuckin great place to live.

I agree, if you bitch and moan about everything and anything, your very sad life will eventually eat you up.

[Molly]

Wrong: Too many fuckin pommy immigrants.

My missus is a pommy cardiac nurse. You wouldn't be complaining about that that immigrant if she was saving your life. I'm just an IT teacher so you can take or leave me. I couldn't give a shit.

[jrandom]

My missus is a pommy cardiac nurse. You wouldn't be complaining about that that immigrant if she was saving your life. I'm just an IT teacher so you can take or leave me. I couldn't give a shit.

Aww, c'mere.

:hug:

It's OK. Irony, head, whoosh, etc.

[merv]

Right: I find it a fantastic place for all the right reasons, except:

Wrong: the fricken windy weather in Wellington.

[LBD]

Wrong...Imigration policies and racism

Right...Its NZ

[Swoop]

There are so many good things about NZ, it is truly surprising.

The things that are wrong could be fixed with the right approach from the authorities and a unified approach from the populace.
Chances of that happening...

[Grahameeboy]

Wrong: Too many fuckin pommy immigrants.

Yeah too true...they improve the road safety and we cannot have that:nono:

[Grahameeboy]

My missus is a pommy cardiac nurse. You wouldn't be complaining about that that immigrant if she was saving your life. I'm just an IT teacher so you can take or leave me. I couldn't give a shit.

He cannot help it...it's his German heritage...

[Grahameeboy]

There are so many good things about NZ, it is truly surprising.

The things that are wrong could be fixed with the right approach from the authorities and a unified approach from the populace.
Chances of that happening...

The little that is wrong is not worth not wasting the energy and not enjoying the good

[YellowDog]

WRONG: Most have not been elsewhere to allow them to appreciate what they actually have.

[Molly]

The little that is wrong is not worth not wasting the energy and not enjoying the good

Makes sense. You get so tied into your day to day life: work, home, work, home you can forget where you are. A few hours riding your favourite bike on your favourite road and all's well with the world.

[Grahameeboy]

Makes sense. You get so tied into your day to day life: work, home, work, home you can forget where you are. A few hours riding your favourite bike on your favourite road and all's well with the world.

Life was never meant to be perfect...we need to learn to accept that and enjoy life.....

[jrandom]

Yeah too true...they improve the road safety and we cannot have that:nono:

If God didn't intend us to run down little old ladies, he wouldn't have invented bicycles and pedestrian crossings.

Why, I continue to wonder, is there no road user more obnoxiously self-righteous than a motorcyclist observing a bicyclist breaking a rule?

[Grahameeboy]

If God didn't intend us to run down little old ladies, he wouldn't have invented bicycles and pedestrian crossings.

How mamy old ladys actually ride bikes or for that matter use pedestrian crossings....

[Genestho]

Right. Kiwi's. Our brand is our own. We are awesome people, we are unique, hardcases.:clap:

Wrong. A whole lot, but for every problem there is a solution!!:niceone:

[jrandom]

How mamy old ladys actually ride bikes or for that matter use pedestrian crossings....

How many self-righteous cockneys ride red Suzukis around Devonport yelling at cyclists who transgress the road code?

I know!

One.

:D

[Grahameeboy]

How many self-righteous cockneys ride red Suzukis around Devonport yelling at cyclists who transgress the road code?

I know!

One.

:D

Glad to admit it...there were pedestrians crossing and you ignored them and rode through the crossing...up the inside of the stopped cars and then swung across to turn right.....in a self righteous way I guess...:bleh:

[jrandom]

Glad to admit it...there were pedestrians crossing and you ignored them and rode through the crossing...up the inside of the stopped cars and then swung across to turn right...

Well. One can only hope that you never catch sight of my on-road antics during business hours in the CBD.

:shutup:

[Finn]

I agree, if you bitch and moan about everything and anything, your very sad life will eventually eat you up.

Well it did. That's why I'm a little shit now.

[Grahameeboy]

Well. One can only hope that you never catch sight of my on-road antics during business hours in the CBD.

:shutup:

I just hope you don't either hurt or kill yourself or someone else....but good that you are proud of it.

[Grahameeboy]

Well it did. That's why I'm a little shit now.

We can agree for once then:msn-wink:

[Finn]

We can agree for once then:msn-wink:

Get off me blowfly!

[Grahameeboy]

Get off me blowfly!

Why am I squashing you then.....

[jrandom]

I just hope you don't either hurt or kill yourself or someone else....but good that you are proud of it.

I'm proud of not hurting anyone. While still getting there fookin fast, au.

[Grahameeboy]

I'm proud of not hurting anyone. While still getting there fookin fast, au.

Now what was that word...rrrrrrrr........

[elevenhundred]

-Sport teams are soft, aka All Blacks
-Kids are turning feral and violent


I think parents should be disciplining the All Blacks with a smack and we'll put the kids out on the field against the Wallabies. Sorted!
Graham Henry and John Key you can have your jobs back now :)

[puddytat]

Right: That theres only 4 million of us....
Wrong: That we treat the place like shit....

[SARGE]

im starving to death

[MisterD]

Wrong: Too many fuckin pommy immigrants.

Oi! I resemble that remark!

[NDORFN]

Right: That theres only 4 million of us....
Wrong: That we treat the place like shit....

I'm just gonna second this one :niceone:

[Naki Rat]

Wrong: Orkland :crazy:
Right: The rest :niceone:

:jerry:

[mstriumph]

Wrong: Too many fuckin pommy immigrants.

the quality of your baiting is sadly declining, dear sir ................

[MIXONE]

Wrong.Too farkin PC.
Right.Heaps (except for the ABs at the moment)

[mstriumph]

I think parents should be disciplining the All Blacks with a smack ......... :) - thought the South Africans had just done that :blank:

[Brian d marge]

Right , Royal Enfields

Wrong , Everything else

Stephen

yes I am bigoted,,,

[peasea]

Wrong: Orkland :crazy:
Right: The rest :niceone:

:jerry:

Couldn't agree more, four million people but 25% of them (or more) are Aucklanders.

Now that's just WRONG!

Nearly three mil got it right tho' so 70-odd percent of NZ is ok; that'll do.

[Fatt Max]

Wrong: Too many fuckin pommy immigrants.

Ah c'mon now big boy, we're lovely really......

[Ixion]

You. And me.

[rainman]

WRONG: Most have not been elsewhere to allow them to appreciate what they actually have.

What he said.

[SMOKEU]

WRONG: Most have not been elsewhere to allow them to appreciate what they actually have.

I'm a white South African; I've seen enough bad shit to last a lifetime.

[gatch]

Right - beaches are accessable from nearly anywhere in the country in 2 hours.

Wrong - nothing that couldn't be fixed easily if we weren't rapidly evolving into a bunch of super pc softcocks. (or I became king of NZ)

[Jonno.]

Political correctness , the court system, sky tv in prison, acc pays for anyone even drunk drivers, we are charged acc per vehical, the warriors, schools, the lack of in parenting, stranger danger, dole bludgers, homeless people on queen street, the green party and green peace. The good things, everything else.

[Elysium]

the green party and green peace. The good things, everything else.

Add Maori and Act party to that.

[Kiwi Graham]

My wife..........

Always right

Never wrong

[mowgli]

Right: Not part of Australia.
Wrong: Too close to Australia.

[Elysium]

Right: Not part of Australia.
Wrong: Too close to Australia.

We rely on Australia for a lot these days, are you sure?

[mowgli]

We rely on Australia for a lot these days, are you sure?

Ahh, good point, well raised.

Right: Not part of Australia.
Wrong: Too close to Australia and becoming too reliant on Australia.

Thanks for pointing that out :)

[jim.cox]

wrong: bureaucratic nanny state and getting more so

right: empty South Island roads :)

[fire eyes]

Right: Not part of Australia.
Wrong: Too close to Australia.

lol ...

Right: NZ is by far a stunning and beautiful country

Wrong: ummmm

[ready4whatever]

Wrong: we will get taken over my asian immigrants if we dont do something soon. you need to be killed before your allowed to self defend

Right: we all have the right to vote. more km's per person

[alanzs]

Right: Beautiful country, generally friendly people, slower pace of life
Wrong: Too soft on crime (Keep NZ safe!), too negative on TV, media, etc.(Lighten up, the world isn't ending soon).
THIS IS A FANTASTIC PLACE TO LIVE! I AM HONOURED TO BE A NEW ZEALANDER! THANK YOU ALL... :clap:

[martybabe]

Right: The sun, the sea, the sky,the people. facking marvellous :D Birds that sound like mobile phones or squeaky wheels, palm trees in the snow, xmas in the sun, that girl that lives down my road.

Wrong: Making people take their shoes off to enter your house, the state of the roads, thinking football is played with an egg shaped ball, tailgaters, waiting for hot chips to be cooked, not wearing shoes, wages, that Briscoe's woman, them sand flies down south, too many Poms..oh wait, I is one of them innit.

[Street Gerbil]

Right: bikes, boats, fishing, Hauraki Gulf, heaps of nice dudes and dudettes.
Wrong: Rainy weather in Auckland, NZHerald, progressives/liberals/[insert idiotic protest group here], police being a bunch of helpless pussies, self defense laws worthy of soviet russia (equally light on "socially close" criminals, equally tough on victims), crappy/dangerous roads.

In short, finding a dream job in the middle of economic recession keeps me reasonably satisfied with my life so the list of rants is short for the moment.

[merv]

Well it did. That's why I'm a little shit now.

Your boy is in power in Government now so are you growing into a big shit yet?

[Skyryder]

There are so many good things about NZ, it is truly surprising.

Yep then I turn on the news at six and it all turns to custard.

Skyryder

[Maki]

What is wrong with NZ is unfairness.

People who are in a relationship are taxed individually on income but when it comes to benefits they are regarded as a unit. People are punished for being in a relationship and would be better off splitting up with one of the partners renting from the other.

If you lose your job you will NOT recieve any unemployment benefit while you have money in the bank.
That means that people who have payed their taxes for decades, lived a frugal lifestyle and saved money are punished, while people who have thrown money away on drugs, alcohol and gambling and therefore do not have a cent to their name get rewarded and recieve full benefits. How ludicrous is that?

[alanzs]

What is wrong with NZ is unfairness.

People who are in a relationship are taxed individually on income but when it comes to benefits they are regarded as a unit. People are punished for being in a relationship and would be better off splitting up with one of the partners renting from the other.

If you lose your job you will NOT recieve any unemployment benefit while you have money in the bank.
That means that people who have payed their taxes for decades, lived a frugal lifestyle and saved money are punished, while people who have thrown money away on drugs, alcohol and gambling and therefore do not have a cent to their name get rewarded and recieve full benefits. How ludicrous is that?

It is amazingly stupid! There needs to be a system that every worker, government and employer contributes to. When you get unemployed, you can get YOUR benefit, because you paid into it, your employer did as well as the government. This current system is totaly unfair and, frankly, unjust!

[Finn]

Right: NZ is such a lovely country.
Wrong: NZ is such a lovely country.

[SPman]

-Sport teams are soft, aka All Blacks
-Kids are turning feral and violent

Well, there you go then - get the kids playing sport.......

wrong - too many whinging Kiwis.......

[popelli]

It is amazingly stupid! There needs to be a system that every worker, government and employer contributes to. When you get unemployed, you can get YOUR benefit, because you paid into it, your employer did as well as the government. This current system is totaly unfair and, frankly, unjust!

thats what they have in the uk, sounds great except the payout is absurdly low unless you have 17 children

and after 6 months it stops and becomes means tested and takes your partners income and savings into consideration

the system in nz also allows payment to cover mortgage outgoings, the system in the uk does not they expect you to sell your house and live off the proceeds before they will pay out the dole once the 6 months copntribution based allowance ceases

no system is fair but the system in nz is better than in many other places

[Genestho]

Well, there you go then - get the kids playing sport.......

..
Agreed, what's the old saying... "In sport, and outta court"

[jonbuoy]

Good: Easy lifestyle, not much in the way of red tape to get things done, beautifull scenery, great roads, new empty country, great people, no class system.

Bad: 24 hour flights, a thankfully small minority of narrow minded self superior slack jawed hillbillies, gangs who are more powerfull than the police, isolated.

[Paul in NZ]

the best thing about NZ is you can post shit about whats wrong with it and 5 mins later the thought police aint smashing your door down.... Oh - and nearly no one shoots at me on the way to work - pretty cool..

[marty]

If God didn't intend us to run down little old ladies, he wouldn't have invented bicycles and pedestrian crossings.

Why, I continue to wonder, is there no road user more obnoxiously self-righteous than a motorcyclist observing a bicyclist breaking a rule?

Mate - in 3 weeks I'm spending a week in central Auckland - staying at Crown Plaza. Locking the car in the carpark and ripping up central Auck on the Aggressor :) Shit I'm gonna have fun....I'm gonna hunt out scooters and draft em :)

Or cut them off....

[peasea]

Well, there you go then - get the kids playing sport..............

I thought going feral and turning violet WAS playing sport.

[peasea]

Agreed, what's the old saying... "In sport, and outta court"

That's a dumb-arse mantra if ever I heard one. An interest, yes. What's wrong with taking your kids fishing? Building kitset aeroplanes or boats? You can have a shitload of fun and soak up heaps of hours together with a modern r/c toy and if you bust it up you can spend more hours fixing it with your kids in the shed. Remember slot cars? Bloody great fun, for hours too!

Too much (waaaay too much) emphasis is placed on sport in NZ, the world doesn't revolve around sport regardless of what the ball-chuckers might have you believe. No wonder there's no fucking tradesmen in the world, youngsters don't get the chance to build stuff, make stuff, fix stuff or fiddle with Meccano any more, sport is so much more important. NOT!

[jrandom]

Mate - in 3 weeks I'm spending a week in central Auckland - staying at Crown Plaza. Locking the car in the carpark and ripping up central Auck on the Aggressor :) Shit I'm gonna have fun....I'm gonna hunt out scooters and draft em :)

You'll undoubtedly see me around town bicycle-couriering it up, then. Remember to wave!

:sunny:

[Genestho]

That's a dumb-arse mantra if ever I heard one. An interest, yes. What's wrong with taking your kids fishing? Building kitset aeroplanes or boats? You can have a shitload of fun and soak up heaps of hours together with a modern r/c toy and if you bust it up you can spend more hours fixing it with your kids in the shed. Remember slot cars? Bloody great fun, for hours too!

Too much (waaaay too much) emphasis is placed on sport in NZ, the world doesn't revolve around sport regardless of what the ball-chuckers might have you believe. No wonder there's no fucking tradesmen in the world, youngsters don't get the chance to build stuff, make stuff, fix stuff or fiddle with Meccano any more, sport is so much more important. NOT!

Well said!:yes:
Sorry, that saying was the thing that sprung to mind at that point!!!
I agree with your post!!! 100%
We used to make quite eleborate huts and go carts as kids, fishing!

I have a lawn mower for my lads to pull apart (and maybe one day put back together!!), and they have their own tool boxes!
Agree with the Tradesmen theory too!

[Winston001]

That's a dumb-arse mantra if ever I heard one. An interest, yes. What's wrong with taking your kids fishing? Building kitset aeroplanes or boats? You can have a shitload of fun and soak up heaps of hours together with a modern r/c toy and if you bust it up you can spend more hours fixing it with your kids in the shed. Remember slot cars? Bloody great fun, for hours too!

Too much (waaaay too much) emphasis is placed on sport in NZ, the world doesn't revolve around sport regardless of what the ball-chuckers might have you believe. No wonder there's no fucking tradesmen in the world, youngsters don't get the chance to build stuff, make stuff, fix stuff or fiddle with Meccano any more, sport is so much more important. NOT!

Great post! :Punk: We do tend to forget that physical and mental activity is far wider than sport. Not all kids are good at sport and in fact are put off because their efforts can be so disappointing.

Doing stuff with your kids is fun and rewarding. There are a heck of a lot of life skills they will only get from mum and dad.

[Voltaire]

right: Twisties ( Aussies Twisties are rubbish).
wrong: Tomato Sauce flavour chips.

Apparently Australia saved us from the worst of the recession.....

So here goes.....

Go the Wall .....go the Walla... go the Wallab......no can't do it.

[svr]

[QUOTE=jonbuoy;1129343893]Good: Easy lifestyle, not much in the way of red tape to get things done, beautifull scenery, great roads, new empty country, great people, no class system.

Roger that, lifestyle-wise. This place has potential, but.... culturally we are a bit conservative, staunch, uninteresting and intellectually backward huh? Also, we really need to stop wearing ugh boots and polar-fleece trackie pants to town asap.

[Voltaire]

Agreed, what's the old saying... "In sport, and outta court"

Yeah, Marc Ellis, Hugh McGahan, Brent Todd and some former All Blacks...what he said.

[scracha]

the system in nz also allows payment to cover mortgage outgoings, the system in the uk does not they expect you to sell your house and live off the proceeds before they will pay out the dole once the 6 months copntribution based allowance ceases

You're talking shite. If you've been out of work for 13 weeks, the UK dole pays the interest on your mortgage for up to 2 years.

Right: Low cost of living. Anyone from any background can succeed.
Wrong: 67% of Australia's GDP per capita. Tall poppy syndrome when fellow countrymen actually do succeed.

[peasea]

Yeah, Marc Ellis, Hugh McGahan, Brent Todd and some former All Blacks...what he said.

Don't forget the wife bashers!

[Anakist]

[Roger that, lifestyle-wise. This place has potential, but.... culturally we are a bit conservative, staunch, uninteresting and intellectually backward huh? Also, we really need to stop wearing ugh boots and polar-fleece trackie pants to town asap.

It is a lot better than across the ditch. We are far far too Americanised, graffiti everywhere, and the climate is better there (for me at least). Much better social justice over there, the maoris are doing an amazing job of keeping there culture alive while integrating into society.

Bad: No good jobs for me and my fiancee there yet, economy is not going as well as Aus.

James

[Swoop]

[QUOTE=jonbuoy;1129343893]Good: not much in the way of red tape to get things done,

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::r ofl::rofl:(I think I weeeeed a little)

Oh how I LOLed.


Someone has not attempted to cut a tree they own, which is on their own property. Not even going to mention build something.

[buellbabe]

Right: its New Zealand, its unique and it ain't called Godzone for nothing. If you have travelled overseas and seen the filth and poverty (and thats not just in '3rd world' nations) then you can really appreciate how good we've got it.

Wrong:bitching and moaning. C'mon people! Lighten up, sure we have our problems but its still a bloody fantastic place to live!

Note to self: try not to bitch and moan when the bike rego is due...(well if thats all I have to bitch and moan about then life ain't too bad!).

[Jonno.]

It is a lot better than across the ditch. We are far far too Americanised, graffiti everywhere, and the climate is better there (for me at least). Much better social justice over there, the maoris are doing an amazing job of keeping there culture alive while integrating into society.
James

:laugh::laugh:

[jonbuoy]

[QUOTE=svr;1129344768]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::r ofl::rofl:(I think I weeeeed a little)

Oh how I LOLed.


Someone has not attempted to cut a tree they own, which is on their own property. Not even going to mention build something.

Yeah but still not as bad as Europe for paperwork.

[1wheel riot]

right they take drunk drivers off the road
wrong they give you a tecket for doing a mean wheely(every one ales thort it was grate)