1993 ZXR250C - Cheap [Archive]

skidMark

18th August 2009, 17:43

BIKE IS NOW SOLD

My 1993 zxr250C is up for sale, i'm nt going to let it go silly cheap, the only reason its up for sale is because i have run out of money to revin it and it is just gathering dust. well the second reason being bikes are not something i need in my life right now and my money is required elsewhere so it is best if it isn't there. but enough about that mre about ze bike!

It was written off by an insurance company because the front and left fairing were stuffed... these have been professionally repainted, personally i woud ad a couple of decals. cam chain has already been done along with tensioner etc etc

the swingarm has minor damage and will include a replacement swingarm with the sale of the bike...

genuine k's i have purchase invoice etc that you will need to get it revinned.

it may need new front discs they are right on 3.5mm which is the minimum thickness stamped on them...

a new set is $700 for both front discs quoted by mt eden mc's.

No time wasters. You can test ride it but it has no number plate so the onus is on you if you get pulled up.

obviously i will have to sight license and proof of funds prior to test riding.

bike also has a brand new tint screen.

PM me or call 021 250 76 71

Pictures here...

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=134612&d=1247551460

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=134303&d=1247203586

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=134269&d=1247177011

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=134302&d=1247203586

$3000 ono

Mark.

skidMark

18th August 2009, 21:14

I MAY consider a swap for another bike ie fxr150, gn250 or similar with cash my way... or as random as it is a 3sge or 3sgte motor with ecu engine loom etc and cash my way

Metalor

18th August 2009, 21:22

Hmmm... mate of mine MAY been in a couple weeks time if it hasn't sold. Sitting his basic handling and skills test this Wed, would be a good bike for him to learn on.

skidMark

18th August 2009, 21:30

Hmmm... mate of mine MAY been in a couple weeks time if it hasn't sold. Sitting his basic handling and skills test this Wed, would be a good bike for him to learn on.

Sweet as , probaby won't be around long at this price, if he doesnt want to miss out it cud always just sit in his garage in the meantime? it's doing the same in mine, begging to be ridden, i feel sorry for it. :no:

CookMySock

18th August 2009, 21:35

skidMark

18th August 2009, 21:40

It will also need a repair certificate, $350. Do you have before and after photos of the insurance write-off incident? If someone even breathes the words "frontal impact" they will require a strip and re-cert for the forks, and thats gunna be a grand.

Steve

Frame/brake cert if required is $160...(quoted by botany honda) i asked vtnz and they said probably not going to need it

it is written off as not economically viable vwith no mention of structural damage... and was a 30kph lowside

yes i have pictures of damage prior to repair.

EDIT:

links to pics of damage...

NOTE: THESE ARE PICS OF THE DAMAGE BEFORE IT WAS FIXED FAIRINGS HAVE SINCE BEEN PROFESSIONALLY PLASTIC WELDED AND RESPRAYED IN THE SAME COLOUR AS THE REST OF THE BIKE

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=75446&d=1194326445

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=75447&d=1194326445

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=75448&d=1194326445

As you can see very minor, insurance companys write off for pretty much anything it seems.

Repaired and repainted fairing...

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=134387&d=1247293809

CookMySock

18th August 2009, 22:00

As you can see very minor, insurance companys write off for pretty much anything it seems.Well I just researched this process, because I was looking at buying a VERY low kms 2008 bike that had been written off by the insurance company.

I was told by VTNZ, in this case I MUST have a repair certificate ($350).

The forks had been repaired with new stanchions, but this was not acceptible to the repair certifier, and the forks would have to be replaced with new ones, or stripped and recertified. Accordingly, I walked away from the deal. It was a 5k bike going for 2k, and I deemed the risk to be too high.

You MIGHT get away without getting additional certifications, but I would be very surprised indeed if VTNZ will VIN it with no repair cert.

The pictures you have SHOULD be ok to persuade the repair certifier that there was no frontal impact.

Really, everyone including you, would be far better off to spend the money yourself and put the price up accordingly.

edit: A word to people contemplating repairing a insurance write-off - Talk to the repair certifier BEFORE you lift a finger.

Steve

skidMark

18th August 2009, 22:08

Well I just researched this process, because I was looking at buying a VERY low kms 2008 bike that had been written off by the insurance company.

I was told by VTNZ, in this case I MUST have a repair certificate ($350).

The forks had been repaired with new stanchions, but this was not acceptible to the repair certifier, and the forks would have to be replaced with new ones, or stripped and recertified. Accordingly, I walked away from the deal. It was a 5k bike going for 2k, and I deemed the risk to be too high.

You MIGHT get away without getting additional certifications, but I would be very surprised indeed if VTNZ will VIN it with no repair cert.

The pictures you have SHOULD be ok to persuade the repair certifier that there was no frontal impact.

Really, everyone including you, would be far better off to spend the money yourself and put the price up accordingly.

edit: A word to people contemplating repairing a insurance write-off - Talk to the repair certifier BEFORE you lift a finger.

Steve

I would be better to get it done myself, if i was in a financial position to do so, and if that was the case i would not be sellling it, but i have been put out of work and the toys are the first thing to go i have bills to pay ie rent.

I looked into it all PRIOR to buying the bike, the cost of the frame/brake certification is $160, i went into VTNZ and showed pictures etc and they said it shuld not need a repair cert and t put it trhrough revin and they would decide then but said very likely it would not as it is NOT a structural write off.

If they did want forks stripped and checked it is cheaper to replace them... $250 usually on trademe for a set, but as i say there is no fork damage

Even if it did need all you mention... it still works out cheaper by a long shot than any zxr in similar condition both dealer and private sale

Mark.

Mully

18th August 2009, 22:12

I would be better to get it done myself, if i was in a financial position to do so, and if that was the case i would not be sellling it, but i have been put out of work and the toys are the first thing to go i have bills to pay ie rent.

Shit, weren't they trying to put more people on last week? Gutted.

Good luck with the sale. If those costs are right, someone would be getting a good bike for a little bit of work.

skidMark

18th August 2009, 22:15

Shit, weren't they trying to put more people on last week? Gutted.

Good luck with the sale. If those costs are right, someone would be getting a good bike for a little bit of work.

Yep they were then it all turned up the shit regarding receivership etc, i havn't got paid for my time working there hence i'm up shit creek withut a paddle and the bike sadly takes the fall.

Yep all the work to the bike is done they just got to throw it through a revin really, i would myself if i had the funds, then ride it ... which was my origional intention.

Cheers dude

Mark

Sidewinder

19th August 2009, 13:42

My 1993 zxr250C is up for sale, i'm nt going to let it go silly cheap, the only reason its up for sale is because i have run out of money to revin it and it is just gathering dust. well the second reason being bikes are not something i need in my life right now and my money is required elsewhere so it is best if it isn't there. but enough about that mre about ze bike!

It was written off by an insurance company because the front and left fairing were stuffed... these have been professionally repainted, personally i woud ad a couple of decals. cam chain has already been done along with tensioner etc etc

the swingarm has minor damage and will include a replacement swingarm with the sale of the bike...

genuine k's i have purchase invoice etc that you will need to get it revinned.

it may need new front discs they are right on 3.5mm which is the minimum thickness stamped on them...

a new set is $700 for both front discs quoted by mt eden mc's.

No time wasters. You can test ride it but it has no number plate so the onus is on you if you get pulled up.

obviously i will have to sight license and proof of funds prior to test riding.

bike also has a brand new tint screen.

PM me or call 021 250 76 71

Pictures here...

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=134612&d=1247551460

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=134303&d=1247203586

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=134269&d=1247177011

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=134302&d=1247203586

$3000 ono

Mark.

not to badder tidy up:Punk:

skidMark

19th August 2009, 18:14

bump..............:2guns:

discotex

19th August 2009, 18:28

Hmmm that first photo looks great. Should help with the sale. I guess I better assert my copyright and demand a share of the profits ;)

Best photo I ever took of that bike.

Seriously, anyone who wants to know the history prior to SM getting it let me know (I had it from about 20,000km from memory). I did the crash damage so can explain what happened if you're interested and can also vouch for his mention of the cam chain tensioner being fixed and that the cam chain is mint.

Would be tempted to buy it back as a track bike but I want a F3 400 or bigger.

Drew

19th August 2009, 18:33

You are kidding aye?

$3000 and it's not even vinned! Or even been for a check, so could fail miserably and be a 3 grand paper weight.

Is that what these things are worth? I got a dereg GSXR250 in the garage I might just take more interest in.

skidMark

19th August 2009, 18:49

Mully

19th August 2009, 19:43

I did the crash damage so can explain what happened if you're interested

NOOB!!!!

$3000 and it's not even vinned! Or even been for a check, so could fail miserably and be a 3 grand paper weight.

OK Mark, if you're confident about it. (not for me, cos I don't want it) - will you say that any sale is subject to a vin check - and if it fails on anything except what you've already advised, the sale is off?

Failing that, do you have enough cash to run it through the test yourself (do you get 28 days for those too?) and post up the "fail" sheet for people to look at?

skidMark

19th August 2009, 20:29

NOOB!!!!

OK Mark, if you're confident about it. (not for me, cos I don't want it) - will you say that any sale is subject to a vin check - and if it fails on anything except what you've already advised, the sale is off?

Failing that, do you have enough cash to run it through the test yourself (do you get 28 days for those too?) and post up the "fail" sheet for people to look at?

I am confident about the bike, but it is up to the buyer to look at the bike and inspect it for themselves i have noted the best i can i myself cannot see any revin problems apart from what is listed but withut putting it through a check i cannot be cmpletely and utterly certain the bike rides fine and apart from discs being right on limit i cannot see a problem.

No i cannt put it through a revin as i do not have the funds, hence it is for sale, if i had the money for a revin i would just keep it. But i have bills to pay.

Mark

Drew

19th August 2009, 22:03

Dealer price is 6.5k

Ok then, still doesn't seem cheap to me, but good luck with that.

skidMark

19th August 2009, 23:25

Ok then, still doesn't seem cheap to me, but good luck with that.

Unlike the cheap birth control pills purchased by the mair family, you lot need a special subsidy

CookMySock

20th August 2009, 08:48

I am confident about the bike, but it is up to the buyer to look at the bike and inspect it for themselvesThe thing is Mark, that decision is the certifiers', not the new owners.

If the Repair Cert Issuer is unhappy about the status of some repaired part because he was unable to inspect it throughout its' repair progress, or there isn't suitable photographic evidence to back what you claim, then he will require further tests and examination from a specialist - read - expensive.

None of this may apply to your case, as the damage was all cosmetic, but the onus is on the new owner to demonstrate that to the certifier with evidence, not just talk, so make sure photos come with the bike that show a repair trail.

Nice bike. My Daughter would love it.
Steve

discotex

20th August 2009, 10:00

None of this may apply to your case, as the damage was all cosmetic, but the onus is on the new owner to demonstrate that to the certifier with evidence, not just talk, so make sure photos come with the bike that show a repair trail.

The only damage that wasn't cosmetic that I was aware of is the swingarm and he's got the old one and a new one so that should be ok.

NOOB!!!!

Yeah I was but we're talking two years ago now.

CookMySock

20th August 2009, 10:30

The only damage that wasn't cosmetic that I was aware of is the swingarm and he's got the old one and a new one so that should be ok.As long as there are photos or documentation to demonstrate that, all SHOULD be cool.

The main problem is, the Repair Certifier was not involved from the beginning of the repair. This is a big no no. The job MUST be shown to the Repair Certifier BEFORE you lift a finger. HE will tell you what you must do, and then you must do that and show him invoices etc, or else he will force you to disassemble and test any part of the bike that HE holds in question. <_<

Steve

discotex

20th August 2009, 10:41

As long as there are photos or documentation to demonstrate that, all SHOULD be cool.

The main problem is, the Repair Certifier was not involved from the beginning of the repair. This is a big no no. The job MUST be shown to the Repair Certifier BEFORE you lift a finger. HE will tell you what you must do, and then you must do that and show him invoices etc, or else he will force you to disassemble and test any part of the bike that HE holds in question. <_<

Steve

I assume that excludes fairings. If that's the case there should be no problem as I don't think SM has swapped out the swingarm yet. I.e. it could still be taken to the certifier before anything is done (apart from the fairings which he's done already).

CookMySock

20th August 2009, 10:46

I assume that excludes fairings. If that's the case there should be no problem as I don't think SM has swapped out the swingarm yet. I.e. it could still be taken to the certifier before anything is done (apart from the fairings which he's done already).The RC said to me he didn't care about anything cosmetic.

If the swingarm is munted, definitely do NOT remove it yet. The new owner should take the bike to his chosen RC and pay the fee, and see what needs to be replaced. If the swingarm is on that list, show the RC the replacement item (clean it - do not paint it yet) and if he approves, then paint and fit it.

Steve

NinjaNanna

20th August 2009, 13:35

Seems to me there's money to be made here by SM and Discotex.

Seeing as you two are the only ones confident of it's ability to pass, Disco why don't you front with the Re-VIN costs then split what ever profit you make. I'd say Disco gets 80% and SM gets 20%.

Dont forget to agree on the initial value of the bike though (I'd suggest $2500)

If she's as good as you say should be easy money.

Drew

20th August 2009, 14:32

Dont forget to agree on the initial value of the bike though (I'd suggest $2500)

That's about what I reckon, from what I can find on trademe, and a mate who is a wrecker.

So how is $3000 cheap Mark?

NinjaNanna

20th August 2009, 16:16

So how is $3000 cheap Mark?

$3000 is cheap if the thing breezes through as easily as he says.

Trouble is as everybody knows, life is about managing risks - in my view $3000 is too expensive given the risk. $2500 between mates (assuming Discotex and SM are mates) would be about right.

If you don't know SM from a bar of soap or you question his judgement then it'd only be worth what you could part it out for. It'd just be a nice bonus if you could get it re-vinned at a reasonable cost.

FROSTY

21st August 2009, 18:21

I've got to ask here guys. All you xperts out there. Have ANY of you actually put a bike through the recompliance process within the last 12 months??
Before you all go off at me YES I have and yes I DO know the facts of what is or isnt needed
So It doesn't look like Im hijacking Marks thread Ill start a thread in the maintainance section.
anyone interested --- http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1129366559#post1129366559

trailblazer

21st August 2009, 21:36

skidMark

22nd August 2009, 04:56

i work at a repair certifacation centre and basicly if the bike has been written off it will need to have a repair cert. If you dnt have all previous work signed off it will cost the new owner a shit load to get this bike back on the road. but if you are willing to put money where your mouth is it will give new owner piece of mind. And yes i was very interested in the bike.

i have not dne any repairs as yet apart from the cosmetics, i have just fixed the fairings because i was panning to take it to a repair certifier to show them the swingarm and alternator cover, i have a spare swingarm and an alternator cover but havn't changed any of that yet... i can't put money where mouth is because i don't have any sadly otherwise i wouldn't be selling my baby.

i have put up all the pictures and info i can buyer would have to look at it for themself.

the nly non cosmetic damage would be the swingarm because the race stand bobbin mount got bent up and munted that part a little...

i crawled all over this bike for a couple of hours prior to forking over the cash.

if you are still interested you can PM me or call me on 021 250 76 71

i wish i could be of more hep regarding the revin process but this stuff is all new to me.

Cheers: Mark:Punk:

skidMark

22nd August 2009, 05:38

As i have said the price is negotiable guys...

CookMySock

22nd August 2009, 07:14

i have not dne any repairs as yet apart from the cosmetics, i have just fixed the fairings because i was panning to take it to a repair certifier to show them the swingarm and alternator cover, i have a spare swingarm and an alternator cover but havn't changed any of that yet...That is the beginning of the repair process. All good.

Now we discover what else is bent. Hopefully, and probably - nothing, but that is the RC's call.

Steve