ART day at Pukekohe 30th August

[kittytamer]

First ART (Advanced Rider Training) day of the season run by AMCC.
Who's gonna be there?

[Jacko2]

Me.............

[Kiwi Graham]

Yep :msn-wink:

[Jacko2]

Yep :msn-wink:

See you there Sensei:woohoo:

[p.dath]

I'll be there in novice slow.

[crazyv]

About to send my application via post. Planning on doing Group 1 (Novice slow) or 2

A couple of questions that come to mind however are :



Approx how fast would the bunch doing Group 1 be riding at (on avg) ? (how about Group 2)
Is it OK to change to Group 2 if you think it more suitable?
Have seen a few threads stating track conditions at Puke are dangerous etc. I myself have not seen the track - does anyone know if they have been fixed?


I would like to improve my cornering and hope this improves my body and bike positioning.

Cheers!
PS. Found this useful (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/wiki/AMCC_Advanced_Rider_Training)

[TOTO]

popping my cherry in novice fast, paid and confirmed :woohoo:

[TOTO]

About to send my application via post. Planning on doing Group 1 (Novice slow) or 2

A couple of questions that come to mind however are :



Approx how fast would the bunch doing Group 1 be riding at (on avg) ? (how about Group 2)
Is it OK to change to Group 2 if you think it more suitable?
Have seen a few threads stating track conditions at Puke are dangerous etc. I myself have not seen the track - does anyone know if they have been fixed?


I would like to improve my cornering and hope this improves my body and bike positioning.

Cheers!
PS. Found this useful (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/wiki/AMCC_Advanced_Rider_Training)


hey read this pdf file, I got it sent with my confirmation e-mail from the club. it answers many questions for first timers.

[Jacko2]

popping my cherry in novice fast, paid and confirmed :woohoo:

You beauty Toddy, 'bout time.
You'll love it.

[Sly_guy]

Hoping to turn up to this !..

First time at a track day (on a bike at least!)

Hoping their are enough spaces for me do a pay on the day job (anyone know how popular this has been so far ?) as I must admit I don't fancy doing my first one in the rain !!!

Still need to get my oggy knobs sorted before next weekend, and a back protector... crap... (hadn't realised the back protector was on the "must have" list)

[Kiwi Graham]

About to send my application via post. Planning on doing Group 1 (Novice slow) or 2

A couple of questions that come to mind however are :



Approx how fast would the bunch doing Group 1 be riding at (on avg) ? (how about Group 2)
Is it OK to change to Group 2 if you think it more suitable?
Have seen a few threads stating track conditions at Puke are dangerous etc. I myself have not seen the track - does anyone know if they have been fixed?


I would like to improve my cornering and hope this improves my body and bike positioning.

Cheers!
PS. Found this useful (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/wiki/AMCC_Advanced_Rider_Training)

Hi bud,
To give an answer to your questions,

1, Group 1-2 would be circulating in about the 1:40-50 mark (fast groups ciculate in about 0:59-1:05's). Its hard to put a kmh figure on it but people are able to hit very high speeds down the back straight dependent on their bike of course. It would be fair to say there is a wide spectrum of speeds in groups 1-2.
2, If you or a travelling marshal (me) think you should be in another group then either you should see the office dweller about moving or the marshal will move you, this will be for yours and others saftey and of course your enjoyment.
3, Pukekohe has a good high grip surface (in the wet castrol corner can be slippery thanks to the drifters!). The reference to danger is directed at a couple of corners with limited 'run off' AMCC protect these areas with cushions of straw filled bags tied together. Pukekohe is a dam sight safer than the public roads regardless.

Look me up on the day crazyv and I'll help and advise if you wish, look for blue bikes....a GSX1400 & R1, I'll be the dude in the BKS leathers that appear to have shrunk a little over the winter!
KG

[Gremlin]

They're bottled filled bails... like plastic milk bottles etc

but then again, you roving marshals don't seem to be needing to be picked up very often :done:

[zx rider]

Don't worry about the bails of bottles. If you look at them you will be with them. Kerrash!
See you guys there. L:chase:

[zx rider]

and a back protector... crap... (hadn't realised the back protector was on the "must have" list)[/QUOTE]

Try ''lifestyle imports'' for a back protector. Very good prices :done:

[Gremlin]

Course I worry about the bails... I have to put them back in place after you lot try to move them about! :rolleyes:

[Jacko2]

Don't worry about the bails of bottles. If you look at them you will be with them. Kerrash!
See you guys there. L:chase:

Hiya L
Be good to see you again mate.
JACKO

[crazyv]

Thanks KG and Toto

Need to get me my back protector now! Hope riding with steel cap work boots will be OK.

By the way how are you guys carrying your extra fuel? pack rack? My VTR will last approx 270-290kms on a full tank. It most likely would not last that much during ART day. Plus I will be riding to the event and not using trailer. Any suggestions? I am sure there will be a petrol station not too far off (?)

[Kiwi Graham]

Thanks KG and Toto

Need to get me my back protector now! Hope riding with steel cap work boots will be OK.

By the way how are you guys carrying your extra fuel? pack rack? My VTR will last approx 270-290kms on a full tank. It most likely would not last that much during ART day. Plus I will be riding to the event and not using trailer. Any suggestions? I am sure there will be a petrol station not too far off (?)

Mate, if you or anybody else wants kit/fuel taking down I'm happy to accomodate. Just Pm me with your phone number and I'll ring you with my address for dropping stuff round.

KG

[p.dath]

...
Need to get me my back protector now! Hope riding with steel cap work boots will be OK.
...
By the way how are you guys carrying your extra fuel? pack rack? My VTR will last approx 270-290kms on a full tank....

Just make sure the boots cover your ankles. My Honda CBR600 does about 240km's before the fuel light comes on. I fill it up at the local service station just before I enter, and found it lasted the day for me.

You could always exit the track at lunch time if you really needed to to get some more fuel.

[GSXR Trace]

ok, so im signed up for this one, in novice slow (personally don't want to look like an arse being constantly passed and clearly out of my depths) and also cause novice fast is full... but also cause I am not riding my gixer (not insured for track days) but will be riding dpex's yam, so will be looking forward to a great day at the track! see you all in a week!

[Sly_guy]

and also cause novice fast is full...

:eek5:... bugger, you're making me question my "leave it till next weekend policy"

[Kiwi Graham]

Dont leave it......book it!
There will be room in groups to move around after a session or two.

[Sly_guy]

Dont leave it......book it!
There will be room in groups to move around after a session or two.

But I'm super gay... and don't want to do my first track day in the rain !!

Don't suppose the weather forecasts are our for Sunday are they ?

[prettybillie]

I'm in! First time on Puke since my wee oopsie. I'm in novice slow - thought about novice fast, but going to ease back into my favourite track.

[p.dath]

I'm in! First time on Puke since my wee oopsie. I'm in novice slow - thought about novice fast, but going to ease back into my favourite track.

You'll be in Novice Slow for about 3s. Best you ask them to keep you a slot free in Novice Fast.

[p.dath]

I'm in! First time on Puke since my wee oopsie. I'm in novice slow - thought about novice fast, but going to ease back into my favourite track.

Looks like your too slow booking. "GSXR Trace" above says Novice Fast is now full.

[MaxCannon]

Unless someone buys my house between now and next week I'll have to pass.

Pity 'cause I'm itching for a track day

[GSXR Trace]

Looks like your too slow booking. "GSXR Trace" above says Novice Fast is now full.

I am only relaying what i was told, unless people are moved up or down from group 2 (which i believe is novice fast) on the day, that group is full
sorry to be bearer of bad news guys

[TOTO]

Its all up to you how fast you guys wanna go, if you are a bit faster for novice slow, that just means u will be lapping the others, who cares, just go chill out and enjoy :)

[p.dath]

Its all up to you how fast you guys wanna go, if you are a bit faster for novice slow, that just means u will be lapping the others, who cares, just go chill out and enjoy :)

As long as they don't scare the new Novice Slow users ....

[Sly_guy]

TITS...

http://www.metservice.co.nz/public/localWeather/auckland.html

showing as RAIN on sunday ! :(

[TOTO]

TITS...

http://www.metservice.co.nz/public/localWeather/auckland.html

showing as RAIN on sunday ! :(

I think u might be wrong. :bleh: Look at today - it was supposed to be pissing with rain, but look out the window, glorious day for a ride...



<img src="http://www.metvuw.com/forecast/2009082518/rain-nzni-2009082518-102.gif"></img>

[prettybillie]

As long as they don't scare the new Novice Slow users ....

I'm sure if someone is really in the wrong group the coaches from AMCC will move them. I'm just planning on pootling around enjoying the :sunny: (or rain) with the joy of no gravel, no cars, no-one coming in the opposite direction and having some good advice given to me by the group of coaches who do actually know what they're talking about

[Sly_guy]

I think u might be wrong. :bleh: Look at today - it was supposed to be pissing with rain, but look out the window, glorious day for a ride...



<img src="http://www.metvuw.com/forecast/2009082518/rain-nzni-2009082518-102.gif"></img>

I SOO want you to be right !!!! :)

[Kiwi Graham]

As long as they don't scare the new Novice Slow users ....

Anybody clearly riding beyond or below the group's ability they are in WILL be moved.

Nice warm sunny weather has been booked :innocent:

[prettybillie]

Hey all

I've just heard from the AMCC membership sexytary that there are 25 places left over the 3 remaining groups (group 2 is full) and at close off at 9pm tonight the AMCC is expecting entries over all groups will be closed, so......if anyone is thinking of coming out on Sunday and pay on the day they should pray someone doesn’t turn up!

On the question of back protectors, they are compulsory for riders wearing a two piece where the jacket/pants do not zip up and highly recommended for anyone in a zipped two piece or one piece.

See ya'll there!!!

[Sammy12]

Im coming to watch... See you all there :D

[crazyv]

Do you know if its free for public to watch from the stands? or are the gates opened to paid entrants only?

[TOTO]

Do you know if its free for public to watch from the stands? or are the gates opened to paid entrants only?

it is free to watch. The stands I think are open, altho I find it more exciting to go on the inside of the track as this way you can walk inside the track and go see how people take each corner.
There is a green overbridge for pedestrians so even if the sessions have started you can still hop on to the other side.

[crazyv]

ah great! good to know

[Toot Toot]

How much is it?

[TOTO]

How much is it?

Clicky... (http://www.amcc.org.nz/entry_forms/ARTAug2009Entry.pdf)

[MaxCannon]

I'm hoping I'll be free for the next one.

It's unlikely I'll be out for a ride on Sunday so if anyone is in desperate need of a back protector to borrow (or indeed a set of leathers- size 42) PM me.

[The Stranger]

How much is it?

Burglar!..

[TOTO]

for those of you going there for first time, here is a picture how to get in...

and a google link...clicky
(http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=pukekohe+raceway&sll=-36.981491,174.831214&sspn=0.781078,1.233215&ie=UTF8&ll=-37.218402,174.915133&spn=0.010936,0.038538&z=15&layer=c&cbll=-37.218404,174.915134&panoid=0iWe3o4jdkch8zluPrP2tw&cbp=11,354.1,,0,4.37)
<img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=139652&d=1251332548"><?img>

[p.dath]

There is a whole lot of info on the ART day in the Wiki if you need to know more.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/wiki/AMCC_Advanced_Rider_Training

[Kiwi Graham]

Anybody wanting to find out more about what goes on or ask any questions about ART track days, a few of us will be at the AMCC club rooms this evening and will be more than happy to advise.
KG

[Sly_guy]

Anybody wanting to find out more about what goes on or ask any questions about ART track days, a few of us will be at the AMCC club rooms this evening and will be more than happy to advise.
KG

Damn, If i'd got home from work a bit earlier, I would have popped over...

Out of curiosity... I've had a bit pissing around, trying to get a back protector... I've ended up getting one that is specific for my ixon jacket, but is a full on C.E. plastic and foam thing, just replaces the standard foam in the back of the jacket... please tell me that "ticks the box" as far as the back protection goes ?

I also ordered some Oggy Knobs... just in case... however, there was a stuff up and Cycletreads only ordered 1 knob.... bugger !:argue:

[Kiwi Graham]

Damn, If i'd got home from work a bit earlier, I would have popped over...

Out of curiosity... I've had a bit pissing around, trying to get a back protector... I've ended up getting one that is specific for my ixon jacket, but is a full on C.E. plastic and foam thing, just replaces the standard foam in the back of the jacket... please tell me that "ticks the box" as far as the back protection goes ?

I also ordered some Oggy Knobs... just in case... however, there was a stuff up and Cycletreads only ordered 1 knob.... bugger !:argue:

That sounds perfect.
Enjoy your day, looking forward to seeing you out there.

[TOTO]

I also ordered some Oggy Knobs... just in case... however, there was a stuff up and Cycletreads only ordered 1 knob.... bugger !:argue:

hahaha you monkey, you see what happens when you leave things to the last minute. hope you got the right nob, as puke has mostly right hand turns :)

lol

[kittytamer]

Just got an email from AMCC saying this day is fully booked, so anyone planning on showing up on the day and riding may be out of luck.
Hopefully the rain will stay away as I will be out track for the first time on my Multistrada! (the R6 isn't ready)
Which group is the inapropriate track bike group?

[Reido]

i'll be there =]
hope the weather holds out

[p.dath]

Just a note that this event is now 100% booked. If you have not pre-registered you wont be able to turn up on the day.

[crazyv]

I don't think they have lockers but do they have a facility (hopefully secure) where the riders can keep belongings? (e.g. Camera, food/drink)

I understand we get a meal for lunch (if pre-registered) but is there a cafeteria or such too?

[p.dath]

I don't think they have lockers but do they have a facility (hopefully secure) where the riders can keep belongings? (e.g. Camera, food/drink)

I understand we get a meal for lunch (if pre-registered) but is there a cafeteria or such too?

From memory there is no cafe or anything you can actually spend money at.

When it comes to lunch you go to the Jennian homes building, and you get a pack of sandwiches/roll, drink and some fruit. Don't forget to bring some drinking water (water at track is not drinkable).
Probably not a bad idea to bring yourself some snacks as well.

Apart from toilets, don't count on their being any other facilities.

[Kiwi Graham]

I don't think they have lockers but do they have a facility (hopefully secure) where the riders can keep belongings? (e.g. Camera, food/drink)

I understand we get a meal for lunch (if pre-registered) but is there a cafeteria or such too?

Facilities at Pukekohe are limited, but. There are toilets!
Pre booked riders are catered for with a ‘packed lunch’ however it is good advise to bring additional snacks and drinks because generally there isn’t any catering on sight for ART events.

On your way to the circuit stop at the service station at the roundabout of Massey Ave, Stadium Dr & Manukau Rd or further down Manukau road and stock up on snacks and take the opportunity to fill up with gas. There will be opportunities to ‘nip out’ to fill up during the day but I’d hate for you to miss a session due to running out of petrol.

There is no secure storage area for gear but if you talk nicely to the staff in the office I’m sure a bag could be left there. I will be set up near the Jennian homes building and kit can be left in my truck if you wish.

Weather!!
The forecast looks like it may rain before the end of the day however, Pukekohe has an amazing micro climate and while all around is wet it is often remains dry (it can work in the opposite direction sometimes) as to when the weather turns wet, who knows. There is a good chance we get the day finished before it arrives.

KG

[LBD]

So watch out for the lass on the Blue SV650...

If you get the chance tell her LBD says hi....

[TOTO]

So watch out for the lass on the Blue SV650...let me know how she went?

If you get the chance tell her LBD says hi....

i'll go say hi bro :)

she a relative or something ?

[Sly_guy]

Looks a bit wet fellas.... been raining most of the night !

(or am I just being a big pussy!?!?)

[TOTO]

dont judge it from auckland bro.

see u soon.

[p.dath]

Looks a bit wet fellas.... been raining most of the night !

(or am I just being a big pussy!?!?)

Good. Hopefully it will be rained out.

[p.dath]

The 6am VUW satellite for this morning makes it look like there is less cloud over the North Island. Keeping fingers crossed.

[TOTO]

Big thanks to all of you instructors, marshals, and the AMCC club as a whole for making it happen.

Had a fantastic day, learned a lot of new stuff, and looking foward to meeting you fine people again on the next one.

Many Thanks :)

[crazyv]

Yea, 2nd that - awesome day (2 sessions anyway) - Marshals and Organisers were great - lots of good information and hints. Looking forward to the next one in Nov already!

ps. How do you request pictures from the photographers?

[TOTO]

ps. How do you request pictures from the photographers?

my question aswell :)

[p.dath]

...ps. How do you request pictures from the photographers?

The club usually sends out an email with the info.

[The Stranger]

So the questions on everybody's lips - how did dpex go with his new riders? Did he make it? Did the delinquents make it? Is his bike still in one piece?

[TOTO]

So the questions on everybody's lips - how did dpex go with his new riders? Did he make it? Did the delinquents make it? Is his bike still in one piece?

bike is fine, and riders had fun, so all was good. Big ups to david for giving the guys a chance to do something like that. I have not seen anyone else in a long time do something from the heart and not for proffit. well done dpex.

[Gremlin]

So the questions on everybody's lips - how did dpex go with his new riders? Did he make it? Did the delinquents make it? Is his bike still in one piece?
He created a new thread somewhere... saw it a little while ago.

My report: It was wet. :yes:

[TOTO]

My report: It was wet. :yes:

weather was weather after all :sunny:

[Gremlin]

weather was weather after all :sunny:
You weren't standing in it every session... :bleh:

I ended up being in charge at the hairpin training a couple of newbies (ie... their first day :lol:). Way to start for them, I think I rank that as equal worst weather in several seasons.

Only had one chap try out our services, with a relatively minor highside, which he trundled back to the pits...

[TOTO]

Thank you so very much for your services Sir :niceone:

[kittytamer]

Anyone taking pictures out there yesterday?
I would love a pic of me on my Multistrada - probably the first & last time on track with it!
It had a comedy No.7 on the front...

[Kiwi Graham]

Well what a day that was!
The forecasted big wet arrived with a vengeance at 2:30 ending proceedings for the day. Standing water and a small river running across the circuit made it too dangerous to continue. Discounts and a BBQ for the next one guy/gals.

The standard of riding considering the conditions was excellent some gaining an understanding of what a sliding bike feels like and the importances of smooth lines and throttle control.

We had a massive contingent of track novices which was fantastic to see and we hope you gained a lot out of the day. It’s rewarding to watch individuals improve there skills, taking note of what is being advised and putting it into practise out on the circuit.

Thanks to Gremlin and his team for looking after us out there and testing the efficiency of their waterproofs.

We are always looking to improve the way the day is run so if you have any suggestions/ideas please contact the club or one of us with them and they will be discussed and considered.

See you all in November.

[jamiey]

Some photos are up on www.highside.co.nz

[chaos rider]

Anyone taking pictures out there yesterday?
I would love a pic of me on my Multistrada - probably the first & last time on track with it!
It had a comedy No.7 on the front...

140184
this it?

[kittytamer]

140184
this it?

Yep thats 'The Beast'

There,s some action shots taken coming up the hill on highsides website, so that,s pretty cool!

Thanks guys

[prettybillie]

Thanks to all, it's a bummer it got rained out. No matter how good the planning and prep is you can't prepare the weather unfortunately. Mind you it's good to get that first ride around puke after my oopsie on there out of the way.....

Thanks heaps and heaps and heaps to the boys down in pit one for helping me out - well okay doing everything for me....I did get my tits out as promised ha!

[TOTO]

Thanks heaps and heaps and heaps to the boys down in pit one for helping me out - well okay doing everything for me....I did get my tits out as promised ha!

good on them for lending you a hand :)

[Toot Toot]

140184
this it?

Can I ask what the point is in having all those bikes up on race stands?? FFS there are no tyre warmers in sight, and I doubt all those people were changing their suspension out for that matter.
Wank factor maybe??

[Gremlin]

Thanks to Gremlin and his team for looking after us out there and testing the efficiency of their waterproofs.
:laugh: Its hardly my team... but I did get to play point chief again... Angela is the chief flag marshall.

Think of me as that laughing face that comes over to point and laugh when you cock up :innocent::done:

[Jacko2]

Can I ask what the point is in having all those bikes up on race stands?? FFS there are no tyre warmers in sight, and I doubt all those people were changing their suspension out for that matter.
Wank factor maybe??

Maybe race fairings? no side stands?

[Danger Dave]

Can I ask what the point is in having all those bikes up on race stands?? FFS there are no tyre warmers in sight, and I doubt all those people were changing their suspension out for that matter.
Wank factor maybe??

maybe they were just changing wheels or tyres as it did rain after the first session.

[Howsie]

Anyone taking pictures out there yesterday?
I would love a pic of me on my Multistrada - probably the first & last time on track with it!
It had a comedy No.7 on the front...

I was taking pics all day, will trawl through them all for you.

Also if anyone else would like me to look for pics of them i am happy to do so.

Sorry its been so long but my camera packed a sad after getting a bit damp on the ride home!

[Jacko2]

I was taking pics all day, will trawl through them all for you.

Also if anyone else would like me to look for pics of them i am happy to do so.

Sorry its been so long but my camera packed a sad after getting a bit damp on the ride home!

Can you look for a blue SV, black leathers,
thanks mate

[Sly_guy]

First chance I've had to post since Sunday...

Ok, so it was a bit damp... but I can 100% say I really enjoyed it, and will be back to the next one !

My first ever track day, so was obviously a bit on the nervous side, that combined with the whole, "this is my every day commuter too" didn't help !

The first session, getting those sighter laps in, checking out the lines, all at a tame speed.. then the fun really started, opening up the bike on to the back straight, and trying to have the balls to keep it full throttle all the way down (still don't think I did manage that all day).

I was astounded at the amount of grip, in both the dry and the wet.. a real eye opener.

Prior to the track day, I was lacking in confidence to an extent, but I can feel this has increased already, (not in a "I'm fucking great me" way....), so will deffo be back for more of this!

Could become an expensive hobby ! :)

Thanks again to all the Instructors and the Organisers !.. good stuff ! :)

[Howsie]

Can you look for a blue SV, black leathers,
thanks mate

Can do, will let you know asap.

[CookMySock]

Did anyone manage to get photos of young Christian on Dpexs' bike? He'd be bloody keen to see those.

Steve

[kittytamer]

Could become an expensive hobby ! :)



....wait 'till you start racing!

Glad to hear you had a good day, it's addictive.

[chaos rider]

I was taking pics all day, will trawl through them all for you.

Also if anyone else would like me to look for pics of them i am happy to do so.

Sorry its been so long but my camera packed a sad after getting a bit damp on the ride home!

you didnt happen to get any of the hyo did you all the ones my sis and gf took were well bad, but they did try and i was a bit fast for our camera

thanks

[Sammy12]

I got a couple of shots before my camera died
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=2597
:D

[Howsie]

you didnt happen to get any of the hyo did you all the ones my sis and gf took were well bad, but they did try and i was a bit fast for our camera

thanks

i did get some, pm me your email address and ill send them through :)