990 Adventure for sale. [Archive]

Crisis management

4th September 2009, 18:35

Seeing as every other bugger is getting back into mid sized bikes I've decided to join them so I can try and keep up with them...... :Oi:

This is just a heads up that the big KTM will be for sale in the near future, so if anyone knows anyone that might want one, keep me in mind!

06, 990 Adventure in anthracite with Akrapovics, Givi luggage and an attitude.

Now I've just got to decide what colour to buy next....orange? red? yellow? blue? green...no, not green. Decisions, decisions, who's going to let me try out their bikes to assist in the decision making process?

Cheers
Iain

junkmanjoe

4th September 2009, 18:40

OH crap....my misses said i can buy a new ute..so my katoom :nono: has to wait...:doh:..
i knew this would happen...:blank:

so now for selling the 990...i fell you should go suzi yellow...:niceone:

you better come come and join us on the end of the month..in the fishers track..

dino3310

4th September 2009, 18:49

ring that dude in puke Iain you might be able to get your DR back:argh: if that dont work i'll swap with ya mate;)

Crisis management

4th September 2009, 19:07

OH crap....my misses said i can buy a new ute..so my katoom :nono: has to wait...:doh:..

C'mon, you're employed again Joe, whats $15k in the big picture???

if that dont work i'll swap with ya mate;)

Generous to a fault Deano, I'm overwhelmed....you doing the 42nd debacle? we may catch up there........

Cary

4th September 2009, 20:17

Seeing as every other bugger is getting back into mid sized bikes I've decided to join them so I can try and keep up with them...... :Oi:

Now I've just got to decide what colour to buy next....orange? red? yellow? blue? green...no, not green. Decisions, decisions, who's going to let me try out their bikes to assist in the decision making process?

Cheers
Iain15k ah, I'm sure I could squeeze one more in the garage..... and i'm sure Paula wouldn't mind! :angry2:

Well if you make it to Woodhill Sunday the XR will be waiting......

junkmanjoe

4th September 2009, 20:27

C'mon, you're employed again Joe, whats $15k in the big picture???

yup and thats $995.00 short of the price of the ute...

good luck with the sale..:scooter:

tri boy

4th September 2009, 20:28

Seeing as every other bugger is getting back into mid sized bikes I've decided to join them so I can try and keep up with them...... :Oi:

Cheers
Iain

You just want to hang out with the popular kids.;)

dino3310

4th September 2009, 20:36

Generous to a fault Deano, I'm overwhelmed....you doing the 42nd debacle? we may catch up there........

trying to get there mate, ive been itching to get back there since my last shortened weekend down those ways

Taz

5th September 2009, 08:41

yup and thats $995.00 short of the price of the ute...

good luck with the sale..:scooter:

You serious? surely you can get a cheaper reliable ute and have more towards riding and other things? 16k is quite a debt.

Paladin

5th September 2009, 08:58

+1 on that! C'mon Joe, get your priorities straight bro!

:whistle:

dino3310

5th September 2009, 16:35

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=106851
seems to be the new rage for the elder statesmen at the moment:whistle:

JATZ

5th September 2009, 18:25

if that dont work i'll swap with ya mate;)

:Oi: TRAITOR

I'm watching you :yeah:

dino3310

5th September 2009, 18:58

:Oi: TRAITOR

I'm watching you :yeah:

wasnt me mate:whistle: it was my alter ego:wacko:

dino3310

5th September 2009, 19:02

So what ya thinking of Iain another DR or one of those other thingies.

oh oh what about trade swap for one of those new tenere's

BMWST?

5th September 2009, 19:21

990 eh....hmmm

junkmanjoe

5th September 2009, 19:53

990 eh....hmmm

too much for you mate......ill swap ya for your beemer...:2thumbsup

BMWST?

5th September 2009, 22:05

too much for you mate......ill swap ya for your beemer...:2thumbsup

swap what for teh beemer??.

dino3310

7th September 2009, 17:44

hey joe where you going with that gun in your hand:Oops: got carried away.

hey joe buy this for work then you can afford Iains beasty
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=107182

junkmanjoe

7th September 2009, 18:31

going down town to ...... my old lady....
i caught her messing round with another man......:oi-grr:

Taz

7th September 2009, 21:32

going down town to ...... my old lady....
i caught her messing round with another man......:oi-grr:

You heard that before have you?

junkmanjoe

7th September 2009, 21:47

i have it on disc.....Hendrix rulez...

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Crisis management

8th September 2009, 07:52

The way this threads taken off on a tangent it should be "Lucy in the sky with diamonds". Now focus people, one of you is supposed to be buying my bike, not reminicsing on left handed guitar players. :whistle:

Taz

8th September 2009, 08:00

We're just helping bump it to the top of the list to give it more exposure Ian.

So come on you guys if any one out there is after a really nice V Twin "ROAD BIKE" this is the one for you!! :lol:

munterk6

8th September 2009, 08:09

How much $$$ are you puttin on the 990? Im lookin at the mo...

Crisis management

8th September 2009, 08:33

We're just helping bump it to the top of the list to give it more exposure Ian.

So come on you guys if any one out there is after a really nice V Twin "ROAD BIKE" this is the one for you!! :lol:

I always love it when you "help' Andy....bastid:hug:

How much $$$ are you puttin on the 990? Im lookin at the mo...

As it sits $15,000 to a KBer, otherwise by the end of the week it's on tardme for a bit more, if your interested send an email address and I will send you details, lies and a strong line of sales patter. :woohoo:

Oscar

8th September 2009, 11:09

Waihou Thumper

8th September 2009, 13:04

Must be nice and dry in there at present? Creeks a little lower and the clay track up from the rock climb nice and firm...
Good stuff!

Oscar

8th September 2009, 13:16

Must be nice and dry in there at present? Creeks a little lower and the clay track up from the rock climb nice and firm...
Good stuff!

-5 Overnight (we stayed in the hut).
The clay was slippery on the way out.
The big creek was marginal.

marks

8th September 2009, 13:29

It was so good off road, I'm considering ditching my 625.

so it may not even last as long as the DRZ????

whats it worth?

Waihou Thumper

8th September 2009, 13:33

so it may not even last as long as the DRZ????

whats it worth?

Is this the 625sxc that was in Hamilton? Good bike, bit of a trail beast compared to the 640A, I didn't get a chance to see it in the flesh but liked it from the pictures....Would have had a good comparison ride against my bike...

Oscar

8th September 2009, 13:45

so it may not even last as long as the DRZ????

whats it worth?

I was joking.

Oscar

8th September 2009, 13:46

Is this the 625sxc that was in Hamilton? Good bike, bit of a trail beast compared to the 640A, I didn't get a chance to see it in the flesh but liked it from the pictures....Would have had a good comparison ride against my bike...

Come and have a fang on it.
I had a 640E previously and it's similar to that, but I'd be interested in riding it back to back with a 640a.

Waihou Thumper

8th September 2009, 14:02

Come and have a fang on it.
I had a 640E previously and it's similar to that, but I'd be interested in riding it back to back with a 640a.

Thanks, it would eat the adventure, as I have the weight but what do you get for range on that tank then? I see you can get bigger tanks too....
We will meet in time I am sure at some ride, so yes, would be interested to see how it goes?
Kick it easy? Do you practise? The adventure is really easy, I had to up North when the bike took a liking to the rock pools at Poutu Point....hehe
My starter had to be disconnected as it wanted to go by itself when I turned the key....Like a battery, kept going and going....;)
Now, I kick it a couple of times for fun....(and kick start it too) ;)

Oscar

8th September 2009, 16:28

Thanks, it would eat the adventure, as I have the weight but what do you get for range on that tank then? I see you can get bigger tanks too....
We will meet in time I am sure at some ride, so yes, would be interested to see how it goes?
Kick it easy? Do you practise? The adventure is really easy, I had to up North when the bike took a liking to the rock pools at Poutu Point....hehe
My starter had to be disconnected as it wanted to go by itself when I turned the key....Like a battery, kept going and going....;)
Now, I kick it a couple of times for fun....(and kick start it too) ;)

Kick starting?
Easy. I think you have to regard the starter on the SXC and E models as more of an electric assist as frequent use (on snotty trail rides) does drain the battery quickly.

rogson

8th September 2009, 20:11

...Now I've just got to decide what colour to buy next....orange? red? yellow? blue? green...

I'm betting orange.......better be quick though, I was told only one left at the importers.

Crisis management

8th September 2009, 20:38

I'm betting orange.......better be quick though, I was told only one left at the importers.

You should drop round...I has a surprise for you! :woohoo:

dino3310

9th September 2009, 15:36

You should drop round...I has a surprise for you! :woohoo:

:gob: oh no you havent have you:no::crybaby:

Crisis management

9th September 2009, 16:45

:gob: oh no you havent have you:no::crybaby:

WTF?

Back on topic....as part of the deal I got the appropriate attire, one must always attempt to dress correctly.....:cool:

CrazyFrog

9th September 2009, 16:49

WTF?

Back on topic....as part of the deal I got the appropriate attire, one must always attempt to dress correctly.....:cool:

So you bought the 640A on TradeMe last week? That was going with some BMW gear....

Crisis management

9th September 2009, 16:56

So you bought the 640A on TradeMe last week? That was going with some BMW gear....

Bugger, thought I might have got a bit more mileage out of that.

Yes.....those BMW riders must be a weird shape tho, it fits nicely all round except the waist, I could carry my sleeping bag in there as well, must drink more beer to conform to that shape!

So, before the high commander notices 3 bikes loitering around the property, I have to shift the 990, looks like Tardme is looming...last week of special price for KBers.

Rushes outside to move bikes into different places to confuse SWMBO

Waihou Thumper

9th September 2009, 16:58

So the phone call was not wasted afterall, knew it....
Disappeared off Tarde Me fast......

Oscar

9th September 2009, 17:17

WTF?

Back on topic....as part of the deal I got the appropriate attire, one must always attempt to dress correctly.....:cool:

Appropriate attire for what?
Priscilla Queen of the Desert?

junkmanjoe

9th September 2009, 17:20

just out of interested..why are there a few chaps moving in to smaller bikes..

i also notice there be heaps of drs for sale at the moment..

im guess you have brought a new smaller katoom..

marks

9th September 2009, 18:07

i also notice there be heaps of drs for sale at the moment..

their owners finally test rode a klr....

junkmanjoe

9th September 2009, 18:19

thee is heaps of 08 models for sale ...

Eddieb

9th September 2009, 18:50

their owners finally test rode a klr....

thee is heaps of 08 models for sale ...

Yeah, they are the Exxon Valdez Special Edition.

Taz

9th September 2009, 19:01

just out of interested..why are there a few chaps moving in to smaller bikes..

I went to the 525 because I wanted a bike that I could ride along the road and if I saw a track or trail disappearing into the wild I'd have the ability to go and explore it even if on my own. With the XT600 and the BMW 1100 I didn't really have that option as the XT was a little heavy and lacking in suspension for rough going and the BMW was way too heavy to have fun in that enviroment. I can also trail ride or race it:). Oh and have I mentioned wheelies?

Crisis management

9th September 2009, 21:16

Similar reasons to Andy, I can only keep one adventure bike so it has to do all things for me (compromise, compromise) and, while the 990 is a great bike, I want to be able to go anywhere by myself and the 990 is too large to safely take up tracks solo.

Middle size does it for me, with the 640 I can ride anywhere (hopefully).....

Taz

9th September 2009, 21:23

Yeah but can you do motocross?? :bleh: I could if I wanted to :o

cooneyr

9th September 2009, 21:34

I'll bite on the big bike/mid bike question. I've no doubt I could punt a DR650 or KTM640 faster along a gravel or dirt track than the 950. The mid sized bikes are easier to ride - braking coming into a corner is easier, powering out without stepping the back out in a massive way is easier (don't get me wrong controlled slides are good), picking it up is easier etc etc.

I think you need to look at the intended purpose of the bike. I brought the XTZ and then the 950 AdvS so I could carry my wife around the country side. Having played with mid sized bikes and bigger twins I'd definitely have a mid sized for solo riding around NZ. I'm just lucky enough that I'm big enough to pick up the 950 reasonably easily and I'm pretty happy to ride it on some reasonably challenging stuff - even if I'm not that fast. If nothing else the suspension is pure bliss compared to anything I've had prior.

Cheers R

jafar

9th September 2009, 22:58

Yeah, they are the Exxon Valdez Special Edition.

they all look the bloody same :msn-wink:

clint640

10th September 2009, 08:42

Crisis management

10th September 2009, 09:10

Ahhh... the force is strong in this one... first they shall learn the orange way then in time the true revelation of the superiority of the LC4 will come :yes:

Congrats on the new bike! I assume you have seen this:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86958

Cheers
Clint

Thanks Clint, yes I've been pouring over ADV for the last couple of weeks and am looking forward to getting the LC4 on the gravel.

Cheers
Iain

Cary

10th September 2009, 09:17

just out of interested..why are there a few chaps moving in to smaller bikes..
Well I should a bought the 950 to start with and may not have moved. I was having to push the Tiger in a vain effort to keep up(just my nature) with the fun at the front & the suspension was taking a hammering so.......

Then there were times when Clint & Co would vear off to a side track and I couldn't follow :crybaby:

Will still use the Tiger for some KB Adv rides tho.

Iain, Tiger + $3k .......:blip:

Cary

10th September 2009, 09:20

Oh yeah, congrats Iain, be seeing you on the 42/Fishers :yes:

young1

10th September 2009, 15:26

Now when selling a bike like this that has the "blingy" bits like Akrapovic exhausts etc. Do you make more money selling those bits separately or with the bike.........

(In other words Ian when you going to list the pipes for sale separately!!)

Mike

Oscar

10th September 2009, 16:40

Oh yeah, congrats Iain, be seeing you on the 42/Fishers :yes:

Plenty of 990/950's have been over those tracks...

Cary

10th September 2009, 16:49

Plenty of 990/950's have been over those tracks...

So has the Tiger, did it easy but never again.

Crisis management

10th September 2009, 16:49

Oh yeah, congrats Iain, be seeing you on the 42/Fishers :yes:

Hope so, still working on brownie points but its looking good....

(In other words Ian when you going to list the pipes for sale separately!!)

You don't give up do you? Look, buy the whole thing then you will have plenty of spares and you can mix & match the panels for that "interesting" look.

Plenty of 990/950's have been over those tracks...
Not disagreeing Oscar, but I need to feel confident taking the bike anywhere by myself. 70kgs of me doesn't pick up 200kgs of 990.

NordieBoy

10th September 2009, 18:09

Not disagreeing Oscar, but I need to feel confident taking the bike anywhere by myself. 70kgs of me doesn't pick up 200kgs of 990.

More pies...

BMWST?

10th September 2009, 19:10

well i rode a 950 stm today only similar bike i could find down here......
:eek5::eek5::eek5:

sorry about the pic it was taken for other purposes

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/30057073@N08/3905078707/" title="ktm 001 by kiwiproflexrider, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3422/3905078707_edf5142fb2.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="ktm 001" /></a>

Eddieb

11th September 2009, 20:37

so some 950 owner hurry up and buy this as an upgrade so I can buy your 950.

warewolf

12th September 2009, 23:00

Yeah but can you do motocross?? :bleh: I could if I wanted to :oMX... flat track maybe, SX-style... uh, not this little black duck.

XC... sure thing.

525 would certainly do it better though.

NordieBoy

13th September 2009, 09:05

Yeah but can you do motocross?? :bleh: I could if I wanted to :o

How about supercross?

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/dirt/2003-11-30-Glenhope/slides/mvc-227f.jpg

junkmanjoe

13th September 2009, 13:36

thats some big air............:scooter:......... there nordie

NordieBoy

13th September 2009, 22:22

Li'll bro MXing an AG100.

dino3310

14th September 2009, 17:52

what about the landing, did it break, crack or bounce

dino3310

14th September 2009, 17:53

Hey Iain, any descent bites on the Katoooom yet mate?

Crisis management

14th September 2009, 19:09

Hey Iain, any descent bites on the Katoooom yet mate?

There has been a bit of interest with a couple of people sounding serious but with all things for sale, nothings happened until someone fronts with an offer. I'm not expecting to sell the bike in a week, it's a serious amount of cash and people need to take there time to be sure they want to spend that much.

Surprisingly, I've had more offers for bits of it so far, there's a queue of people after the Akras and I've been surprised how many other bits I've had enquiries for....I want to sell it in one lump!

I shall continue waiting patiently and answering questions.....

NordieBoy

14th September 2009, 20:25

what about the landing, did it break, crack or bounce

Shocks were a bit dodgy by the end of the day.

BMWST?

14th September 2009, 21:07

There has been a bit of interest with a couple of people sounding serious but with all things for sale, nothings happened until someone fronts with an offer. I'm not expecting to sell the bike in a week, it's a serious amount of cash and people need to take there time to be sure they want to spend that much.

Surprisingly, I've had more offers for bits of it so far, there's a queue of people after the Akras and I've been surprised how many other bits I've had enquiries for....I want to sell it in one lump!

I shall continue waiting patiently and answering questions.....

many thanks for your patience so far!And you have a good view of the situation.The ammount of money is not a problem,as you say one must make a desicion on a number of intangibles.Plus of course there is ones own bike to do something with...I WILL let you know one way or the other.

Waihou Thumper

14th September 2009, 23:54

me feels.......
Time will tell......:msn-wink:

young1

15th September 2009, 08:27

Surprisingly, I've had more offers for bits of it so far, there's a queue of people after the Akras .....

You slut, you mean there is someone else!! :niceone:

Crisis management

15th September 2009, 09:23

You slut, you mean there is someone else!! :niceone:

I tell you, at the moment I have people after:
The Akras,
The Givi boxes,
The touring seat.

Maybe I should sell it in bits?

young1

15th September 2009, 09:30

I tell you, at the moment I have people after:
The Akras,
The Givi boxes,
The touring seat.

Maybe I should sell it in bits?

Seat!!! You never mentioned anything about that to me......

cooneyr

15th September 2009, 09:42

Seat!!! You never mentioned anything about that to me......

You can have the seat and I'll have the Akras ;)

Cant actually afford any of the above cause I've still got to pay of the last of the bike.

Crisis management

15th September 2009, 10:10

How about you two get together with Ducati Jim and buy the whole thing then split up the bits you each want....good deal??? :niceone:

Crisis management

23rd October 2009, 12:26

Thanks to those of you who expressed an interest and made the process entertaining, the 990 is happliy sliding its way south from Jaffa land as I type.

ducatijim

23rd October 2009, 15:25

Well done Iain, hope i can be so blessed when comes time to part with 'darkie'?:calm:

dino3310

23rd October 2009, 15:36

nice one Iain, one less bike in the garage for the wifey to complain about,
Did the Katoom go to another KBer?

Waihou Thumper

23rd October 2009, 17:41

Thanks to those of you who expressed an interest and made the process entertaining, the 990 is happliy sliding its way south from Jaffa land as I type.

Hmm, doesn't leave Joe with much choice now does it....aye?
:whistle:

junkmanjoe

23rd October 2009, 18:05

Oh dont be tool FOOLED.....im dealing with Wheels of Thames...
them the men in the know....:2thumbsup

Waihou Thumper

23rd October 2009, 18:21

He is also a Kawasaki dealer too...so, buying a KLR then....are ya? :buggerd:

junkmanjoe

23rd October 2009, 18:28

oh....thats just nasty......:pinch:

dino3310

23rd October 2009, 18:42

oh....thats just nasty......:pinch:

nothing wrong with nasty rrrrrruuuffff;):lol:

Waihou Thumper

23rd October 2009, 18:59

Well done Iain, hope i can be so blessed when comes time to part with 'darkie'?:calm:

For Sale
990 Ag bike, good for milking, tons torque, can follow the cows and at the same time be comfy....Fuel range a worry, might get you back to the milking shed but I will include a gerry can for the lucky purchaser.
One owner, careful dairy farmer, well travelled! Must sell to a good home.
Lovely Anthracite colour, very trendy...Can deliver as long as it is within 285km, no, wait for it....275km...umm, nope, better come and pick it up, I am not sure about the fuel situation.....BUT, will help you load it on trailer....:dodge::2thumbsup

BMWST?

23rd October 2009, 19:00

Thanks to those of you who expressed an interest and made the process entertaining, the 990 is happliy sliding its way south from Jaffa land as I type.

glad you finally sold the 990 Iain.Looked a very good buy!

Eddieb

23rd October 2009, 19:07

For Sale
990 Ag bike, good for milking, tons torque, can follow the cows and at the same time be comfy....Fuel range a worry, might get you back to the milking shed but I will include a gerry can for the lucky purchaser.
One owner, careful dairy farmer, well travelled! Must sell to a good home.
Lovely Anthracite colour, very trendy...Can deliver as long as it is within 285km, no, wait for it....275km...umm, nope, better come and pick it up, I am not sure about the fuel situation.....BUT, will help you load it on trailer....:dodge::2thumbsup

:clap: :rofl:

young1

26th October 2009, 14:50

Thanks to those of you who expressed an interest and made the process entertaining, the 990 is happliy sliding its way south from Jaffa land as I type.

A Kiwibiker?

Crisis management

27th October 2009, 06:28

A Kiwibiker?

No, not anyone I know but it's a small world so we may see the bike around.

marks

27th October 2009, 07:08

No, not anyone I know but it's a small world so we may see the bike around.

a synopsis please of why the 'holy grail of adventure bikes' was not for you?

and how do you compare your 640 to your old dr650?

cooneyr

27th October 2009, 12:18

....and how do you compare your 950 to your old dr650?

Just back from a 1500km weekend with lots of seal, gravel, dirt, mud, river crossings, steep hills, riding in the dark over a track that was rutted, bog holes, steep gravel climbs and decents, wash outs, drop offs over bed rock steps yadda yadda yadda. All this will carrying full panniers and a tent and bed roll straped on the tail rack. For me (I'm 6'2" and 110kg) the 950 is THE bike to have. It went like a dream and took it all in its stride. Yes I would have been easier/faster on a road bike on the road, an enduro bike on the tracks and a 650ish on the gravel but for a do it all bike it's awesome.

Sorry off topic but this was just too good of an opportunity to rave! I had a great weekend despite the 380kms of riding up the seal in the pissing rain yesterday afternoon.

Cheers R

junkmanjoe

27th October 2009, 16:01

Just back from a 1500km weekend with lots of seal, gravel, dirt, mud, river crossings, steep hills, riding in the dark over a track that was rutted, bog holes, steep gravel climbs and decents, wash outs, drop offs over bed rock steps yadda yadda yadda. All this will carrying full panniers and a tent and bed roll straped on the tail rack. the 950 is THE bike to have.
Cheers R

Sounds like poetry in motion......:drool:.................

JMJ

Crisis management

27th October 2009, 20:36

a synopsis please of why the 'holy grail of adventure bikes' was not for you?

and how do you compare your 640 to your old dr650?

This won't get me into any trouble will it??? :whistle:

Ok, Holy Grailers to this side, defenders of the DR to that side…..

The first comment I have is more to do with the nature of Adventure riding, the huge amount of compromise that’s involved trying to find the perfect bike or least annoying compromised bit. For me (fairly obviously now) the ideal bike is around a 650 as I like to be able to take myself anywhere I want and to be able to extract myself afterwards so big, heavy bikes don’t work for me, I only weight 70 kgs and can’t pick the bastards up. The compromise really bits because of living in Auckland and the road distances that need to be covered to get anywhere interesting, that’s how I ended up with the 990.

Anywho to get onto some sort of topic, the DR650 was great for of road and reasonable for on road with limited suspension, seat and range but at a price that makes it a good basic bike, it coped averagely with the off road stuff but didn’t really set my heart singing due to the build quality and basic construction.

The 990, bought to cover road miles better but overpowered me in the off road stuff. It is a great road bike and long distance consumer, eats gravel with a howling exhaust and on open terrain is great off road. The limitations I encountered were in tight roads and tight off road conditions. The bike is capable of all this stuff but I found it hard work to change direction (lots of weight to move around) and limiting in the places I could go safely as I couldn’t pick it up. The big annoyances for me were the fuel range, the slightly twitchy fueling off idle and the wind buffeting, the last being areal pain in the arse. So, lots of fun on the road, on gravel and open fire roads stuff but not so fun in tight stuff.

I like doing the tight stuff…..this point is what got me back to the mid sized bikes.

The 640 covers most bases, it’s great off road and I can safely take it anywhere solo so I have my freedom back. The fuel range is good, the suspension wonderful and the power adequate, about the same as the DR bottom end with a bit more up top. Road miles still hurt a bit and I can see me choosing carefully which route I will take, having said that, the last 42 crossing event I left Auckland at 6, got to National Park at 10, did Fishers and the 42nd and was a bit tired but not sore that night.

As I said at the start, it’s about compromise and a couple of good examples are the following; I’m doing the Far North adventure ride in December and know I can have a decent go at the trail bike part of that ride on the 640, it’s the perfect bike for this.
Conversely, I was thinking of doing the Marlborough safari next year but would rather have the 990 for that due to the distance to cover to get there, the 640 needs more time to travel to make the trip enjoyable.

So, all good bikes in part, choose your poison.

warewolf

29th October 2009, 20:52

Conversely, I was thinking of doing the Marlborough safari next year but would rather have the 990 for that due to the distance to cover to get there, the 640 needs more time to travel to make the trip enjoyable.Amen, but it's oh so enjoyable :2thumbsup The hard part about WLG/AKL on a 640 is it is such a long tiring day, 'cos of all the gravel detours along the way. Definitely NOT a case of the shortest most direct route.

Most of the reasons you list are exactly why I never went down the 950 route in the first place. Can't say I've regretted that decision. Would love to have one for everywhere I'd take a soft-roader, but I simply don't have the skillz or the brawn to take such a big beastie trail-riding.

Padmei

30th October 2009, 17:43

Waihou Thumper

31st October 2009, 03:28

The 'vibes' from the 640A. The first time I rode one, I thought OMG, that is bad news, all the way down through my boots...The second time I rode one, it wasn't noticeable really, get it into top gear and she is smoothe.
Once my hands go to sleep, everything is fine after that...:laugh:
These bikes certainly aren't as bad as the early ones as they have the counter thingy in them now...:)
The WP suspension is great, it has saved me a few times....

Waihou Thumper

31st October 2009, 03:35

The 640 covers most bases, it’s great off road and I can safely take it anywhere solo so I have my freedom back. The fuel range is good,

Conversely, I was thinking of doing the Marlborough safari next year but would rather have the 990 for that due to the distance to cover to get there, the 640 needs more time to travel to make the trip enjoyable.

So, all good bikes in part, choose your poison.

The 640A, im my mind is perfect for the longer trips and covering the distance. 1000Km days aren't an issue, metal roads and tar seal. I do take breaks and stand on the pegs, and as long as my Ipod still has the life in it, I keep going.
That is the thing with the fuel range, you tend to go further afield and stop less often, I think that is a bonus.
The 640 may take more time to get there, but not by much, and at the end of the day, you will still have gas in the tank and won't be walking with a can....:eek:
I have had both bikes and what was quoted before is right on the button, but having said that, I often think what would it be like on the 990 riding this track etc and am glad I have the smaller beastie.
I ride frequently with A 990A and have to hang back sometimes, not much fun getting peppered with chunks of mother Earth....:laugh:

Crisis management

31st October 2009, 16:02

Great synopsis Crisis. How about the vibes from the 640? Ridden a few & the owners don't notice them anymore? Is your experience the same?

I do love watching the WP suspenders go to work on ruff stuff. They look horn.

Not known as the paint shaker for nothing (Mark's a bastard)....yes they do vibrate but from my brief reading about them careful tuning, chain adjustment etc will get rid of a lot of them. Ask me again in 6 months.

The vibration however is simply a part of the bike rather than a problem, its the same as DRs blow 3rd gear....part of the experience.

Waihou Thumper

31st October 2009, 16:04

Not known as the paint shaker for nothing (Mark's a bastard)....yes they do vibrate but from my brief reading about them careful tuning, chain adjustment etc will get rid of a lot of them. Ask me again in 6 months.

The vibration however is simply a part of the bike rather than a problem, its the same as DRs blow 3rd gear....part of the experience.

yes, it isn't an issue, just a nice trait....WHEN it stops doing that, worry....:gob:

junkmanjoe

31st October 2009, 16:31

ride what you want..dosnt mater what other people say...

at least you cant hear it passing cars 3 km in front....:shutup:

Fluffy Cat

31st October 2009, 16:52

Good thread the 640a looks a cool bike. And you guys are right the fuel range on the 990 is ummm....crap. I managed 200k's on a full tank before the warning light came on, the reserve will get me 40 to 50k,s more but its still bad. Then again it was good fun burning it. Could do with a 30l tank. Then it would be a bitch to pick up. Hou much does 30l of gas weigh?.

Waihou Thumper

31st October 2009, 17:00

of water....30Kg give or take....given the density etc...:yes:

Eddieb

31st October 2009, 18:16

of water....30Kg give or take....given the density etc...:yes:

I think 1 litre of petrol is supposed to be something like .72kg so a bit less.

Still heavy though.

200Km's off the full 20-odd litres? I hope that was a lot of fun.

dino3310

2nd November 2009, 14:36

Waihou Thumper

5th November 2009, 14:45

just a tad over 20kgs

1 litre of water equals 1Kg, so petrol is lighter in density? Not that it really matters, just interested is all...:Offtopic:

dino3310

5th November 2009, 14:56

1 litre of water equals 1Kg, so petrol is lighter in density? Not that it really matters, just interested is all...:Offtopic:

yep the petrolium is lighter than water, thats why you see the water sitting on the bottom of the lawnmower tank after the kids poor some in:doh:

Waihou Thumper

5th November 2009, 14:58

Thanks...:blink: interesting..

BMWST?

5th November 2009, 15:23

Thanks...:blink: interesting..

its why oil slicks float on top of teh water....

Waihou Thumper

5th November 2009, 15:29

dino3310

5th November 2009, 17:07

dont quote me on this but i THINK petrol is 18% lighter than water per litre

Taz

5th November 2009, 18:45

Might fill my radiator with petrol to save on weight....

BMWST?

5th November 2009, 19:54

I know that, but I didnt think think the volume would equate to a lighter amount etc...
So, oil and deisel is the same...
Where are these boffins to give us some figures...?
i.e. 0.15% lighter or sommit....
I wonder how much lighter it all is?

Diesel is derived from petroleum like gasoline is. Its density is 850 gms/liter whilst the density of gasoline is about 720 gms/ liter.
Water of course is 1000 gm per liter

NordieBoy

5th November 2009, 20:02

Diesel is derived from petroleum like gasoline is. Its density is 850 gms/liter whilst the density of gasoline is about 720 gms/ liter.
Water of course is 1000 gm per liter

What about heavy water?

JATZ

5th November 2009, 20:13

What about heavy water?

Heavy water ? :gob:

do tell o wise one.........

Squiggles

5th November 2009, 20:32

What about heavy water?

1.1056 g/mL as a liquid @ 20 degrees Celsius

johannvr

5th November 2009, 20:49

Glad I ride a DR - air even lighter than water. or fuel.

warewolf

5th November 2009, 21:42

I know that, but I didnt think think the volume would equate to a lighter amount etc...
So, oil and deisel is the same...
Where are these boffins to give us some figures...?
i.e. 0.15% lighter or sommit....
I wonder how much lighter it all is?What is heavier? A tonne of lead or a tonne of feathers? :innocent:

Google is your friend (http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=density+of+diesel). Also, a set of good kitchen scales. I measured 1L of 95RON = 736g. There's no fixed amount; different fuels have different densities... oils ain't oils.

Denser water sinks to the bottom of fuel & oil. So if you get water in your carb or sump, one trick to remove most of it is to crack open the drain plug - the water will be sitting at the plug, ie the lowest point in the system - and let the water seep out. When you get oil/fuel coming out, tighten it back up. This is a trail-side technique to de-water a bike after a dunking.

Waihou Thumper

6th November 2009, 06:40

Was that before or after making the Scones for me birthday mate? (twas yesterday)
:yes: Good keen man, thanks! :)

Woodman

6th November 2009, 19:15

Was that before or after making the Scones for me birthday mate? (twas yesterday)
:yes: Good keen man, thanks! :)

Was it your birthday yesterday???

Waihou Thumper

6th November 2009, 19:27

Was it your birthday yesterday???

Yep mate....you all missed the party...
See my cake above post...:woohoo:

NordieBoy

6th November 2009, 19:47

Was it your birthday yesterday???

I didn't see anything on TV about it?

Woodman

6th November 2009, 19:49

I didn't see anything on TV about it?

The town cryer never mentioned it either. Thats why I asked

warewolf

7th November 2009, 20:01

Was that before or after making the Scones for me birthday mate? (twas yesterday)Well Happy Birthday! for yesterday :woohoo:

Those scales were bought for the garage and almost never see the kitchen :yes: When cooking, near enough is good enough; but when weighing bike doo-dads I want good data :o

Woodman

8th November 2009, 21:02

warewolf

8th November 2009, 21:19

Sorry to hijack the thread, but one of my staff needs a new battery for his 950 supermoto. The yuasa number is ytz14s. ytz14 is common but the s stands for short as it is a bit shorter to fit the katooms.

Does any of you ktm guys know where to get em a bit cheaper than the dealer.Try batterydirect (http://www.batterydirect.co.nz/motor_cycles.htm); their prices are supposed to pretty good. Haven't used them myself but they've been commended to me. Haven't used them because the battery for the 640A is a YTZ10S... yep, the most expensive one listed at $367:gob:, another "S" variant that's shorter than all the others.

Comparing prices on a USA site, the 640A battery is US$225, the 950SM is US$265. That means the 950SM Yuasa battery is likely NZ$425-450 from batterydirect, if they can get it.

If no-one has a ready answer, try Orange Crush (http://www.advrider.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=34) to see if there is a known alternative. There are a couple of much cheaper batteries (like half price) of similar or better quality, that have dimensions that can be made to fit the 640A.