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James Deuce

5th September 2009, 08:38

dino3310

5th September 2009, 08:53

agreed, bring back logans run

oldrider

5th September 2009, 09:04

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2836691/Girl-in-pram-flung-20m-by-car

Bring back regular testing of OAPs. Bring back Logan's Run.

The thing that I've noticed over the years is that OAP's literally don't care who they hurt. Only their stuff is important. Yes, that is a general sweeping statement, but even when they get to court, nobody spanks them for their mistakes and they never say sorry. They don't pay fines or restitution either. They just die and leave it up to you to claim it from their estate knowing full well the expense and hassle isn't worth it for the miniscule fine that was handed out.

Pretty sweeping statements there all right Jim but I have to agree with your sentiments!

I think if I remember, Logan's run kicked in at about your own age, so what's that tell you! :whistle:

OAP's should be required to maintain a practicing motorcycle licence as a prerequisite for their car licences!

Actually, it should be a prerequisite for "all" drivers licences! (IMHO)

"Police are still considering whether to lay charges." What the f**k is there to think about? :argh:

James Deuce

5th September 2009, 09:08

I think if I remember, Logan's run kicked in at about your own age, so what's that tell you! :whistle:

30 years old actually, so I'd be long dead. :)

They moved your cottage mate. I'm going to get down there and get some pictures later today.

wbks

5th September 2009, 09:17

Wats logans run?

Big Dave

5th September 2009, 09:32

Wats logans run?

A lame movie that achieved cult status. Everyone over 30 is regenerated.

rainman

5th September 2009, 09:49

A lame movie that achieved cult status. Everyone over 30 is regenerated.

"Regenerated" isn't the word I'd have used... :whistle:

oldrider

5th September 2009, 09:51

30 years old actually, so I'd be long dead. :)

They moved your cottage mate. I'm going to get down there and get some pictures later today.

Where have they put it?

My Brother will also be interested in that, must tell him today! :2thumbsup Thank's Jim.

Donor

5th September 2009, 09:52

"Regenerated" isn't the word I'd have used... :whistle:

Life clocks are a lie! Carousel is a lie! There is no renewal!

Kickaha

5th September 2009, 10:00

Life clocks are a lie! Carousel is a lie! There is no renewal!

NO! Don't go in there! You don't have to die! No one has to die at 30! You could live! LIVE! Live, and grow old! I've seen it! She's seen it!

Donor

5th September 2009, 10:09

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Maha

5th September 2009, 10:14

Wats logans run?

This may or may not jog your memory...

Big Dave

5th September 2009, 10:20

They are memories better not jogged. Unless you think it is so Hokey now it's hilarious.

In the case of the OP. Mother fail.

Paul in NZ

5th September 2009, 10:21

My dads 88. He has days when hes fine to drive and days where he isn't. Problem is, he is still in the family home and apart from an uber expensive taxi, there are no other options to go out and get supplies etc. Half the family life away from the home town so its not always possible to get family support.

Logans run does exist except its a system of passive neglect and economic beggary rather than active regeneration.

However - even at 88 Bertie still has the high sense of moral and social responsibility common to his generation and he would be utterly distraught had he been responible for this. Given the irresponsibility of motorcyclists in many cases, I think this post is just a little ironic...

Kickaha

5th September 2009, 10:22

The weapon (http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dimension/5357/gun.htm)

"I've never killed in my life. Sandmen terminate runners.":2guns:

http://www.snowcrest.net/fox/logan/costumes/costumes.html
http://www.snowcrest.net/fox/logan2/gun.htm

Big Dave

5th September 2009, 10:24

Given the irresponsibility of motorcyclists in many cases, I think this post is just a little ironic...

You've read too much Katman.

Donor

5th September 2009, 10:33

Given the irresponsibility of motorcyclists in many cases, I think this post is just a little ironic...

Given the population is ageing rapidly, soon the oldies will vastly outnumber mad bikers anyways... in fact, they may even be part of the Great Natural Selection Solution to thin out the biker gene pool!

James Deuce

5th September 2009, 11:55

My Grandad ditched his license at 84 and sold his one year old car. He noticed he wasn't paying as much attention as he should and he was driving 20 km/h under every speed limit he saw.

Skyryder

5th September 2009, 14:41

Well it's a different take from where it was her fault for speeding just by being a passanger in the car. Now she does not even have to be in the vehicle.:girlfight::angry2::crybaby:

Skyryder

slofox

5th September 2009, 14:48

Wats logans run?

A lame movie that achieved cult status. Everyone over 30 is regenerated.

Logan's Run was, as is so often the case, a book before it was a movie...and as is also so often the case, it was a better book than movie....

bogan

5th September 2009, 16:03

they better grind up the old codgers license. I always check pedestrian crossing a good half dozen times, specially in the cage, theres no excuse for not stopping for someone.

Kickaha

5th September 2009, 16:22

Logan's Run was, as is so often the case, a book before it was a movie...and as is also so often the case, it was a better book than movie....

More than just one book in that series to, I think I have all three

Blackbird

5th September 2009, 17:06

Given the population is ageing rapidly, soon the oldies will vastly outnumber mad bikers anyways... in fact, they may even be part of the Great Natural Selection Solution to thin out the biker gene pool!

At 62 next month, I'm trying to do both:whistle: The only person I'll be running down is Mr Deuce for impertinence but I'll make sure it's in the 4x4 so it's quick and painless:2thumbsup

Oh, and I won't be hanging around the scene to get caught ;-)

Usarka

5th September 2009, 17:24

A lame movie that achieved cult status. Everyone over 30 is regenerated.

A movie been it may have, but an awesome TV show was it.

Kickaha

5th September 2009, 17:25

but an awesome TV show was it.

Why yes it was

James Deuce

5th September 2009, 18:54

gegvasco

5th September 2009, 19:33

What I find amazing is that the Police are only "considering" whether to charge him. He hit a kid in a pram on a pedestrian crossing FFS! And he even admits he was at fault. How can he not be charged. I wonder if they would be still "considering" laying charges if it had been a 17 year-old or a rich business man or a motorcyclist on a litre sports bike.

oldrider

6th September 2009, 08:57

At 62 next month, I'm trying to do both:whistle: The only person I'll be running down is Mr Deuce for impertinence but I'll make sure it's in the 4x4 so it's quick and painless:2thumbsup

Oh, and I won't be hanging around the scene to get caught ;-)

Don't worry BB, at 62 you are on the fringe of not knowing "who you are", let alone being able to identify a pedestrian crossing or Mr Deuce! :lol:

I'm OK so far but what's a 4X4? :Oops:

Happy fathers day to all those who qualify. :banana:

I am off for a loop ride around through Waimate Timaru Temuka Geraldine and back via the MacKenzie, Fairly Tekapo Twizel Omarama and home again!

What more could one ask for, cracker looking day and all!

Did the same last fathers day and had a chat with :Police:...wished me happy fathers day, as is their want!

I will try not to think of Logan and his run today and promise to behave at pedestrian crossings, chow all, have a good day! :2thumbsup

The Stranger

6th September 2009, 09:12

However - even at 88 Bertie still has the high sense of moral and social responsibility common to his generation and he would be utterly distraught had he been responible for this. Given the irresponsibility of motorcyclists in many cases, I think this post is just a little ironic...

Yes, he may well have a high sense of moral and social responsibility and be utterly distraught etc, however IF he is incompetent (and not saying he is) and kills someone then that really counts for little does it? So why not confirm his competency now and then, particularly at a time in life when this is prone to reducing.

As for the irresponsibility of motorcyclists, by and large, they only hurt themselves (yes I know there are exceptions) that is a big difference.

slowpoke

6th September 2009, 09:15

The ol' bugger didn't do anything that a younger driver hasn't done, so I'm not sure that age has got a lot to do with it. I'm dumbfounded the stupid woman pushed a kid in front of a car that she obviously wasn't even watching.

After spending many years in Oz where cars stopping for pedestrians is NOT the norm, I can't believe how many people just rock up to a pedestrian crossing in NZ and step in front of cars without looking. Darwin will sort 'em out I guess.

Blackbird

6th September 2009, 09:16

Don't worry BB, at 62 you are on the fringe of not knowing "who you are", let alone being able to identify a pedestrian crossing or Mr Deuce! :lol:

I'm OK so far but what's a 4X4? :Oops:

Happy fathers day to all those who qualify. :banana:

I am off for a loop ride around through Waimate Timaru Temuka Geraldine and back via the MacKenzie, Fairly Tekapo Twizel Omarama and home again!

What more could one ask for, cracker looking day and all!

Did the same last fathers day and had a chat with :Police:...wished me happy fathers day, as is their want!

I will try not to think of Logan and his run today and promise to behave at pedestrian crossings, chow all, have a good day! :2thumbsup

Hahahahaha:2thumbsup. Well if I can't identify James, then I'd better play safe and aim for EVERY pedestrian. 4x4: it's wot tows my boat, not really for maiming pedestrians.

Happy Fathers Day to you too John and everyone else. Day started well with a fancy ceramic thingy for cooking pizzas on from my daughter and a new filleting knife from Mrs B. Nothing from the boys as they're both overseas.

Have a great ride. I'm celebrating with a run out shortly, probably with the esteemed Chooky. Whilst most bikes are streaming onto the Coro Peninsula on such a perfect day, I'll head off it into the Waikato and the Okoroire Pub for lunch, then the Coro Loop on the way home. Hopefully, if I get pulled by the HWP, I'll get my helmet off fast so they can take pity on an old fella!

Be safe everyone!

Geoff

James Deuce

6th September 2009, 13:13

slowpoke

6th September 2009, 13:56

The silly old bugger slowed down then sped up as she pushed the pram out.

Clearly a ploy to tempt those who stepped off the evolutionary tree at a less than optimum height. She wasn't even watching the car she pushed a pram in front of.....would you push a child into traffic without checking they had actually stopped? Is that how you'd teach kids to cross a road?

The old blokes name wasn't Darwin was it? Relation maybe? He may have gotten frustrated with the slow pace of evolution and decided to help it along a bit.

Nah, I'm not saying the old boy wasn't at fault, but the woman pushing the pram isn't blameless.

Big Dave

6th September 2009, 15:02

The silly old bugger slowed down then sped up as she pushed the pram out.

I don't know about you guys but I never pushed my kids stroller on to the road till the cars were stopped and the cars behind them were stopped and I had eyeballed the drivers. Seriously. And then I walked beside it.

oldrider

6th September 2009, 20:32

Don't worry BB, at 62 you are on the fringe of not knowing "who you are", let alone being able to identify a pedestrian crossing or Mr Deuce! :lol:

I'm OK so far but what's a 4X4? :Oops:

Happy fathers day to all those who qualify. :banana:

I am off for a loop ride around through Waimate Timaru Temuka Geraldine and back via the MacKenzie, Fairly Tekapo Twizel Omarama and home again!

What more could one ask for, cracker looking day and all!

Did the same last fathers day and had a chat with :Police:...wished me happy fathers day, as is their want!

I will try not to think of Logan and his run today and promise to behave at pedestrian crossings, chow all, have a good day! :2thumbsup

I realise this is not a "ride report" thread but as I did raise the point here, suffice to say!

233 miles of (fathers day) motorcycling utopia, there surely must be a God!

I was very, very, careful around pedestrian crossings, didn't see one pram or pushchair!

Bloody hell we live in an absolute picturesque paradise, some of the scenes on my ride today were awe inspiring to say the least!

Missed my chat with :Police: but he was very much in evidence and had other motorists he seemed to prefer entertaining, thankfully!

Left at 10:10 home at 18:10 (6:10pm)

Was quite cold first thing and later this evening but what a fantastic ride, Mount Cook area across Pukaki was as good as I have ever seen it tonight and the reflections in Benmore were amazingly clear!

Didn't think about Logan all day! :oi-grr:

James, did you manage to get any pics of the cottage yet? :2thumbsup

You certainly have sent our family into a fit of interest! :niceone::first: Thanks!

James Deuce

7th September 2009, 08:52

James, did you manage to get any pics of the cottage yet? :2thumbsup

You certainly have sent our family into a fit of interest! :niceone::first: Thanks!

I hope this is the right cottage :)

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=107148

oldrider

7th September 2009, 09:56

I hope this is the right cottage :)

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=107148

My older brother told me I wouldn't recognise that area any more! (not many can apparently)

Not exactly sure if that is the cottage, (very similar) the only thing I recognise is that sign saying Percy reserve!

Last time up there I had difficulty finding my way around at all, it's changed so much since I lived there!

Well it "was" 1960 when I left, (49 years ago, I was 21), time sure flies when you are having fun!

I have great memories of my time living there! (1955-1960)

Thanks for posting the pics Jim. :2thumbsup

James Deuce

7th September 2009, 10:25

The Percy Reserve sign is where the cottage used to be. I'm pretty certain it's the same one you talked about, but I guess that road widening and the new interchange have both conspired to make the area look quite foreign.

The new carpark for Percy Reserve will be a great meeting point for rides though.

Big Dave

7th September 2009, 10:28

The new carpark for Percy Reserve will be a great meeting point for rides though.

I don't think that pointing people at the Percy is how it goes.

oldrider

7th September 2009, 13:36

I don't think that pointing people at the Percy is how it goes.

The Percy I know best did a bit of work in the gardens there, it was a choice wee spot for such things back then.

Percy was definitely pointing at people on those occasions!

(ladies who shall remain anonymous, it could be someone's great granny now!) :calm: