It's official-he/she's...

[Elysium]

...an hermaphrodite
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/2854332/Caster-Semenyas-sex-stripped-bare/

[Taz]

Who cares? She can still run fast and she won.

[Flatcap]

Who cares? She can still run fast and she won.

But she's got testicles....

[EJK]

How about Bolts? Is he half-cheeta half-man?

[Taz]

But she's got testicles....

But you can't see them.............

[Flatcap]

But you can't see them.............

....poking out my mind's eye now....

[Elysium]

But you can't see them.............

You don't need to. The extra testosterone gives an unfair advantage let alone better muscle build.

[SlideMoto]

Poor bitch has proberly been ridiculled her whole life without knowing and now shes got all this to deal with.

[Zerker]

"These tests do not suggest any suspicion of deliberate misconduct but seek to assess the possibility of a potential medical condition which would give Semenya an unfair advantage over her competitors. There is no automatic disqualification of results in a case like this."

so the flash could compete?

it's like a case of an overactive adrenaline gland, the competitor knows nothing about it, but they have more of the drug in their system than other competitors and gain an unfair but natural advantage.

I say let her keep the gold, and award a second gold to the silver medal winner.

as to her continuing to compete, it's unfair to ask her to compete with the men, but it's also unfair to ask the women to compete against her.


Poor bitch has proberly been ridiculled her whole life without knowing and now shes got all this to deal with.

plus she has also found out she is sterile. she can't produce semen, and can not produce eggs.

[Headbanger]

She could always go onto a career in really fucked up porn.

[ManDownUnder]

Poor bitch has proberly been ridiculled her whole life without knowing and now shes got all this to deal with.

+1

Exactly right. Leave them alone.

[Laava]

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[Forest]

You don't need to. The extra testosterone gives an unfair advantage let alone better muscle build.

Michael Phelps has an almost perfect build for swimming.

Does that give him an unfair advantage over everyone else?

[duckonin]

In diff ways life can be a bitch in it's own way to us all...Let her keep the Medals..:whocares: I'm off 4 a :scooter:

[NDORFN]

I give her a month at the most before the tops herself. Poor dude/dudette.

[SMOKEU]

The kaffirs can all run fast because they learn to run away from the cops from an early age, that's why the have the advantages of speed and stamina.

[Jonno.]

Michael Phelps has an almost perfect build for swimming.

Does that give him an unfair advantage over everyone else?

Advantage yes but it's not the same as competing in woman's events when you have a mans testosterone levels.

[Forest]

Advantage yes but it's not the same as competing in woman's events when you have a mans testosterone levels.

She doesn't have a man's testosterone levels.

Men have between 40-60 times as much testosterone as women.

[Elysium]

She doesn't have a man's testosterone levels.

Men have between 40-60 times as much testosterone as women.

How do you know her/his levels?

[Forest]

How do you know her/his levels?

It has been widely reported in the media that she has 3 times the testosterone level of a normal woman.

Given that men have 40-60 times as much testosterone as women, it seems pretty clear that she only has 5-8% of the testosterone level of a normal man.

[avgas]

typical women whinging.
fact of the matter is that the other female competitors got beat. Seems that women with all their power in the world cant handle this.
2 things ladies - either suck it up and say guys are better and i will say that the gold has to go to the first women.
Or else piss off. Having your cake and eating it doesn't happen in the real world.

If all things were "equal" men and women would have the same event. Your just bitter cos now guys cut your hair and design your fashion lol

[Flatcap]

Perhaps there needs to be Men, Women, and Hermatermaphoids divisions at the olympics

[ready4whatever]

At the end of the day its a womans race. This runner has testicles. by the way he/she looks like Omarion

[cs363]

+1

Exactly right. Leave them alone.

+ 2 Feel bloody sorry for her, the one good big thing that happens in her life and all these haters are just sticking the knife in. Fuck it's only athletics.....
now if someone was using illegal fuel in MotoGP that would be whole different kettle of fish... :whistle:

[oldguy]

+ 2 Feel bloody sorry for her, the one good big thing that happens in her life and all these haters are just sticking the knife in. Fuck it's only athletics.....
now if someone was using illegal fuel in MotoGP that would be whole different kettle of fish... :whistle:

+3, it should never have got this far, why didn't they bring there concerns up before she competed, no one said anything till she started winning.
she entered as a female competitor, and was excepted as a female competitor
end of story.
Having a higher testosterone level doesn't maker her a man, unusual yes but man no.
all these women that got beaten by her, would easily beat me by a country mile. does that make me a girl.

[tide]

The kaffirs can all run fast because they learn to run away from the cops from an early age, that's why the have the advantages of speed and stamina.

That is uncalled for dude... and not ever remotely funny... red for you...

ps I'm a Saffa if you are wondering...

[Flatcap]

all these women that got beaten by her, would easily beat me by a country mile. does that make me a girl.


No, it makes you a slow old fat bastard

[davebullet]

Reminds me of man bear pig. Half man, half bear and half pig.

[SixPackBack]

The real question is can he/she/it fuck themselves??

[enigma51]

Its cause she black isnt it?

[SixPackBack]

Its cause she black isnt it?

:jerry::jerry::jerry::jerry:................

[SMOKEU]

That is uncalled for dude... and not ever remotely funny... red for you...

ps I'm a Saffa if you are wondering...

We both know the truth, stop trying to deny it. I left Cape Town to come to NZ because of all the dangerous kaffirs who kept stealing our shit.

[short-circuit]

We both know the truth, stop trying to deny it. I left Cape Town to come to NZ because of all the dangerous kaffirs who kept stealing our shit.

As ye sow, so shall ye reap

[SMOKEU]

And for those of you who think I'm a racist prick, don't judge me on that until you've gone to South Africa. We get it easy in NZ. In SA several times we have caught niggas in our house stealing our shit. Can't have a nice patio lamp, because it gets stolen. Can't have a garden shed because it gets stolen. Can't have a garden sprinkler, because it gets stolen. Can't grow veggies in the front yard, because they get stolen. Can't have a pet cow, because it gets stolen. Can't even have a cheap nasty tape deck in your car, because it will get stolen.

[short-circuit]

And for those of you who think I'm a racist prick, don't judge me on that until you've gone to South Africa. We get it easy in NZ. In SA several times we have caught niggas in our house stealing our shit. Can't have a nice patio lamp, because it gets stolen. Can't have a garden shed because it gets stolen. Can't have a garden sprinkler, because it gets stolen. Can't grow veggies in the front yard, because they get stolen. Can't have a pet cow, because it gets stolen. Can't even have a cheap nasty tape deck in your car, because it will get stolen.

They should've just been good, compliant little slaves and left you content in a lifestyle you were never really entitled too eh?

[SMOKEU]

They should've just been good, compliant little slaves and left you content in a lifestyle you were never really entitled too eh?

Name 1 country where at least 90% of the population is black (Asians excluded) that is rich and prosperous with a low crime rate.

[short-circuit]

Name 1 country where at least 90% of the population is black (Asians excluded) that is rich and prosperous with a low crime rate.

Go back and enjoy the basketcase that you and your people were responsible for creating

[SMOKEU]

Go back and enjoy the basketcase that you and your people were responsible for creating

I could say the same thing to you

[Elysium]

Well anyway I see South African offcials playing the race card and claim everyone is racist bla, bla, bla even though its gender we're all talking about.

[short-circuit]

I could say the same thing to you

I'm here co-existing happily thanks.

I'd rather be around any Tongan, Maori, Indian, Chinese, Brit, hell even a fucken Yank (of any colour) than your "breed" of South African

[Forest]

Name 1 country where at least 90% of the population is black (Asians excluded) that is rich and prosperous with a low crime rate.

The Cayman Islands has the 12th highest GDP per capita in the world (NZ is 38th). Around 80% of the population is of African descent.

The British Virgin Islands has the 18th highest GDP per capita in the world and 83.4% of the population is of African descent.

Note: These figures are from the CIA global factbook.

[Hitcher]

Point 1: Caster Semenya isn't hermaphrodite. That's just sloppy reporting. An hermaphrodite has both male and female genitalia. She would better be described as "intersex".

Point 2: Caster is the victim here. She grew up believing herself to be a woman and probably had no reason to suspect otherwise.

Point 3: Given that there is no cheating involved, she should be allowed to keep her medals.

Point 4: Her competitive running days are over. I feel sorry for her. I hope she gets support from sport administrators, friends and family.

[SMOKEU]

I'm here co-existing happily thanks.

I'd rather be around any Tongan, Maori, Indian, Chinese, Brit, hell even a fucken Yank (of any colour) than your "breed" of South African

You have no fucking clue do you mate? Get the fuck off your lazy ass, travel the world and discover the facts of life before you start telling me bullshit stories about what you think you fucking know man. You think you know it all (like most New Zealanders) but you don't.

[Indiana_Jones]

Go back and enjoy the basketcase that you and your people were responsible for creating


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[short-circuit]

You have no fucking clue do you mate? Get the fuck off your lazy ass, travel the world and discover the facts of life before you start telling me bullshit stories about what you think you fucking know man. You think you know it all (like most New Zealanders) but you don't.

Pot calling the kettle black (no pun intended). Your making some hefty assumptions there my friend. I think it's you who is in need of a more balanced perspective.

Therapy is what you need for this - not more travel

[short-circuit]

Point 1: Caster Semenya isn't hermaphrodite. That's just sloppy reporting. An hermaphrodite has both male and female genitalia. She would better be described as "intersex".

Point 2: Caster is the victim here. She grew up believing herself to be a woman and probably had no reason to suspect otherwise.

Point 3: Given that there is no cheating involved, she should be allowed to keep her medals.

Point 4: Her competitive running days are over. I feel sorry for her. I hope she gets support from sport administrators, friends and family.


As for the topic at hand - this is absolutely spot on

[Dirty_Harri]

typical women whinging.
fact of the matter is that the other female competitors got beat. Seems that women with all their power in the world cant handle this.
2 things ladies - either suck it up and say guys are better and i will say that the gold has to go to the first women.
Or else piss off. Having your cake and eating it doesn't happen in the real world.

If all things were "equal" men and women would have the same event. Your just bitter cos now guys cut your hair and design your fashion lol

Congratulations, you have vast quantities of a naturally occurring hormone which makes you stronger and faster. Pity it doesn't make you smarter. :whistle:

[Pixie]

It has been widely reported in the media that she has 3 times the testosterone level of a normal woman.

Given that men have 40-60 times as much testosterone as women, it seems pretty clear that she only has 5-8% of the testosterone level of a normal man.

That 3x testosterone level has obviously developed a body that is more masculine than any normal woman.Taller,bigger muscle mass,more efficient muscle operation.
She has an unfair advantage

[enigma51]

As for the topic at hand - this is absolutely spot on

But if she was white no one would have said anything

[short-circuit]

But if she was white no one would have said anything

As has been pointed out already, the issue was one of gender not race.

Some opportunists (who I don't really think I need to name), have introduced race and racism into the thread for what reason I don't know. The only outcome of doing so (that I can see), has been a public declaration of their prejudice and ignorance.

[Forest]

That 3x testosterone level has obviously developed a body that is more masculine than any normal woman.Taller,bigger muscle mass,more efficient muscle operation.
She has an unfair advantage

Nonsense.

Here is a list of the fastest women's 800m times in history.



1 1:53.28 Jarmila Kratochvílová Czechoslovakia July 26, 1983 Munich
2 1:53.43 Nadezhda Olizarenko Soviet Union July 27, 1980 Moscow
3 1:54.01 Pamela Jelimo Kenya August 29, 2008 Zurich
4 1:54.44 Ana Fidelia Quirot Cuba September 9, 1989 Barcelona
5 1:54.81 Olga Mineyeva Soviet Union July 27, 1980 Moscow
6 1:54.94 Tatyana Kazankina Soviet Union July 26, 1976 Montreal
7 1:55.05 Doina Melinte Romania August 1, 1982 Bucharest
8 1:55.19 Maria de Lurdes Mutola Mozambique August 17, 1994 Zurich
Jolanda Ceplak Slovenia July 20, 2002 Heusden-Zolder
10 1:55.26 Sigrun Grau East Germany August 31, 1987 Rome


Notice something missing? Semenya isn't on the list.

Her time of 1:55.45 was the fastest pace recorded this year, but it wasn't enough to even feature in the top ten.