RUC goes up AGAIN

[CookMySock]

RUC fees are set to increase from 1 October 2009

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/commercial/ruc.html

Steve

[ManDownUnder]

Just a totally random question for a friend of mine... what are the fines for RUC being overdue by... say... 5,000kms on a 3.5tonne vehicle?

[Jizah]

Probably less than the fine for winding your speedo back.

[YellowDog]

Is this a bad thing?
(It is if you are in the haulage business)
Now the rail service has been nationalised, surely freight should be encouraged in that direction.

[dogsnbikes]

Just a totally random question for a friend of mine... what are the fines for RUC being overdue by... say... 5,000kms on a 3.5tonne vehicle?

works out to about 3 times the total value what is owing plus paying to bring it up to current

[ManDownUnder]

works out to about 3 times the total value what is owing plus paying to bring it up to current

Ta!!!!

Will be gleefully passed on...! :)

[Logpot]

Yep - it can work out to be bloody expensive. Best keep your RUCs up-to-date.

[James Deuce]

Is this a bad thing?
(It is if you are in the haulage business)
Now the rail service has been nationalised, surely freight should be encouraged in that direction.

Diesel passenger vehicles, post-2005 are the greenest vehicles on the planet. They should be exempt RUC.

[Big Dave]

It's those bastards on scooters fault. Eberyfing else is.

[FROSTY]

JD ya wanna rephrase that? :whistle: They will be once NZ gets into the 21st century and dumps the low sulphur diesel and runs with no sulpher diesel.

[James Deuce]

JD ya wanna rephrase that? :whistle: They will be once NZ gets into the 21st century and dumps the low sulphur diesel and runs with no sulpher diesel.


No. Even running on shitty diesel their fuel consumption figures make a lot of bikes, let alone other cars, look pretty pathetic. Burning less fuel is green, despite the fuel composition being less than adequate.

[SPman]

Why doesn't NZ do what the rest of the world does and just include RUC in diesel for up to say 3 tons. It would save a lot of pissing around for most users. Just stick the extra on top for heavier vehicles if they want to as a "weight tax" or summint.
And bugger the farmers - they can apply for a rebate if they want to!

[FROSTY]

Actually SP man I agree 100%
tax up front at the pump then HT and farmers claim it back -much better idea \

[ready4whatever]

Dont know about anybody else but I'm getting real pissed at the way things are going. seems like the rich are behind all these organizations and the average bugger like me is forced to pay them to keep going in life and we have no choice. Its the government, council etc how we have to pay rates on our own land else they take it from us. You can argue that its for public services but we dont use wheelie bins or any of their execuses they call reasons. council complain they have no money yet i see a new porsche parked outside. we cant win

[Clockwork]

Is there a requirement for a non-commercial vehicle to have a working odometer?

[CookMySock]

Is there a requirement for a non-commercial vehicle to have a working odometer?Yes, and severe penalties for non-compliance.


Dont know about anybody else but I'm getting real pissed at the way things are going[...]Fuck yeah. EVERYONE has just got to stick their finger in the fucking pie.

I wish there was a way to get around them.

Steve

[SMOKEU]

Might as well wind the odometer back to pay less money for RUCs.

[CookMySock]

Might as well wind the odometer back to pay less money for RUCs.Tempting innit, but very large penalties for that.

Steve

[Kiwi Graham]

Just a totally random question for a friend of mine... what are the fines for RUC being overdue by... say... 5,000kms on a 3.5tonne vehicle?

Not sure for overdue RUC on its own but I heard of a guy stung $2,400 for no WOF no Rego and out of date RUC by about the same amount as your 'friend' :whistle:

[Clockwork]

Yes, and severe penalties for non-compliance.

Steve

I've just looked up the requirements for a WOF and it lists speedometers only. There was nothing in there about odometers. So....??

[CookMySock]

I've just looked up the requirements for a WOF and it lists speedometers only. There was nothing in there about odometers. So....??You have to have a working odometer for a diesel fueled vehicle. Go look it up it bothers you. It doesn't bother me. If you want to test it out, pull your odometer out and go wave it under the fuzzs' nose and show them some attitude and tell us what happens. :lol:

Steve

[ukusa]

Might as well wind the odometer back to pay less money for RUCs.

Wind it back & see if they will pay you!

The greedy pricks, RUCs have nearley doubled in the last 5 years for me.

[Timber020]

I love paying $106 for a COF check so a failed mechanic can play lil hitler.

Lets see I havent ever been pulled up for a cof/ruc/rego check over the last 7 years

2 COF's per year @ 106 a time
rego about 400
Road users about a grand
cost per year to keep cof guys "happy" above practical safe maintainance $1000 per year

Over 3 trucks thats nearly 8k a year, thats 56k over 7 years! Hmmm I think I can make some savings by taking a bit of a risk.

[Kiwi Graham]

Lets see I havent ever been pulled up for a cof/ruc/rego check over the last 7 years



Go for a drive round the South Island for 10 days and you wont be saying that :(

[rebel]

I love paying $106 for a COF check so a failed mechanic can play lil hitler.

Lets see I havent ever been pulled up for a cof/ruc/rego check over the last 7 years

2 COF's per year @ 106 a time
rego about 400
Road users about a grand
cost per year to keep cof guys "happy" above practical safe maintainance $1000 per year

Over 3 trucks thats nearly 8k a year, thats 56k over 7 years! Hmmm I think I can make some savings by taking a bit of a risk.

I feel for ya... Im a truck mechanic, and the crap the station fails some of the trucks on is un believeable. (a cracked tail light lense FFS? A tear in a rubber mudflap, moisture in a side marker lamp, cuts in tyres from driving on gravel roads, the list goes on). Would like to see what the story was if they ran their own trucks.

[trustme]

I feel for ya... Im a truck mechanic, and the crap the station fails some of the trucks on is un believeable. (a cracked tail light lense FFS? A tear in a rubber mudflap, moisture in a side marker lamp, cuts in tyres from driving on gravel roads, the list goes on). Would like to see what the story was if they ran their own trucks.

+1 They are not consistant . You can go back for a recheck having made repairs & they will find something else.

Timber020, don't even think about it, they will catch you eventually & the fines will be substantial

[ready4whatever]

Would like to see what the story was if they ran their own trucks.

Had a mechanic who failed my ute on all sorts, while it was getting repaired i used their courtesy car, which funnily enough had a wof despite horn not working, bald tyres, windscreen wipers that would jam half way. what a sack

[SMOKEU]

On old vehicles it isn't that hard to wind the odometer back. A lot of the old Japanese cars that used to come in before the stupid fucking government changed the laws on importing vehicles had wound back odometers.

[sinfull]

Put the price of drills up, see if i care !!! The day i will worry is when the apprentice comes back with an excuse, rather than the long wait !!!

[Clockwork]

You have to have a working odometer for a diesel fueled vehicle. Go look it up it bothers you. It doesn't bother me. If you want to test it out, pull your odometer out and go wave it under the fuzzs' nose and show them some attitude and tell us what happens. :lol:

Steve

That's OK, I don't have a diesel vehicle. I was just wondering "out loud" and hoping to get an answer from a more credible poster than you!

[marty]

A lot of the old Japanese cars that used to come in before the stupid fucking government changed the laws on importing vehicles had wound back odometers.

really? surely not.

[Sidewinder]

disconnect the speedo

[Fatjim]

I can't believe you have to pay RUC on a Hyosung?

[sAsLEX]

Yep - it can work out to be bloody expensive. Best keep your RUCs up-to-date.


Tempting innit, but very large penalties for that.

Steve

How would they suspect or know if your careful and never go backwards in Ks.

I have "seen" a speedo being wound back and its fairly simple to do, 10k off in about ten minutes by hand leaving very little evidence.....

[trustme]

It will show up at COF time when the speedo or odometer milage is entered into the system , info goes straight to LTSA & you are caught.
I have had letters from LTSA re being out of RUC when I have had a COF issued. Once you are on their radar it is only a matter of time.LTSA look for anomolies & mileages that go backwards attract attention

[PeeJay]

It will show up at COF time when the speedo or odometer milage is entered into the system , info goes straight to LTSA & you are caught.
I have had letters from LTSA re being out of RUC when I have had a COF issued. Once you are on their radar it is only a matter of time.LTSA look for anomolies & mileages that go backwards attract attention

If you are stupid enough to wind your odo back so far that it has less km then the last time you went for a cof/wof you deserve to be caught. You should also be charged with being a dumbarse in charge of a drill. Or however its done nowadays.

[rebel]

It will show up at COF time when the speedo or odometer milage is entered into the system , info goes straight to LTSA & you are caught.
I have had letters from LTSA re being out of RUC when I have had a COF issued. Once you are on their radar it is only a matter of time.LTSA look for anomolies & mileages that go backwards attract attention


Not to mention LTSA and CVIUs record on what companies have repeated COF fails. The reason why large companies running the biggest pieces of shit get a maintenance check done first.

[Timber020]

Due to some Fwit in LTNZ deciding I had to have a goods and service license to run my truck and I couldnt get a COF without one (came up as a suprise to thousands of arborists, digger operators, plumbers, drainlayers, scaffolders, roofers etc who only found out when they refused to give us COF's without having a good license number, I ran without one for over a year. No rego either.

LTNZ said because I do low kms, dont carry goods and have a lightish truck I didnt need to do the exam, but then when it came to getting an exemption they wouldnt give me one. Took a year to sort out

I ended up having to do (trying to remember now) an exam than was like 2 hours and off ALL the questions only 2 REMOTELY related to what I do. But they got there quite a few hundred in "processing" fees and made me buy a heap of expensive literature that will never again be looked at and gave cause to drive without COF and Reg for over a year.

But its okay, I just charge my clients more, because THEY always have more money......right?

[CookMySock]

LTNZ said because I do low kms, dont carry goods and have a lightish truck..Hehe, you don't carry goods for hire or reward but you need a goods and services license. :weird:

Sounds like you need a lawyer. I'd tell them to stick it. Yet another example of the govt manipulating circumstances for their financial benefit.

Steve

[Timber020]

Hehe, you don't carry goods for hire or reward but you need a goods and services license. :weird:

Sounds like you need a lawyer. I'd tell them to stick it. Yet another example of the govt manipulating circumstances for their financial benefit.

Steve

Yeah, pay a lawyer a grand for them to not be able to get me off paying $400 because there lawyer who gets paid 2 grand by the LTNZ knows the job better.


I pay 1400, and two lawyers pat each other on the wallet on there way out.

The "processing" fee is such a fucking rort.