GP **SPOILER***

[sAsLEX]

What a great first race, rossi brilliant win on the last corner, gibby turned in on him I reckon not rossi's fault.

The commentators mentioned they saw rossis foot come off the peg, but he did that most laps coming in to the last corner, will have to check in the morning if the results stand

1. rossi
2. gibby
3.melandri

[sAsLEX]

And Sete hurt his arm so much bashing in to rossi that he couldn't play with his champagne as he had thrown all his toys from the cot!!

[gav]

The result stands
http://images.motogp.com/multimedia2/337/337403.jpg
Gotta say I'm pretty suprised, looked too me that Rossi ran way way deep into that last corner and forced Gibernau even wider and into the gravel. As the commentators said last year, Tamada did the same to Gibernau at Motegi for second place and was excluded from the results. Wheres the consistency? Can't believe that the Movistar team didnt lodge an appeal, might as well hand the trophy to Rossi now, if they're just going to roll over on something like this :confused:

[Motu]

Exciting stuff waiting for Rossi to pounce,and then he did!! From the overhead shot you can see sete turn into Rossi at corner entry and they hit,it's after that Rossi takes him wide - did it upset Rossi's line or did he punish Sete?

Colin Edwards 9th in his first race with Yamaha,what you might expect,but Rossi won his first race on a Yamaha,then won the Championship with it.Rossi has another enemy...does he do this on purpose? I don't think so,he seems such a happy guy.

[sAsLEX]

Exciting stuff waiting for Rossi to pounce,and then he did!! From the overhead shot you can see sete turn into Rossi at corner entry and they hit,it's after that Rossi takes him wide - did it upset Rossi's line or did he punish Sete?

Colin Edwards 9th in his first race with Yamaha,what you might expect,but Rossi won his first race on a Yamaha,then won the Championship with it.Rossi has another enemy...does he do this on purpose? I don't think so,he seems such a happy guy.

the onboard from setes bike looking back shows that as well, you can clearly see rossis bike in the picture and then sete just turns in hard and fast straight in to rossi

[Deano]

Gotta say I'm pretty suprised, looked too me that Rossi ran way way deep into that last corner and forced Gibernau even wider and into the gravel. As the commentators said last year, Tamada did the same to Gibernau at Motegi for second place and was excluded from the results. Wheres the consistency? Can't believe that the Movistar team didnt lodge an appeal, might as well hand the trophy to Rossi now, if they're just going to roll over on something like this :confused:

Have to say I agree with Gav on this one.

Sete was simply 'turning in' as said, on his race line. Rossi appeared to me to have gone in too hard, trying to stuff it up the inside of Sete and get past at all costs. Sete was in front when he got hit from the side/behind.

Whats with the foot off the peg thing ? Looked to me like Rossi wasn't in control, hence rode into Sete.

[NordieBoy]

Go Troy! :ride: :drinknsin

[Fart]

Arrhhhh... I miss the race. Fell asleep waiting and girlfriend turn off the TV. Woke up and it was morning. Will they replay the motogp?

[v.ros`]

hey was this race on Sky sports..?? argh missed it.

wat time do they usually come..sundar mornings or monday mornings.?

[vifferman]

Yeah, I missed it too; remembered it was on, then forgot to tape it. :doh:
Must've been quite exciting.

I liked this version of the race report:

http://www.rossifumi.nl/vale/news.asp?id=59

[James Deuce]

Go Troy! :ride: :drinknsin
Yes indeedly!

Both Camel's infront of the aresehol.. err sorry, sole Repsol Honda left running.

NIcky was very impressive early on though.

Poor old Casey Stoner too. Going REALLY well.

[sAsLEX]

Have to say I agree with Gav on this one.

Sete was simply 'turning in' as said, on his race line. Rossi appeared to me to have gone in too hard, trying to stuff it up the inside of Sete and get past at all costs. Sete was in front when he got hit from the side/behind.

Whats with the foot off the peg thing ? Looked to me like Rossi wasn't in control, hence rode into Sete.

if you watched to whole race carefully you would of seen that rossi took that corner with his foot hanging off the peg like that most time the camera was on him him for the last corner, and from the onboard shot from setes bike you can see him drop it right in on top of rossi hard, which would of caused him to sit it up and run sete off the track!

[Deano]

if you watched to whole race carefully you would of seen that rossi took that corner with his foot hanging off the peg like that most time the camera was on him him for the last corner, and from the onboard shot from setes bike you can see him drop it right in on top of rossi hard, which would of caused him to sit it up and run sete off the track!

Pretty bizarre to take your foot off the peg for a corner don't you think ?

Anyone got any idea why he does it ?

It appeared to me that both riders went into that corner wanting the same piece of track, but Sete was in front and Rossi would have almost certainly been on a line that would have run himself wide - albeit for some Honda assisted braking.

I would have liked to see the Movistar Team lodge an appeal so the officials could decide on it.

[sAsLEX]

Pretty bizarre to take your foot off the peg for a corner don't you think ?

Anyone got any idea why he does it ?

It appeared to me that both riders went into that corner wanting the same piece of track, but Sete was in front and Rossi would have almost certainly been on a line that would have run himself wide - albeit for some Honda assisted braking.

I would have liked to see the Movistar Team lodge an appeal so the officials could decide on it.

yeah i noticed on one lap early in the race and thought he had fucked it up but he kept doing it one quite a few occasions, i dont know wether his foot comes off or just he just cocks it out with his toes on the edge of the peg, ok this pic shows it kinda off, plus it was his second bike

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9220

but it also shows sete turning in to rossi and rossi's line not lloking too bad, maybe a bit hot........

[Motu]

Rossi had been running wide on corners he was too hot on all race,Sete did a couple of repasses on Rossi when he did it - so Sete knew this was a problem Rossi had...a smart racer would of let Rossi take the corner,cut to the inside and retake the lead at the exit,Sete had a point to prove...and didn't make it.If the roles were reversed how would Rossi take it? He's too cool to spit the dummy...he knows 50% of the racing is off track,advantage Rossi....

[James Deuce]

Rossi had been running wide on corners he was too hot on all race,Sete did a couple of repasses on Rossi when he did it - so Sete knew this was a problem Rossi had...a smart racer would of let Rossi take the corner,cut to the inside and retake the lead at the exit,Sete had a point to prove...and didn't make it.If the roles were reversed how would Rossi take it? He's too cool to spit the dummy...he knows 50% of the racing is off track,advantage Rossi....

Nice! Exactly what I was thinking. The snow job on "Gibbernow's" confidence just started.

[Fart]

Can someone burn that Spain race on DVD for me? I will pay for the DVD cost. I am kicking myself for missing it. :angry2:

[Racey Rider]

Sete was simply 'turning in' as said, on his race line. Rossi appeared to me to have gone in too hard, trying to stuff it up the inside of Sete and get past at all costs. Sete was in front when he got hit from the side/behind.


Yes Rossi went in hard. But thats what you get in the last corner of Racing.
Rossi's line was ok,,(slow motion replay), Seta didn't like the idea of being taken again on the last corner,, so turn in on him to Make an Incident of it!

GO ROSSI :2thumbsup

[Gremlin]

:thud: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:

here I was thinking the races were on sky, and I have now just found out from those pics that it was on prime... :angry2:

I was even watching minority report at the time, so I would have at least taped it... :confused2

[DEATH_INC.]

Rossi's a tosser,gibernau had him beat.
He came in way too tight,he was never gonna make the turn.

[Motu]

Rossi's a tosser,gibernau had him beat.
He came in way too tight,he was never gonna make the turn.
If you knew that,why didn't Sete - he was there for one reason only,to block Rossi...and it didn't work...he could of put Rossi into a low side and won,but didn't.Just a racing incident between 2 of the best riders in the world,it could of gone either way,they both know that.

[Racey Rider]

He came in way too tight,he was never gonna make the turn.

Gutts'ist move I ever saw.

He can be my wing man Anytime!! :niceone:

[DEATH_INC.]

Stupidest move I ever saw,could have put them both out for the season in the first race.Rossi doesn't need to do that shit to win,he's proved that.If he's gonna play that way for the rest of the season,it's gonna be messy....

[James Deuce]

Stupidest move I ever saw,could have put them both out for the season in the first race.Rossi doesn't need to do that shit to win,he's proved that.If he's gonna play that way for the rest of the season,it's gonna be messy....
He only has to do it a couple of times early on and then Sete does it all by himself.

[TwoSeven]

If anyone has ever watched club racing at brands you'll know that druids is the corner where a lot of that kind of argy bargy goes on. Its was quite common in the 600 class for riders to cut in on the inside and leave the turn late so the outer rider runs off.


I think rossi went in a little hot, but I got the impression that Gibernau tried to put the old shoulder lean on him and he responded with the old up and under lift.

There is a pretty good shot of rossi's clip-on digging into gibernau's arm. Must have hurt a bit.

[loosebruce]

As much as i like Rossi, he was in no doubt too hot into that corner. Foot off the peg, he would've been taking it off after shifting gear to set his foot higher up on the peg, that foot off moment was a oh fuck way too hot, foot off moment, no if's or buts about it. They were both lucky not to go down, Sete even luckier to still get second.
These two (Rossi & Gibs) havn't been to gooder buddies since the Qatar incident last year. As you can imagine Gibs wasn't too impressed with the move, why should he be, but it stands. Gibs should've won and had Rossi beaten in my books.

I'm impressed by Gibs statement about the incident as follows:

Speaking after the race Gibernau said, “We set a really fast pace throughout the race and in the end I slowed down a little to see where Valentino’s strong points were. We pressured each other hard and in the end I have the peace of mind that I did everything I could and that in general we’re already at a high level at the first race.

“It’s going to be a long and hard championship. I don’t want such a great race to be reduced to what happened in the final corner. I love this sport and I don’t want to get involved in politics, I just want to stay strong and calm and remain focused on our dream. I led the race from the start, I wanted to have a look at Rossi’s pace and I think it was the right strategy. We have to keep going now.”

From MotoGP.com

Well done to Gibs for being reasonably level headed about it. Whats done is done lets move on. Really it would've been fair to punish Rossi in some way, i don't think Gibs would've seen him coming, he should've expected it and moved over to cover the line, but hey what the fuck do i know do you see me on an RCV???

Here's to a long fantastic season, of both MotoGP and Superbikes :drinknsin

[Shawn]

Can any1 pls get me a copy on tape, DVD, CD , doesn’t matter I will pay for it or a 6 pack…whatever…cheers :2thumbsup

[pritch]

Rossi has another enemy...does he do this on purpose? I don't think so,he seems such a happy guy.

The commentators mentioned that Gibernau and Rossi have been playing "No speaks" since that protest about Rossi's crew prepping the start position in the desert last year. So there was no love lost there anyway. I did note though that this didn't stop Gibernau having a few words with Rossi immediately following the race.

I'm still wondering about that thing Rossi did with his foot...

One of the most interesting things about the whole commentary was the mention that HRC has a new head man. The guy who was considered responsible for Rossi's departure seems to have been replaced.

[k14]

Nah, rossi was well in his rights to go up there. Sete should have closed the door and pushed rossi to the outside then he would have won. The foot off the peg thing was just the normal thing rossi was doing. Yeah he did go in hot but sete could have still won the race if he had used his head. Also I think the reason why rossi kept running wide is because when sete touched he pushed rossi's brake off and caused rossi to go a bit wide.

I think it can all be summed up as a racing incident, bring on estoril!!!

[Racey Rider]

Good call K14.

All I know is Rossi has set a precedent that I can use in the next race I'm in.

Doesn't have to look pretty,,, Just has to work!! :niceone:

[erik]

Sounds a lot like the Lance Lowe Tony Rees incident at Paeroa

That's what I was thinking.
Well, actually my initial reaction was that Rossi was at fault. But now you've all got me confused!

I've captured the 3 races off of prime and I'll encode them as .avi's (compressed with XviD). They're captured at 640x480 pixels and are pretty good quality, I'll have to wait and see what size they turn out, but it's possible I'll be able to fit all 3 on a cd.

For anyone that wants to see the corner footage, check the attachment. It's low resolution and quite highly compressed, but quite viewable. (when I encode the whole race, it'll be much better quality).

[Ghost Lemur]

My personal feelings on this are Rossi has Sete headfucked. He always has. The prime example of this is when they were on the podium and Rossi (grinning) handed out his hand to Sete. Sete paused for the longest time, didn't want to shake with Rossi, and then realised he had no choice and reluctantly shook his hand.

And that sums up the on and off track competition between the two, no matter where they each are in relation to the other. Rossi calls the shots. I really don't think, as good a rider as Sete is, and as good as his bike may be, he does not have the mental fortitude to really beat Rossi.

Rossi is very, very much like Schummacher. If you remove the slight differences in their personalities as being down to one's an Italian, and one's a German. But they're both the sort of athletes who have a talent that goes beyond words. They both have the on and off track tacticle abilities second to none. And neither is shy of pushing boundries. Some of you F1 fans will remember the Shummie/Dammon Hill incident.

Another way of describing the Rossi/Sete relationship is, I bet Rossi seldom thinks about Sete. I also think Sete can't stop thinking about Rossi, and his sleep is possessed by him.

[TonyB]

This isn't just a random incident. Rossi has a history of "outbraking himself" while trying to overtake, blocking the other riders line and conviniently running him off the track. After watching that incident I couldn't believe that Rossi had the gall to wheelie away and punch the air in victory.

That said, Sete left the door wide open. I couldn't believe that he didn't take a more defensive line. But then watching Rossi's bike I reckon if Gibernau had taken a defensive line he would've been hit hard from behind. I guess Gibernau just lost his cool, cause he could've let Rossi go under him and run wide, then just turn it in, apex late and ride away.

[Lou Girardin]

Rossi had the line, Gibernau turned in on him. If Rossi was too hot Gibernau should have crossed under him on the exit. Unless MotoGP has different rules from the rest of motorsport, Gibernau was in the wrong.
Then to sulk and hold his widdy, biddy sore arm, he's going to be known as Sister Gibernau from now on.

[onearmedbandit]

Rossi had the line, Gibernau turned in on him. If Rossi was too hot Gibernau should have crossed under him on the exit. Unless MotoGP has different rules from the rest of motorsport, Gibernau was in the wrong.
Then to sulk and hold his widdy, biddy sore arm, he's going to be known as Sister Gibernau from now on.

Muhahahaha!!! :lol:

And in my opinion, Sete knows how Rossi attacks and left the door open. Rossi, being Rossi, came in hard on a tight line and was even with Sete's bike if not slightly in front before Sete turned in on him. Rossi is the man. IMMHO.

[v.ros`]

:thud: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:

here I was thinking the races were on sky, and I have now just found out from those pics that it was on prime... :angry2:

I was even watching minority report at the time, so I would have at least taped it... :confused2


OMG were those races live on PRIME TV?

[FEINT]

Originally Posted by Gremlin


here I was thinking the races were on sky, and I have now just found out from those pics that it was on prime...

I was even watching minority report at the time, so I would have at least taped it...




OMG were those races live on PRIME TV?

They were on Sunday night at 11:30.

There is Portugal coming up on Monday at 11:30 on PRIME (Channel 5). :niceone:

[erik]

I've got the main motogp race encoded. Not sure if I'll bother with the 250s and 125s.
The finished avi is 701MB and just fits on a single CD. It's 640x480 resolution.
But I'm also having a go at making a 384x288 350MB file, the tv capture isn't particularly sharp, and it doesn't look much worse watching the lower resolution version fullscreen.
Anyway, if anyone wants a copy, they can download either version off me over dc++, just pm me and I'll get on it (I'm not currently online). Or we can arrange for you to get it on CD for the cost of the CD and postage (if it's posted).
Or take a look in gav's thread here: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=10854
where you can download a .wmv version that is slightly worse quality (but smaller filesize).

[gav]

I ended up watching the Jerez live on my computer on the MotoGP website. (I've paid for a subscription, about $55NZD for the season). Primes coverage was delayed about half an hour as they were still showing the 250's at 12.10 when the lights changed. Interesting though as even the live feed must be delayed slightly as you have all sorts of options on the website, I had a live timing screen open as well to see how the guys lower done were doing. When Hayden crashed out he disappeared off the timing chart but it was a good 5 minutes before it showed on the web coverage, very bizarre, as I thought maybe his tronsponder or something packed up, as he was still lapping. Don't think I'll bother doing it again as just way to confusing esp at that time of night :killingme